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Post #5881 · Posted at 2015-04-30 08:28:35pm 10.3 years ago

Offline SM MaxX
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Getting hype over how unfun and bullshit a chart will be sounds like the most ass backwards thing ever. The stepmania community has been doing it for over a decade, I don't see why it makes it so special if konami does it.
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Post #5882 · Posted at 2015-04-30 08:39:00pm 10.3 years ago

Offline MRace2010
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Getting hype over how unfun and bullshit a chart will be sounds like the most ass backwards thing ever. The stepmania community has been doing it for over a decade, I don't see why it makes it so special if konami does it.

I think the hype comes from the difficulty. After all whoever tries to complete something hard will make some people gather around him to watch. It has its fashion.

So yeah, probably everyone want a 20 so that they can see someone complete that thing and just awe at their ability. It happened back when MAX 300 was the hardest song to pass and when ITG charts came and even with the original Paranoia I think. I don't really see a different reason
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Post #5883 · Posted at 2015-04-30 08:47:18pm 10.3 years ago

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The only reason I want to see a 20 is so that we can see how Konami actually pulls it off. I honestly believe that they will have to add the 48th notes at the beginning, add 12th or 16th clusters at 400+ bpm (which we might be expecting), step-jumps, and some other ridiculous patterns taken from VDChallenge and PRChallenge.

Also, they increased the scale from 1-10 to 1-20 and we've only seen 19s (which yes, are very crappy and cheap charts), but can you really say that you don't want to see what the ungodly 20-footer OT"P"Challenge will look like?
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Post #5884 · Posted at 2015-04-30 09:44:02pm 10.3 years ago

Offline darkanine
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I know we haven't heard all of the song yet. But in the song Paranoia Revolution, there are plenty of fast rhythms at the very start. Valkyrie Dimension also has fast rhythms after 30 seconds or so. 40 seconds into OT"P" and there are hardly any audible fast rhythms. It is hard to be sure though because we don't have a line out.

Anyway, in order for OT"P" to be a 20, the chart would have to be flooded with 16th steps after the stop. Then there would have to be some crazy speedup with super fast streams or something like that. But it is possible.

Post #5885 · Posted at 2015-05-01 12:39:41am 10.3 years ago

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I could scour the forum for it, but I'm going to say what I've been saying ever since the X-scale was introduced:

The first 20-footer will be a marathon-type song (somewhere around 3 to 4 minutes long). Trying to make a 20-footer in under 2 minutes would just be a complete clusterfuck of arrows, unless that's what you guys want it to be.

Post #5886 · Posted at 2015-05-01 01:31:08am 10.3 years ago

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I could scour the forum for it, but I'm going to say what I've been saying ever since the X-scale was introduced:

The first 20-footer will be a marathon-type song (somewhere around 3 to 4 minutes long). Trying to make a 20-footer in under 2 minutes would just be a complete clusterfuck of arrows, unless that's what you guys want it to be.

That's probably what it is going to end up being. I'm not looking for a GOOD stepchart at all, I just want to see what they could possibly do in 2 minutes to make a 20-footer.
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Post #5887 · Posted at 2015-05-01 01:41:11am 10.3 years ago

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Quote: hypnoticmarten77
Quote: Max
I could scour the forum for it, but I'm going to say what I've been saying ever since the X-scale was introduced:

The first 20-footer will be a marathon-type song (somewhere around 3 to 4 minutes long). Trying to make a 20-footer in under 2 minutes would just be a complete clusterfuck of arrows, unless that's what you guys want it to be.

That's probably what it is going to end up being. I'm not looking for a GOOD stepchart at all, I just want to see what they could possibly do in 2 minutes to make a 20-footer.

Disclaimer: I think that Paranoia Revolution Challenge is a great chart. While it is definitely a cluster, most of the patterns are realistic. Watching FEFEMZ play it really made me appreciate it more. Valkyrie DImension Challenge, in my opinion, wouldn't be too bad without the random arrow stream in the speedup.

That being said, there are very few songs in DDR that I could imagine being a 20 and still aligning with the music. The only song I could imagine doing it well would be GAIA.

Post #5888 · Posted at 2015-05-01 01:52:33am 10.3 years ago

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Quote: hypnoticmarten77
Quote: Max
I could scour the forum for it, but I'm going to say what I've been saying ever since the X-scale was introduced:

The first 20-footer will be a marathon-type song (somewhere around 3 to 4 minutes long). Trying to make a 20-footer in under 2 minutes would just be a complete clusterfuck of arrows, unless that's what you guys want it to be.

That's probably what it is going to end up being. I'm not looking for a GOOD stepchart at all, I just want to see what they could possibly do in 2 minutes to make a 20-footer.

250bpm song with lots of streams. Or, in Bemani's case, fuckton of dumb crossovers, maybe a couple fooswitches, and jumps/ambiguous double steps everywhere.

Post #5889 · Posted at 2015-05-01 05:23:04am 10.3 years ago

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If someone ever PFC'd a 20-footer, instead of being called the best DDR player ever, they will simply become a being of pure energy, and know what the true meaning of life is. ;P

Post #5890 · Posted at 2015-05-01 07:11:22am 10.3 years ago

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Post #5891 · Posted at 2015-05-01 08:40:49am 10.3 years ago

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Well that take a lot of pressure off. I'm going to play now and I'll try the beginner chart to try and make it to the inevitable 400 bpm speed up. With a beginner chart, it is conceivable to read on 1.75 and get through it all. Anyways, I could talk about what ifs all day but I think it is better to go out and just try it.
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Post #5892 · Posted at 2015-05-01 10:51:41am 10.3 years ago

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Post #5893 · Posted at 2015-05-01 12:30:30pm 10.3 years ago

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I'm done today.

I tried Max. Difficult and it just was just too hard playing on Wave without knowing that chart.

I almost left the arcade early, I was feeling like shit today but I decided to try the basic chart anyways before leaving.

I surprised myself by beating the record by quite a bit.


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Post #5894 · Posted at 2015-05-01 12:31:50pm 10.3 years ago

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I see that new video up Dr. D! Awesome job, I knew you'd be the one to get this far in Over the Period! It was either gonna be you or FEFEMZ.
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Post #5895 · Posted at 2015-05-01 12:46:56pm 10.3 years ago

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I plan to start using an audio line out next time I play so hopefully someone could make a partial sim file with it assuming I make it this far again.

I will keep doing what I've been doing. Rewatch my video to the part I failed and learn how to pass it on my next attempt. I don't know how I've managed to do it this long but if my luck holds out, we'll see the 400 BPM section soon enough. At least the current gimmick is easy to learn and clear. I'm just afraid the next few freezes will follow suit. I better just keep on tempo and hit all 4 arrows next time.
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Post #5896 · Posted at 2015-05-01 12:49:33pm 10.3 years ago

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I had a hunch that they'd do a gimmick similar to this sometime:

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Post #5897 · Posted at 2015-05-01 01:06:59pm 10.3 years ago

Offline darkanine
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Well there are some 16ths in the song now, so now I don't know what to expect in the harder charts.

Post #5898 · Posted at 2015-05-01 01:13:13pm 10.3 years ago

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Want a first 20 footer in history? Easy. Re rate Para Revo CDP from 19 to 20. Since it looks & feel like a 20 to me all along. And do note that no one managed to AA it yet.
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Post #5899 · Posted at 2015-05-01 02:05:45pm 10.3 years ago

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Wow, that speed-up in OTP is so cruel. Amazing work Dr.D, I have no idea how you do it!
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Post #5900 · Posted at 2015-05-01 03:13:54pm 10.3 years ago

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I'm digging those funky beats. Nice attempt Dr. D! Is it just me or does the name "Over The "Period"" sounds so sexual.
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