DanceDanceRevolution (AC) (Japan)

And another thing....since the scale has been increased to 20 since DDR X, it's completely possible for a 20 to show up. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but every every rating scale in every current and active BEMANI game has had at least one song be at the scales' maximum limit and it's bound to happen once again for DDR (I say "once again" since the scale started at 8, then 9, then 10). So quite frankly, you people that continue to complain about "not wanting a 20" really need to just grow up and get over it. Try utilizing common sense and accept the possibility of one showing up, and if it does and you can't clear it? Too bad for you. The incessant complaining from this community is so pathetic.

thanks for the very helpful advice to grow up and get a grip. I'm so glad to be able to play 19s and enjoy them so much.

i so hope you guys can have fun and play those 20s when they come out, whenever that is. I'll just have fun with my 15-18, thanks. it's not that i can't clear them. i can, but frankly, i don't feel any fun playing them. so that's that.

(also afaik only ftt and maybe danceevo has a sort of ceiling. all the others end at arbitrary numbers, such as 12, 50, 9.99, 16, 19/20 etc)

my point here is that there's only a few 19s, and all of them are extremely dense and hard. fun is indeed subjective, but it's hard to judge since we only have 2 19s on single. i only extrapolated from the width of each difficulty level and frankly it seems like 19s have a lot to cover, hence my opinion about 20s. but unfortunately, no one really wants to argue about why there should be 20s other than "it's the limit in DDR X" (which since X2 isn't really shown anymore since they just write the number). instead i just get "get a grip, grow up, stop incessantly complaining, get better". so yeah

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I don't know about you all, but it's not so much of a 20 I'd like...

It's a goddamn actual release I'd like so I can actually play all of this new content we've seen but not played on an official release since late 2011. I went to a newly-opened arcade in the Tulsa area and yet another in the OKC area just recently and both locations have a Pump it Up Prime. Clearly they still want to sink money into brand new cabs, so this "not enough demand" is a moot point.

Just release DDR on Steam already.

you must have missed my post saying "this is an encore only song for now, it has a difficult chart rated 15, barely anyone has even hit the first step and the entire song requires pfcing". so frankly this is the perfect song to give a 20 chart (which will probably be just a hard 19 overrated, knowing konami)

if a 20 bothers you that much... don't play it??

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I'm just gonna leave this here

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There's a couple of things called "Basic" and "Difficult", you guys should use them sometime. //:eyes:

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I like the system where the expert rating gets harder (starts at least 14) so that either basic or difficult can be played. Most players are just biased to play in certain difficulties like expert or challenge only, even if its difficulty is in 9 to 11, thus leaving basic and difficult steps unplayable.

From 10am tomorrow, you can obtain orbs by playing the RDi songs on BASIC difficulty.

Link to any articles, tweets, videos or pictures of this announcement? Would like to see proof of this. (Sorry if I seem paranoid, but unless I see an official statement of some kind I won't trust what someone outside the company just says)

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It's from the Bemana podcast released an hour ago.

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https://twitter.com/adamasstokhorst/status/593758795743899648

i wonder if this means that you can play over the period beginner?

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I don't see why not.

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There is absolutely no way that OT"P" could get a 20 chart. There is hardly any 16th rhythms in the song. I don't even know how they would manage to make an 18. But we'll see.

Imagine if they suddenly decide to rescale everything up slightly like they did with GITADORA, and the current 19s become 20s.

Also, note the (single) difficulty progression in versions past:

First 8 (12): DDR (Internet Ranking)
First 9 (13): DDR 3rdMIX
First 10 (15): DDRMAX
First 10 (16): DDRMAX2
First 10 (17): SN
First 10 (18): SN
First 19: X2

Of course, by the time we had our first Single 19 we already had at least a dozen 18s on Single. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

>implying Konami won't fill the screen with bitch like they've done with the 19s and most 18s.
Also, we don't even know what the full song sounds like yet, so I don't think we can make that judgment. Only thing we can judge by is the groove radars for the already available difficulties. And judging by the massive Chaos found on Light and Standard, I dare say a 20 is viable. Unlikely, but viable.

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Nobody has even heard the entire song yet, how would you even know?

Now that I think about it again you might actually be true. It's true that we don't know the rest but still it doesn't really look like the first part of OTP will be very hard right away in Challenge. The first part with the slowdown doesn't seem very steppable (and stepping the harps would be dumb) and the 2nd part with the 200bpm gives out some parts where it could be pretty difficult (the rise) but then it shouldn't be much of a hustle, probably a 18 or something.

It wouldn't mean anything but considering VD got very hard pretty damn fast there's no way OTP could be a 20 because of that first part. At least it can be a 19

(and now let's face it: if the challenge chart was a 20 it would need a 12th crossover hurricane stream for 64 beats at 400 bpm. This will never happen unless KONAMI takes inspiration from Dash Hopes 3...)

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@darkanine: We haven't seen (or heard) the fastest part of the song yet.

@MRace2010: Timing a 48th note stream to the harps in the intro sounds like exactly the kind of thing Konami would do to make it 19/20-level. Just look at what they did to the 480 BPM stream in the beginning of Valkyrie dimension S-, which is a simple hold on every other difficulty (including D-). Come to think of it, every 19 so far has introduced some kind of chart gimmick not seen before in any other chart: Valkyrie has a stream a solid ~10% faster than any other stream ever seen before, ParaRevo has 16ths at 360 BPM, and Possession D- has HDV-style crossovers that are twice as wide. Who's to say OT"P"'s gimmick won't simply be a stream of triplets that's twice as compressed as bag? Then factor in the speed of the rest of the song and the opening basically would force everyone to read the equivalent of bag 1x. And slower.

I will never understand what makes 20 such a magical number for everyone to want despite that they'd never ever make anything remotely close to a reasonable or fun chart out of it.

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Simple: it's the highest number from the original scale change, it's a number we've never seen before, and we just want to see what kind of bullsh*t Konami pulls off next. That's reason enough for most people. I highly doubt anyone anticipating a 20 is honestly expecting a good chart. But a chart doesn't need to be good to be hyped.