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Post #5741 · Posted at 2009-05-25 03:49:33am 16.2 years ago

Offline Tyma
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It just seems to be the vocalists that have gone away, who I think have been properly replaced (Hello Alison Wade and TAYA <3).

Don't forget Jun, Riyu, Yoma, all the other BeForU lovelies Puppy Face I also like Mary Elizabeth McGlynn, mostly because her songs have really good lyrics.

Is Julia Frost still with Konami?

She didn't work for Konami. She's one of those english-speaking singers living in Japan who were brought in for one song, whenever they wanted someone with her style of vocals.

Post #5742 · Posted at 2009-05-25 04:34:45am 16.2 years ago

Offline AceJay
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"bemanistyle♪"
Quote: Tyma
Has anyone actually played it on a CRT monitor, to see if the timing window is noticably different?

Seemed much tighter to me at the Jersey Gardens Loctest.

Post #5743 · Posted at 2009-05-25 06:04:25am 16.2 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
Top 30 songs on Japanese e-amuse DDR machines~

Thanks to Mieya for the ranking

1 On The Break/Darwin
2 零 - ZERO -/TERRA
3 SABER WING/TAG
4 MAX 300/Ω
5 華爛漫 -Flowers-/TERRA
6 SUNKiSS DROP/jun with Alison
7 Butterfly(2008 X-edit)/SMILE.dk
8 A Geisha’s Dream/NAOKI feat.SMiLE.dk
9 Trickster/水樹奈々
10 Pluto Relinquish/2MB
11 SABER WING(AKIRA ISHIHARA Headshot mix)/TAG
12 Xepher/Tatsh
13 DoLL/TERRA
14 DUB-I-DUB(2008 X-edit)/ME&MY
15 Waiting 4 u/DDT
16 ポリリズム/Pink Lemonade
17 TRUE LOVE/jun feat. Schanita
18 Boys(2008 X-edit)/SMILE.dk
19 INTO YOUR HEART (Ruffage remix)/NAOKI feat.YASMINE
20 Blind Justice ~Torn souls, Hurt Faiths ~/Zektbach
21 DYNAMITE RAVE("AIR" Special)/NAOKI
22 Koko Soko/SMILE.dk
23 will/NAOKI
24 Pluto/Black∞Hole
25 Fascination MAXX/100-200-400
26 CHAOS/DE-SIRE retunes
27 スキ☆メロ/小倉優子
28 Chance and Dice/日本少年
29 MAX 300 (Super-Max-Me Mix)/Jondi & Spesh
30 チカラ/BeForU

TERRA remains pretty popular, with three of their songs appearing in the top 30 songs. The Japanese licenses also remain fairly popular, three of the five have been in the top 30 since its release. Likewise, all of SMiLE.dk's new songs have been in the top 30 since its release as well.

Post #5744 · Posted at 2009-05-25 07:25:58am 16.2 years ago

Offline stelisevil
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Just checked BEMANIwiki, looks like I was mistaken on the requirements. Difficulties need to add up to 40 including FINAL STAGE to get those EXTRA STAGE songs on machines with 3 songs per credit set.

MAX 300 (15) + TRIP MACHINE PhoeniX (15) + On The Break (13) = 43, so therefore you could get the AKIRA ISHIHARA remix.

And how did you get the 5thMIX ENCORE EXTRA STAGE from playing the 4thMIX EXTRA STAGE?

Yah, my bad... Whichever the 5th mix Paranoia is... they all sound the same to me.

I played those 3 songs since i was under the impression the difficulties needed to add up to 43. 40 seems far more manageable.

Post #5745 · Posted at 2009-05-25 09:42:12am 16.2 years ago

Offline Daiz
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About all these songs being dropped, did Naoki just compose the instrumentals and not write the lyrics? I was under the assumption that he wrote the songs too and thus, the lyrics would not have to be changed. What are we to do when Paula Terry's stuff leaves? Still In My Heart, Passion of Love, Burnin' the Floor, Can't Stop Fallin' in Love, Broken My Heart, so many classics will get axed ;_;

Post #5746 · Posted at 2009-05-25 09:59:24am 16.2 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
On the Pop'n page for "will", "shio" makes an interesting comment:

"I happened to have worked close to where DDR Hottest Party was made, so I was able to sneak a few peeks at it during its production. And it was on a next-generation console too! I want one~

By the way, U1, I haven't forgotten your promise to me when you said "I'll make a dark remix of it that would be inappropriate for Pop'n Music"! I know you're very busy these days, but I still believe in that promise!

-shio"



Post #5747 · Posted at 2009-05-25 10:13:41am 16.2 years ago

Offline ZaPi
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"Crazed At Traffic."
I've played the one in Crestwood, Illinois and Elizabeth, New Jersey.

But I haven't got the chance to go to California to try that one out, but for now the LED on the Illinois one,
is horrible.
The New Jersey one is better.



and It's kind of sad that End Of The Century is getting deleted from the DDR X Arcade versions.

"The life drain when you miss an arrow is the same from 1st STAGE all the way to FINAL STAGE. Or in other words, the penalty for missing an arrow is the same in all stages up to FINAL STAGE."

That report of the Life drain for the one in New Jersey is not true.
Unless they changed it, It's been almost 4 weeks since I went there.
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Post #5748 · Posted at 2009-05-25 10:14:01am 16.2 years ago

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Post #5749 · Posted at 2009-05-25 10:21:03am 16.2 years ago

Offline Tyma
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About all these songs being dropped, did Naoki just compose the instrumentals and not write the lyrics? I was under the assumption that he wrote the songs too and thus, the lyrics would not have to be changed. What are we to do when Paula Terry's stuff leaves? Still In My Heart, Passion of Love, Burnin' the Floor, Can't Stop Fallin' in Love, Broken My Heart, so many classics will get axed ;_;

We have no idea how the contracts work, which songs are going to be removed, or why they're being removed.

The only thing we know is that the following things happened.

* Lots of BeForYou songs are re-recorded with new vocals and lyrics
* Most BeForYou songs are removed from DDR games

* Lots of Argie Phine songs are re-recorded with new vocals and lyrics
* Most Argie Phine songs are removed from DDR games

* Lots of Londell Hicks songs are re-recorded with new vocals and lyrics
* Most Londell Hicks songs are removed from DDR games

The latter had their songs removed exactly 10 years after they were published. The BeForYou songs were recorded with new vocalists over 4 years ago, but never used until now.

It's all speculation, but the obvious signs point to the fact that Konami are no longer wishing (or able) to use work done by these artists, probably because the original contracts are so old that they've now run out.

There's no reason to assume that Paula Terry's songs will get dropped.

Post #5750 · Posted at 2009-05-25 11:15:56am 16.2 years ago

Offline EarthPluto
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Reg. 2009-01-19

"For Aiur~!"
Quote: Tyma
Quote: Daiz
About all these songs being dropped, did Naoki just compose the instrumentals and not write the lyrics? I was under the assumption that he wrote the songs too and thus, the lyrics would not have to be changed. What are we to do when Paula Terry's stuff leaves? Still In My Heart, Passion of Love, Burnin' the Floor, Can't Stop Fallin' in Love, Broken My Heart, so many classics will get axed ;_;

We have no idea how the contracts work, which songs are going to be removed, or why they're being removed.

The only thing we know is that the following things happened.

* Lots of BeForYou songs are re-recorded with new vocals and lyrics
* Most BeForYou songs are removed from DDR games

* Lots of Argie Phine songs are re-recorded with new vocals and lyrics
* Most Argie Phine songs are removed from DDR games

* Lots of Londell Hicks songs are re-recorded with new vocals and lyrics
* Most Londell Hicks songs are removed from DDR games

The latter had their songs removed exactly 10 years after they were published. The BeForYou songs were recorded with new vocalists over 4 years ago, but never used until now.

It's all speculation, but the obvious signs point to the fact that Konami are no longer wishing (or able) to use work done by these artists, probably because the original contracts are so old that they've now run out.

There's no reason to assume that Paula Terry's songs will get dropped.

Agree with you, Tyrna. ^^

But, Naoki still compose some non-instrumental songs.
Example like:
A Geisha's Dream, vocal by SMiLE.dk
will, vocal by frances maya.

Maybe the next vocalist who replace the Paula Terry's is frances maya.
That's my assumption. Very Happy

Post #5751 · Posted at 2009-05-25 11:19:42am 16.2 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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These removals may have prompted Konami's new stance on commissioned/KO songs. Apparently Commission artists actually sign the entire song over to Konami these days and retain pretty much 0 rights to the song. But this is just what I have heard.

Post #5752 · Posted at 2009-05-26 10:44:39am 16.2 years ago

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Some things to try, 1 of 3.

"Sunkiss {Heart} drop", "Raspberry {Heart} heart", and "Freeway shuffle" normally do not have Challenge steps but they do have. Here's what you do. Make sure you do this with plenty of time left on the timer.

Step A1. Make sure that the desired song before or after that has Challenge steps. If it does not, you need to change the way the list of songs are sorted in order for that song prior or next to that has Challenge steps. Highlight that song then select Expert. (For example. Highlight "Freeway shuffle". Sort list of songs by title or ABC. Highlight "Flight of the phoenix". Select Expert.)

Step A2. Step [Down arrow panel] two consecutive times, making sure that stepping [Down arrow panel] for the second time and pressing [Yellow right button] must be done simultaneously. If not, you have to do step A1 again.

Step A3. Press down [Start]. You can freely modify any options except "Challenge".


Some things to try, 2 of 3.

Doing the following will result in hang after closing the 2 rusty metal doors followed by machine restart. It is recommended that you do this on encore extra stage and no credits are pending. Make sure you do this with plenty of time left on the timer.

Step B1. Highlight "Dynamite rave". Select Challenge. Sort list of songs by title or ABC.

Step B2. Step [Up arrow panel] two consecutive times, making sure that stepping [Up arrow panel] for the second time and pressing [Yellow right button] must be done simultaneously. If not, you have to do step B1 again.

Step B3. Press [Start].


Some things to try, 3 of 3.

On encore extra stage, choose any song with shock arrows (For example, "Butterfly [2008 X-edit]".).
Select Challenge.
When you step on shock arrows, 1life on the gauge is not taken away.
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Dancer name in DDR, third mix: LAC
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Post #5753 · Posted at 2009-05-26 10:56:39am 16.2 years ago

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Quote: luigiacruz
"Sunkiss {Heart} drop", "Raspberry {Heart} heart", and "Freeway shuffle" normally do not have Challenge steps but they do have.
WTF are you talking about? Those three songs have their CHALLENGE steps freely accessible. No glitching necessary.

Post #5754 · Posted at 2009-05-26 10:56:50am 16.2 years ago

Offline Queen-Zukin
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"cold weather season♪"
Quote: luigiacruz

"Sunkiss {Heart} drop", "Raspberry {Heart} heart", and "Freeway shuffle" normally do not have Challenge steps but they do have.
their challenge steps are the prize chart from SN2 / normally no / now have yes
EDIT : too late X-X

Post #5755 · Posted at 2009-05-26 10:58:24am 16.2 years ago

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They can be unlocked through Enjoy Levels...

IIRC, Venus's are unlocked by default.

Post #5756 · Posted at 2009-05-26 10:59:48am 16.2 years ago

Offline luigi.a.cruz
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Exor,

Here in the Philippines, the two arcade machines of DDR X are in local mode. They are being updated manually.
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When I played DDR (For arcade) for the first time on September, 1999, its edition was first.
Dancer name in DDR, third mix: LAC
Dancer name in DDR MAX 1, DDR MAX 2, and DDR extreme: LACZ
Dancer name in DDR supernova 1 onwards: L A CRUZ

Post #5757 · Posted at 2009-05-26 11:02:07am 16.2 years ago

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They can be unlocked through Enjoy Levels...

IIRC, Venus's are unlocked by default.
I stand corrected. No DDR X AC (beta or otherwise) nearby means I only know as much as I know from people here.

Post #5758 · Posted at 2009-05-26 02:25:09pm 16.2 years ago

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""Le gasp!""
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I've played the one in Crestwood, Illinois and Elizabeth, New Jersey.

But I haven't got the chance to go to California to try that one out, but for now the LED on the Illinois one,
is horrible.
The New Jersey one is better.



and It's kind of sad that End Of The Century is getting deleted from the DDR X Arcade versions.

"The life drain when you miss an arrow is the same from 1st STAGE all the way to FINAL STAGE. Or in other words, the penalty for missing an arrow is the same in all stages up to FINAL STAGE."

That report of the Life drain for the one in New Jersey is not true.
Unless they changed it, It's been almost 4 weeks since I went there.

The machine at Jersey Gardens is actually decent? That's news to me. I'm just aware of the lag there, nothing else really though.

It's been ages since I've played there though since it's still in a relatively early beta version... Nothing really worth running back to. Neutral
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Post #5759 · Posted at 2009-05-26 06:41:42pm 16.2 years ago

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"Sunkiss {Heart} drop", "Raspberry {Heart} heart", and "Freeway shuffle" normally do not have Challenge steps but they do have.
WTF are you talking about? Those three songs have their CHALLENGE steps freely accessible. No glitching necessary.
Wrong. They are locked and must be unlocked.

Post #5760 · Posted at 2009-05-26 09:23:11pm 16.2 years ago

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Quote: al2k4
Quote: Exor
Quote: luigiacruz
"Sunkiss {Heart} drop", "Raspberry {Heart} heart", and "Freeway shuffle" normally do not have Challenge steps but they do have.
WTF are you talking about? Those three songs have their CHALLENGE steps freely accessible. No glitching necessary.
Wrong. They are locked and must be unlocked.
I stand corrected...I went under the assumption that, since Venus has its CHALLENGE steps available by default, the other three did so too.
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