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Post #5501 · Posted at 2017-10-28 02:33:29am 7.6 years ago

Offline AxelWasHere
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"No."
CANDY☆: Its shit.
KAKUMEI: The Intro is shit.
DanceDanceRevolution: Fun.
CHAOS: wtf?
TRIP MACHINE PheoniX: Fun
PARANOiA ~HADES~: Fun
Pluto: Boring as fuck
Pluto Relinquish: Fun as fuck
Horatio: Fuck CSP
on the bounce: boring as hell
Trigger: This song triggers me
roppongi EVOLVED: Ver C. is bae
Valkyrie dimension: Fun as hell
UNBELIEVABLE (Sparky Remix): wtf is this shit
NEPHILIM DELTA: eh.
SILVER☆DREAM: Like one of the worst songs in DDR.
Tohoku EVOLVED: eh.
LOVE IS THE POWER -Re: born-: wtf is this shit
MAX. (Period): Fun
Over The "Period": Fun.
Ace For Aces: Boring.
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Post #5502 · Posted at 2017-10-28 02:49:11am 7.6 years ago

Offline xXMokou98Xx
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you'll have to do better than that

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Post #5503 · Posted at 2017-10-28 02:50:56am 7.6 years ago

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Don't ever diss Unbelievable (Sparky Remix), it's the 2nd best jun boss song, next to SUPER SAMURAI.
I'll admit the original LOVE IS THE POWER is a bit better, because there aren't any weird drunk shouting in the middle of the song.

Post #5504 · Posted at 2017-10-28 02:59:29am 7.6 years ago

Offline HealingDMax300
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Speaking of AFA, isn't it about time they end the event and fully release it and Endymion? It's been months and no one's motivated to try to get further anymore.

Post #5505 · Posted at 2017-10-28 03:03:58am 7.6 years ago

Post #5506 · Posted at 2017-10-28 03:13:48am 7.6 years ago

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Trigger: This song triggers me

Post #5507 · Posted at 2017-10-28 04:57:39am 7.6 years ago

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Speaking of AFA, isn't it about time they end the event and fully release it and Endymion? It's been months and no one's motivated to try to get further anymore.

RINON'S ADVENTURE III started at July 13th, 2017. It is been 107 days since then.

We're getting at "okay, can something drop", but for reference, Over The 'Period' and EGOISM 440 from Replicant D-ignition comfortably sit at March 26th, 2015 to August 6th, 2015, a wait of 133 days, before they were fully released (and not even then, it would be another 140 days before the OT'P's challenge chart was revealed).
Total time from reveal to fully playable: 133 days, 273 for OT'P' Challenge.

For DDR X3 vs. 2ndMIX, PARANOiA Revolution was first available to play in 2ndMIX mode on June 20th, 2012. 104 days later, it was moved to the extra stage in X3 mode. Then it was unlocked for normal play 94 days later.
Total time from reveal to fully playable: 198 days.

In the case of our first 19, Valkyrie Dimension in Replicant D-action, it was 118 days from event start (July 7th, 2010) to first available outside of event (and even then, it was only playable in the VS. REPLICANT oni course), and then another 113 days before it was available for normal play.
Total time from reveal to fully playable: 231 days.

Post #5508 · Posted at 2017-10-28 12:39:30pm 7.6 years ago

Offline Zowayix
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Breaking the dates down more granularly,

- March 2015: OT"P"Standard revealed
- April 2015: Difficulty downgrade; OT"P"Light revealed
- May 2015: Difficulty downgrade; OT"P"Beginner revealed
- June 2015: No update
- July 2015: Difficulty downgrade
- July 2015 (again): NITRO doubled for players who haven't unlocked Phase 1 yet
- August 2015: OT"P"Heavy revealed and song playable every credit for the first time

Extrapolating onto Rinon's Adventure III would produce something like this:

- July 2017: A4AStandard revealed
- August 2017: Difficulty downgrade
- September 2017: Difficulty downgrade; A4ALight revealed
- October 2017: No update
- November 2017: Difficulty downgrade; A4ABeginner revealed?
- November 2017 (again): Something like steps for Rinon's Adventure doubled for players who haven't completed World 11 yet?
- December 2017: A4A playable every credit for the first time?

So we might be two months away.

From a different angle though, you could say that Valkyrie took 4 months to become playable every credit, and OT"P" took 5 months, so they could make A4A take 6 months (January 2018) and we'd be three months away. While I'm wishlisting, I'd hope they use the 'extra' month on something that affects phase 2, not just phase 1.

Post #5509 · Posted at 2017-10-28 04:48:01pm 7.6 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
Endymion and A4A won't be made regularly playable until 2018. Come on.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #5510 · Posted at 2017-10-28 06:16:10pm 7.6 years ago

Offline Zowayix
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^ I was referring to playable every credit unlock (regular Extra Stage, or VS Replicant boss course in the case of Valkyrie), not normal play/regular play unlock (playable multiple times a credit).

Post #5511 · Posted at 2017-10-28 06:35:31pm 7.6 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
That's what I meant.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #5512 · Posted at 2017-10-29 03:12:29am 7.6 years ago

Offline BlueFalcon007
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"He has no style, he has no grace"
I was thinking about the speed gimmick of AFA in Heavy as a joke.

What if they will go to the troll route and go Tohoku Evolved with 1000bpm?, I am just joking of course if they are taken in consideration the speed changes based on this:

Light: 200.
Standard: 100-800.

Gonna wait until 2018 for the answer.

Post #5513 · Posted at 2017-10-30 02:15:46pm 7.6 years ago

Offline Nightime
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"ARR JOO LEADY??"
CANDY☆: The sound of victory, after conquering the menace of MAX 300...
KAKUMEI: I get it, "the revolution"
DanceDanceRevolution: A neat mix of classic charts; probably the least challenging OMES though, all things considered.
CHAOS: Obviously messing with us. I did think it was neat how boss songs "broke" the steps and this "fixed" them. Made them all suck for edit mode though, clearly.
TRIP MACHINE PheoniX: SO JUMPY
PARANOiA ~HADES~: ...let's be real. This is AFRONOVA at 300 BPM. And not really fun.
Pluto: Loved the tension here. A very worthy successor to CHAOS.
Pluto Relinquish: NO EFFING WAY WAS THIS "OMES-able."
Horatio: It's really just a lot of DROP OUT's ending, ultimately.
on the bounce: FUN SONG!! It's literally POSSESSION junior.
Trigger: I liked the exciting, menacing tone here.
SABER WING (Headshot Mix): Okay... some of the late-song patternwork was "wtf," but the song itself is wicked cool.
roppongi EVOLVED: Fun. Exciting. Uncertainty. I always favored B&D, personally.
Valkyrie dimension: Basically, this is another Pluto Relinquish. For some reason though... I always thought it sounded a lot like PARANOiA (original)... is it just me?
UNBELIEVABLE (Sparky Remix): This song is unbelievably beautiful. But I don't know about it being OMES right *after* being featured as ES in a home version. Kind of defeats the point, no?
NEPHILIM DELTA: I always found this song to be kind of dry, honestly. I've heard the stuff L.E.D. is capable of. STFU and chart HELL SCAPER already!! That's the OMES we deserve.
SILVER☆DREAM: See "UNBELIEVABLE (Sparky Remix)" and add about 3-4 years to that.
Tohoku EVOLVED: ... I see what you did here, U1. This is almost as bad as L.A. EVOLVED. Do you even know how "EVOLVED songs" work?
LOVE IS THE POWER -Re: born-: A fitting conclusion to X3 vs. 2nd Mix - that Attack! PFC requirement, yo... /shudders
MAX. (Period): It's about time, really.
Over The "Period": This song is just incredible. Never thought it was realistically doable as a PFC, though.
Ace For Aces: I think this is the response to "OTP is too hard for PFC requirement, let's tone it down a notch."
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Post #5514 · Posted at 2017-10-30 03:12:36pm 7.6 years ago

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Quote: Nightime
UNBELIEVABLE (Sparky Remix): This song is unbelievably beautiful. But I don't know about it being OMES right *after* being featured as ES in a home version. Kind of defeats the point, no?
SILVER☆DREAM: See "UNBELIEVABLE (Sparky Remix)" and add about 3-4 years to that.
Tohoku EVOLVED: ... I see what you did here, U1. This is almost as bad as L.A. EVOLVED. Do you even know how "EVOLVED songs" work?
MAX. (Period): It's about time, really.
You could (kinda sorta vaguely) make the same argument about Max.(period) compared to Unbelievable and Silver Dream - they're all home version Extra Stages that became Encore Stages on their arcade debut. The "point" is that their arcade debut is what makes them special stages.

L.A. Evolved was bad because it had no versions whatsoever. Tohoku Evolved kept in the "versions" gimmick and took it to a min-max extreme.

Post #5515 · Posted at 2017-10-30 05:43:07pm 7.6 years ago

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L.A. Evolved was bad because it had no versions whatsoever.
Tohoku Evolved doesn't have any versions either. There's a jump at the end of the song that changes position randomly.
The song would have to change in some way to have different versions. L.A. doesn't, Tohoku doesn't.

So I guess they're both bad.
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Post #5516 · Posted at 2017-10-30 05:55:06pm 7.6 years ago

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L.A. Evolved was bad because it had no versions whatsoever.
Tohoku Evolved doesn't have any versions either. There's a jump at the end of the song that changes position randomly.
The song would have to change in some way to have different versions. L.A. doesn't, Tohoku doesn't.

So I guess they're both bad.

I think that's the point both of them are trying to make...

Post #5517 · Posted at 2017-10-30 06:17:31pm 7.6 years ago

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The player doesn't know which version to prepare for when Tohoku Evolved is picked, which is what the effect of the gimmick is in gameplay and what makes it sufficient to qualify as a genuine Evolved song. (And it's not just any jump, it's a jump on the only quadruple-digit BPM so far in DDR history, and on the last step of an Encore Extra Stage. That's why I said it took the traditional setup of what the versions gimmick means and pushed it to the edge of its definition.)

Post #5518 · Posted at 2017-10-30 06:26:27pm 7.6 years ago

Offline xXMokou98Xx
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Point I was making is that both songs are not bad for having one version. An EVOLVED song arranged from another EVOLVED song isn't bad because it lacks versions. Notably, L.A. is pretty rad, would like to see in arcade, but that's a wish never to come true.

While the EVOLVED series is notable for different versions of songs like Osaka, London, Tokyo, one or two versions that are standalone arrangements/remixes not having different versions isn't really a bad thing at all. I don't know that Tohoku having different versions would work since it's a remix of London with elements of Max. (Period) tossed in there, I guess after the midpoint speedup you could change things up but it's a solid piece of music the whole way through. L.A. Evolved works under a different case where it's just Tokyo EVOLVED but sort of stripped and scrambled around, and finding a way to make three or four versions would be tough when it's already hard enough making one stripped down remix of Tokyo EVOLVED. If you view both L.A. and Tohoku as another "version" of their brethren, then they do have versions: the original EVOLVED mixes that they were remixed from.
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Post #5519 · Posted at 2017-10-30 09:28:54pm 7.6 years ago

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Candy☆: Not bad
Max 300: Nice
DanceDanceRevolution: Not bad
Chaos: Konami's big troll. The first time around is always super trippy.
Trip Machine PhoeniX: Littered with 16th triplets and jumps, I should expect nothing less than trippy from this series.
PARANOiA ~Hades~: WAIT, JUN DID THIS?!?! THE DIFFICULTY SPIKE FROM THE OTHERS IS AMAZING!!!!
Pluto: Chaos, pt 2.
Pluto Relinquish: *Activates leg muscles that have never been used before in this game* KONAMI!!! WHAT IS THIS?!?!
Horatio: You have my respect if you full combo the expert chart, shock arrows shouldn't be there.
Trigger: Mostly meh, but the ending is quite unorthodox. (The last 200 BPM part)
Roppongi EVOLVED: Excellent, I like the chart changes, but D spoils the rest of the fun, since I have to squint the entire way in case the 340 chunk comes my way.
Valkyrie Dimension: Dear Konami, I take back what I said about Pluto Relinquish. BUT WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THIS?!?!?!
Unbelievable (Sparky remix): Now this a Jun song I should expect.
Nephilim Delta: It could be better.
Silver☆Dream: A faster Unbelievable
Tohoku Evolved: And I thought London Evolved was evil....
Love is the power -:Re born-: Nice ending, but you started a monster...
Max. (Period) Pros: An excellent updated challenge charts. Cons: U1, who did you give permission to do the chart?
Over the "Period": *Whew* I just completed the difficult chart, let's see how expert is.... Woah Konami, that was a challenge.
Konami says "Speaking of challenge *drops challenge charts*"
Ace for Aces: Just get rid of the announcer, please
It's like an awesome radio, you cannot see, but you can feel it.

Post #5520 · Posted at 2017-10-30 10:18:16pm 7.6 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
That's actually a good point. Why the fuck isn't the announcer turned off for the Encore Extra Stage?
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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