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Post #5441 · Posted at 2015-03-27 06:05:27am 10.2 years ago

Offline mf32892
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VD had a 15 Standard chart, not sure if any other chart has a standard 15

PARANOiA ~HADES~'s Standard was rerated to a 15. There's also a few on Doubles like Pluto Relinquish, Anti-Matter, VD and Pluto The First (?).

VD S-Standard was the first to officially to be rated a 15 on Difficult.
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Post #5442 · Posted at 2015-03-27 07:20:05am 10.2 years ago

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On the topic of difficulty, I wish sorting by difficulty were IIDX-ish in that it would include difficulties you didn't have currently selected. IE, sorting by 12's would put things like Sync challenge, Kimono Princess Difficult and Tears Expert in the same group.

That would be pretty nifty actually.
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Post #5443 · Posted at 2015-03-27 08:31:54am 10.2 years ago

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I don't understand the complaints about effectively 450 BPM 8ths. EgoismHeavy had 440 (with crossovers to boot), 888Challenge had 444, and Valkyrie dimensionChallenge featured 480. And this is the ending of an 18-footer and a very famous boss song, so it's to be expected that Konami would push the boundaries a bit. FEFEMZ also had no trouble sightread FC'ing it (with 1 Good, but still).
Even The Island Song has rare bursts at 510 (but they're just in groups of 3. A couple are candles and hilariously rude, though.)
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Post #5444 · Posted at 2015-03-27 03:40:06pm 10.2 years ago

Offline PlasmaVenom
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The Marvelous Score in Over the "period" is 1650... Then, N° Steps + Freeze Arrows = 1000000/1650 = 606 (rounded)

In VD Standard that number is less than 500 (Also in Paranoia Hades Standard )

Mmmm... First Challenge lvl 20???

Post #5445 · Posted at 2015-03-27 06:06:38pm 10.2 years ago

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IIRC nobody finished Plan 8 on the first phase it was available.
Waiting for the rule easement on this one too.

The omes song is probably full of bullshit bpm and stops to make you pay the what 6 round per try for every measure in the song.
now I just knew about this. but with that kind of chart, I kinda figured.

I'm agreeing this. IIRC it won't take weeks for a "rule easement" of a boss song. just wait.
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Post #5446 · Posted at 2015-03-27 06:22:13pm 10.2 years ago

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OMG, the new D-Challenge chart is amazing

Post #5447 · Posted at 2015-03-27 06:39:49pm 10.2 years ago

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Maybe you got me over hyped, or maybe I don't know what makes a good doubles chart anymore. I always liked it when they switched up the rhythm on the steps in the chart, which they do a little there but only in the paranoia section and the very end of the final run. There is a lot of back and forth, which is also fun, but I miss things like Genome Screams, emotion, Gamelan de Couple, AA, Mars War 3, etc.
Thanks for showing us the video regardless though!

Post #5448 · Posted at 2015-03-27 06:48:58pm 10.2 years ago

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Why is everyone getting hyped over a chart that could be the first 20-footer..?
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Post #5449 · Posted at 2015-03-27 07:18:58pm 10.2 years ago

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Because different people want different things.

Post #5450 · Posted at 2015-03-27 09:07:05pm 10.2 years ago

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Why is everyone getting hyped over a chart that could be the first 20-footer..?
People are getting hyped to see the first 20 footer but I got a feeling most of them will be disappointed once they see how BS the chart will end up being. Hell there's not even a good 19, why should I expect a good 20?

Just saying...

Post #5451 · Posted at 2015-03-28 12:30:49am 10.2 years ago

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I was hyped when the RDA Challenge charts were unlocked and it was revealed that Valkyrie dimension S-Challenge was the first 19 (not counting Possession D-Challenge which technically came first), even though I fully expected it to be BS. I was not disappointed when the chart was finally revealed. I am expecting something similar with Egoism 440Challenge or Over The "Period"Challenge.

Also I'd like to say that Possession D-Challenge and Paranoia Revolution D-Challenge are both perfectly good 19s. Paranoia Revolution S-Challenge and Valkyrie dimension D-Challenge aren't that bad either.

Post #5452 · Posted at 2015-03-28 12:33:19am 10.2 years ago

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the 19's are pretty fucking bad dude

Post #5453 · Posted at 2015-03-28 12:41:21am 10.2 years ago

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Possession CDP is barely playable. All of the 19s so far are trash.

I hate to bring ITG into this, but even though most of the people here don't like the charts people in the ITG community play, the community has proven that it's possible to have really difficult FUN charts. I'm not talking about the Pendulum songs where it's 7 minutes of 174 BPM stream. There's a pretty big variety of 14s and 15s (and higher) that are great charts. I don't know why Konami can't do this. You don't need stupid jumps and hard crossovers/footswitches to make a difficult chart.
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Post #5454 · Posted at 2015-03-28 01:27:58am 10.2 years ago

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Konami does not have good history as far as making high difficulty Challenge charts, so I fail to see why anyone is surprised at Max.(period) being what it is, and no one should be surprised if/when Egoism 440 Challenge is pure arrow vomit.

There's a right way to make a high level chart, and for whatever reason they can't do it. It's not hard to make a hard chart fun.

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Why is everyone getting hyped over a chart that could be the first 20-footer..?
I have a mighty need to see what in the fuck is harder and stupider than VD Challenge according to Konami.
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Post #5455 · Posted at 2015-03-28 01:34:28am 10.2 years ago

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OMG, the new D-Challenge chart is amazing


They used PARANOiA's X-Special chart same as S-Challenge

Post #5456 · Posted at 2015-03-28 04:28:52am 10.2 years ago

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Why is everyone getting hyped over a chart that could be the first 20-footer..?
I have a mighty need to see what in the fuck is harder and stupider than VD Challenge according to Konami.
This. That's why everyone is hyped, even if they know/expect it to all be BS.

Post #5457 · Posted at 2015-03-28 04:57:50am 10.2 years ago

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I just want to see what a 20 is with my own eyes. I know it'll be horrible and I'll never be able to even pass such a song, but if Konami made their scale out of 20, I want to see what sick and twisted chart they consider to be the hardest.
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Post #5458 · Posted at 2015-03-28 05:27:56am 10.2 years ago

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https://youtu.be/90HjF48vEH0
You get to hear a tiny bit of the song here.
Like.......maybe a whole second. But you get a small feel for the style at least.
This reminds me of Pluto from SN2 honestly. The whole getting to hear the song a couple seconds at a time, not necessarily the song itself. Granted it does sound like the first note or 2 is piano, which is good.

Post #5459 · Posted at 2015-03-28 06:20:50am 10.2 years ago

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Damn, how'd that second step in the Encore Stage miss just like that?

Also hoping people figure out to quickly increase the speed mod at the beginning of OT"P", if it lets you. At least the first six steps are at the same BPM of ~33.

Post #5460 · Posted at 2015-03-28 06:26:04am 10.2 years ago

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I bet the speed is locked. It was for Max.(period) IIRC.
Also, what did I do wrong in my last post to get rated down? I would like to know so I can post better in the future.
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