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Post #5361 · Posted at 2012-08-04 06:39:30pm 13 years ago

Offline TensaiKashou
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VD is a different kind of hard, but thats because VDO makes sense. Paranoia Reolution is the new DEGRS. 360 BPM SPINS! YAY! Who likes this kind of stuff?

Hah. I remember how people were complaining how "VDO MAKE NO SENSE!!!11!11!" right when it came out. X4, it'll be the same thing. "Fade Out Challenge is stupid! At least VDO and PRevo Challenge made sense!" DDR will always be getting harder, and that's not a bad thing. I like it, personally. In particular, the short 16th drills in PRevo are an element that hasn't been used enough in high level charts. But, then again, I think DEGRS is a really fun (and hence, good) chart, so perhaps that makes my opinion invalid.
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Post #5362 · Posted at 2012-08-04 09:08:10pm 13 years ago

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VD is a different kind of hard, but thats because VDO makes sense. Paranoia Reolution is the new DEGRS. 360 BPM SPINS! YAY! Who likes this kind of stuff?

Hah. I remember how people were complaining how "VDO MAKE NO SENSE!!!11!11!" right when it came out. X4, it'll be the same thing. "Fade Out Challenge is stupid! At least VDO and PRevo Challenge made sense!" DDR will always be getting harder, and that's not a bad thing. I like it, personally. In particular, the short 16th drills in PRevo are an element that hasn't been used enough in high level charts. But, then again, I think DEGRS is a really fun (and hence, good) chart, so perhaps that makes my opinion invalid.

I actually kinda came out of hibernation to post about X3, you never saw me personally say that because I wasn't here to say anything about X2 :p Also unless I'm mistaken VDO is just crossover heavy at a high speed for most of its stupidity, no constant spinning like Paranoia Revolution wants from us.
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Post #5363 · Posted at 2012-08-04 09:11:39pm 13 years ago

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Okay, so after coming back home, I come back to the following:
-Immature arguments on using the bar - eh, it happens
-Magic Parade lyrics - THANK YOU SO MUCH Nighttime, now have you figured out the ones to Private Eye, that's the other one I was working on last year XD
-Paranoia Revolution Challenge and it's a 19! - Mindblown, but personally I think I might be able to pass that one if I worked at it. VD Challenge looks like a 50:50 chance song for me because I'd choke the speedups.
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Post #5364 · Posted at 2012-08-04 09:15:42pm 13 years ago

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Post #5365 · Posted at 2012-08-04 10:24:47pm 13 years ago

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Did you get a video of the chart? Unlike me, who forgot to record London Evolved Ver.B DP-Challenge when it finally showed up. Oops
For reference, ver. B step count is 644 / 33:
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For some reason, I kept getting ver. A almost every time I attempt this song. I still haven't seen ver. C yet.
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Post #5366 · Posted at 2012-08-04 11:37:07pm 13 years ago

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I think DEGRS is a really fun (and hence, good) chart

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Post #5367 · Posted at 2012-08-04 11:50:34pm 13 years ago

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Did you get a video of the chart? Unlike me, who forgot to record London Evolved Ver.B DP-Challenge when it finally showed up. Oops
Yes I did.

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Post #5368 · Posted at 2012-08-05 12:11:53am 13 years ago

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For some reason, I kept getting ver. A almost every time I attempt this song. I still haven't seen ver. C yet.

lol that happens to me too. I saw ver. B only once, never seen ver. C and the rest? A.
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Post #5369 · Posted at 2012-08-05 12:23:12am 13 years ago

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For some reason, I kept getting ver. A almost every time I attempt this song. I still haven't seen ver. C yet.

lol that happens to me too. I saw ver. B only once, never seen ver. C and the rest? A.
this happens to me too when I played StepMania. London Evolved ver. A is probably the most played song in my Extra Stage. Oops
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Post #5370 · Posted at 2012-08-05 01:41:37am 13 years ago

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Did you get a video of the chart? Unlike me, who forgot to record London Evolved Ver.B DP-Challenge when it finally showed up. Oops
Yes I did.

Check out the BG video. Especially at 1:33
That is a beautiful BG video, the past and then now! Cry
I feel like this song has more feeling that DDR has changed rather than PARANOiA Revolution.
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Post #5371 · Posted at 2012-08-05 01:55:53am 13 years ago

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Re: BAR PLAY.



"Let's see you bar play THAT."

Apologies that my recorder is kind of retarded sometimes.

Re: Private Eye

I can try to decode that a little later this weekend. Shouldn't be too hard. Going for full version, I presume? ;)

Re: 18-19 Challenge charts

I'm kinda with the "real stages max at 17" argument here. About the only three exceptions that I take seriously are VD Heavy, POSSESSION Challenge, and 888 Challenge. PARA Revolution, awesome song as it might be, is sadly no exception. In fact, I may just end up whoring that one on Standard, actually. Confused

EDIT: There is a valid difficulty range there, and those few shining examples prove it. Konami just hasn't gotten around to really tapping that potential yet. I'm sure lots of people felt the same way about most of Club Version's "CATASTROPHIC" charts at the time those were out. And what do we have to say about stages like that NOW?

Re: X3 vs. 2nd Mix overall

Okay, so it's not the complete smash-hit-blockbuster. Compared with what, X2?! Holy shitbricks, X2 is the new EXTREME. What did you expect?! Considering that X3 is a follow-up of THAT, I'd say they didn't do too badly overall, and I was already beyond excited to FINALLY see all of the EVOLVED songs in an Arcade mix. The 5-day crossovers thing was cool, too. I are srs envy.

Although a little part of me still wants to find whoever created the charts to A Geisha's Dream (Ruffage Remix), The Island Song, and Curry Up, and kick their face so hard that they'd have to start brushing their teeth through their anal cavity. If you're trying to make SEXY PLANET, you're FAILING HORRIBLY AT DOING SO.
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Post #5372 · Posted at 2012-08-05 02:00:29am 13 years ago

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Although a little part of me still wants to find whoever created the charts to A Geisha's Dream (Ruffage Remix), The Island Song, and Curry Up, and kick their face so hard that they'd have to start brushing their teeth through their anal cavity. If you're trying to make SEXY PLANET, you're FAILING HORRIBLY AT DOING SO.

But these songs aren't even in X3...

Post #5373 · Posted at 2012-08-05 02:08:31am 13 years ago

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Check out the BG video. Especially at 1:33

Awesome video. And it seems to feature a dark variant on the X2 background animation at 1:20. Ooh lala~

Post #5374 · Posted at 2012-08-05 04:09:51am 13 years ago

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Here's my personal ranking of the current hardest DDR charts right now (on passing difficulty, not scoring difficulty):

5) Valkyrie dimension D-Challenge - Barely a 19, and only because of the ending crossovers. It's missing the huge 480 BPM 8th stream, the bunch of Tell jumps in a row, the HDVChallenge-style crossovers, and the crazy jump in the middle of the ending from S-Challenge. It's still a notch above the other 18s, though.
4) Valkyrie dimension S-Challenge - There's all four of the ridiculous chart elements above in here, but for the most part they either come in bits and pieces with a lot of non-19-level stuff in between, or they're comparatively easy to BS through (or both).
3) Pluto Relinquish D-Challenge - Should be bumped up to a 19. Definitely harder than both VdimChallenge charts. Compared to Vdim D-Challenge's ending stream (the only thing really making it a 19), PR D-Challenge's ending streams are 8% faster (compare PS to PSM) and significantly longer, and it's almost impossible to BS.
2) Possession D-Challenge - The vast majority of the chart is designed to drain your stamina with few to no rest stops, just in time for those extra wide crossover streams at the end, unique to Double Play. It is much more tiring than any of the previous three charts.
1) Paranoia RevolutionChallenge, both Single and Double (tied). Compared to something like PandemoniumChallenge from ITG, this song's harder. Both songs have basically zero rest stops the whole way through, but this song tops it off with a selection of absurd crossovers, jackhammers, and 16th notes, all at 360 BPM.

To rank these charts, I played them all on Stepmania, on pad no bar 0.5x rate. Possession D-Challenge and ParaRevoChallenge (both charts) were the only three that I could not pass on 0.5x rate. I ranked them based on how hard it felt to pass on 0.5x rate, which should scale up to 1x rate for the superboss players.

Post #5375 · Posted at 2012-08-05 08:15:51am 13 years ago

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I almost forgot to post this: It's slightly old but this was my attempt on TME on Heavy. It's on Stepmania though since I'm in the US.


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Post #5376 · Posted at 2012-08-05 08:39:50am 13 years ago

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Personally, X3 is my favorite Mix. Which happens to be broken somehow at the moment so I can't play it anymore, lol.
Has the best selection of songs personally.

And yes any 19ft chart is going to be BS whatever way you look at it. If it wasn't full of BS then it wouldn't really be an 19. Simple.

Pity PASELI isn't available outside of Japan (I believe) so I can't try some of the Oni charts for now. But I'm sure they'
ll get unlocked later on.

Post #5377 · Posted at 2012-08-05 08:52:25am 13 years ago

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PRevoChallenge and TMEvoChallenge was expected. Some people predicted that PRevo's Challenge chart would hit 19 on the X-scale and it did. It's almost going to be like the same reaction people had with PSMO 10 years ago. But, it was surprisingly that someone got PFC on it. Maybe around 10-15 years from now, those boss songs would be beatable. I mean doesn't anyone want a better yet harder challenge? Perhaps they got what they deserve.

As much as I want to complain about Challenge charts at 18-19, I would just say that there might be more of this in the future games. So prepare yourselves for the worse to come.
Perhaps a 20 chart

Post #5378 · Posted at 2012-08-05 11:35:54am 13 years ago

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Background is cool but I kinda find it a bit distracting especially when this EES requires a Perfect Full Combo. Very awesome job Dr. D.

Post #5379 · Posted at 2012-08-05 11:38:10am 13 years ago

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"Keep the frequency clear."
IMO, PRevo Challenge is harder than VDO. If we compare the chart, the 480 BPM 8th streams on VDO are quite short. The chart mainly runs at 180 and the 16th is quite short and reasonable. The jackhammer at the end part are short and the 16th crossover is a little variations from HDVO. Yeah, it's 19, but it can be considered an easy-to-medium 19.

In the other hand, PRrevo Challenge runs mainly on 360 BPM, which makes it slightly harder to read. There's a long bunch of 360 BPM 8th streams and 180 BPM 16th streams with little rest points. The jackhammers spread randomly across the chart make it even worse, and I'm quite impressed that KONAMI managed to add 16th on 360 BPM part, which is quite inventive. Despite the chart match the beat of the song quite nicely, those features make it a medium-to-high 19.

And I can see in future that PRevo Challenge will take a long time to be A'ed just like how Mei takes years to be cleared.
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Post #5380 · Posted at 2012-08-05 12:00:42pm 13 years ago

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That pretty much matches my above post.
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