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Post #5301 · Posted at 2011-03-06 02:26:08am 14.2 years ago

Offline Trip Machina
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Konami would be extremely very stupid to cancel the Xbox 360 DDR after releasing press releases not so long ago. Though it wouldn't surprise me as this is Konami America we are talking about.

Mook: Sir, we've finished production on the latest installment of Dance Dance Revolution for the XBox 360! Copies are printed and ready to ship to all of the video game retailers!
Emperor of Konami: Good, good, things are going quite swimmingly.
Mook: Shall we release them then, sir?
Emperor: No.

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Hahahaha, that made me laugh! Most of the time, Konami's motives/intentions are completely unknown.


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Konami would be extremely very stupid to cancel the Xbox 360 DDR after releasing press releases not so long ago. Though it wouldn't surprise me as this is Konami America we are talking about. Roll Eyes

Konami (insert branch here): (2006) "Look we have this cool thing called e-Amuse and you can have it in the arcades for DDR in the US!!! Also you can use your song edits from DDR SuperNOVA for the PeeEsTew in the new upcoming arcade title! It even says it in the manual!"

(2007) "Hey just sign up we have servers and everything for e-Amuse! Just give us your money and you can be in the future, now! Oh and what was that about edits on the AC mix? I don't know what you're talking about"

(2008) "Wow! Look at these fresh beats on this machine! It's DDR X and it's gonna make you combo wombo!!!! You can even make your own step charts for the game and upload them with SD cards! USB flash drives when the game comes out! at a later date! They also have these kickin' keypads where the arcade game can connect to our e-Amuse servers and track your stats and battle it out with rivals from ACROSS THE WORLD!!! There might be a little problem with our screens but we'll get that fixed soon! eventually! If we get around to it.

Yeah I think Konami is really good at releasing things that they advertise. Although, in some cases the blame can go to Benson But let's just ignore that because Benson is just amazing and loves it's fanbase.

I want e-Amuse Sad Sad

Hahahaha, yes yes yes absolutely! You've pretty much summed it up right, and I do remember when they lied about that e-Amuse across the world humbug. I start to wonder if all decisions are made by a single CEO whenever he deems necessary whether it's potentially beneficial for the company or not. =/
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Post #5302 · Posted at 2011-03-06 02:55:59am 14.2 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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You've pretty much summed it up right, and I do remember when they lied about that e-Amuse across the world humbug.

KONAMI's a big boy and doesn't need defending, but I figured I'd point out that they were actually really, really trying to make it work in North America. The problem is, as Aeron explained, the infrastructure is just not there and KONAMI needed help to get it there. They've actually been looking for third parties to help them with this but so far nothing has materialized. It's a logistical nightmare, and I can appreciate that. Given all the obstacles outside of KONAMI's control on the way to eAMUSE in North America, it's a miracle they're even trying, and not at all surprising it hasn't succeeded thus far.

And after it became apparent that North America itself was going to be an incredible challenge, it would be insane for them to even continue trying to roll it out to other regions at the same time (though I imagine they're looking for opportunities in Europe).
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Post #5303 · Posted at 2011-03-06 11:05:09am 14.2 years ago

Offline sharibetsu
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You know, if they had more Bemani games out here and other e-Amuse compatible games in the first place it wouldn't have been so bad. I mean Silent Hill AC even uses e-Amuse and I know for sure that game would totally rock out here in the states. Just look at all the other shooters in NA like that Terminator game that came out last year. I know it's not Konami's fault for not having e-Amuse out here but they basically did themselves in by not having the games translated in the first place. Also there are ways around having the e-Amuse system setup only for DDR. With internet speeds nowadays it shouldn't be that hard to have, say, 50 e-Amuse connected DDR games in NA and have them connected to Japan's servers. Yeah there will be some lag but it's not like we're playing live with 100 other people in sync. We play FPS games with people connected all over the world right?

Then again they have a crazy huge infrastructure set up and it's not so simple.
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Post #5304 · Posted at 2011-03-06 11:19:31am 14.2 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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The fact is that the US arcade market and Japanese/Asian arcade markets are completely different. You guys are all acting like Konami is missing out on some gold mine by not bringing e-amuse over to the states, but the truth is that it is simply not a feasible option right now for North America.

Post #5305 · Posted at 2011-03-06 11:24:50am 14.2 years ago

Offline sharibetsu
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The fact is that the US arcade market and Japanese/Asian arcade markets are completely different. You guys are all acting like Konami is missing out on some gold mine by not bringing e-amuse over to the states, but the truth is that it is simply not a feasible option right now for North America.

I understand that at least, but shouldn't there be a way to have a stripped down version of e-Amuse that allows records at least? I don't mean that we should have the huge multi-million(?) dollar system that's been used for roughly five years now. Most people just want that.
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Post #5306 · Posted at 2011-03-06 01:11:24pm 14.2 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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I understand that at least, but shouldn't there be a way to have a stripped down version of e-Amuse that allows records at least? I don't mean that we should have the huge multi-million(?) dollar system that's been used for roughly five years now. Most people just want that.

Any internet-based system will encoutner 99% of the same problems eAMUSE encountered. The issue isn't the way the service is administered, it's getting any kind of internet-based service up and running in North American arcades.
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Post #5307 · Posted at 2011-03-06 01:16:32pm 14.2 years ago

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The fact is that the US arcade market and Japanese/Asian arcade markets are completely different. You guys are all acting like Konami is missing out on some gold mine by not bringing e-amuse over to the states, but the truth is that it is simply not a feasible option right now for North America.

This x1000.

Learn economics. Realize why Konami doesn't do certain things Big Grin
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Post #5308 · Posted at 2011-03-06 02:25:07pm 14.2 years ago

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you guys do realize that konami said they would TRY and implement e-amuse worldwide, not WOULD, dont you? as was stated (repeatedly), it just wasnt feasible. my god, you guys are worse than the guys on MvC3 boards going nuts because CAPCOM said the game would have a "robust story" and now people are pissed there isnt a story mode that was "promised".

reading comprehension is your friend, i suggest you slow down a bit and read everything, THEN form an opinion.
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Post #5309 · Posted at 2011-03-06 03:04:24pm 14.2 years ago

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my god, you guys are worse than the guys on MvC3 boards going nuts because CAPCOM said the game would have a "robust story" and now people are pissed there isnt a story mode that was "promised".

People are actually pissed off about that? Hell, I'm just glad they actually bothered to give us endings this time.

Post #5310 · Posted at 2011-03-12 03:14:39pm 14.2 years ago

Offline Corootai
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Hey guys, i have a question. has there been any news what so ever on the xbox version of the latest DDR?
feature wise, i'm thinking it's not going to have that extra play mode with the move but in the 360's case kinect XD lol

Post #5311 · Posted at 2011-03-12 03:46:06pm 14.2 years ago

Offline AeronPeryton
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"Give me a steady beat."
If there is another Xbox 360 DDR game, it probably will have nothing to do with DDR X2.

Post #5312 · Posted at 2011-03-13 03:38:51am 14.2 years ago

Offline T-14
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I got a message from DDR Community on Xbox a little while ago explaining how the DDR Community website was shutting down and that the new DDR game for 360 was being released in April and it will not have Xbox Live mutiplayer in anyway. Nothing was said about DLC though. I never really used Xbox live on DDR anyway so it's not a huge deal, but at least we have a release date of some sort.
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Post #5313 · Posted at 2011-03-16 11:27:21am 14.2 years ago

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Just got game informer in the mail today. DDR for 360 is scheduled for around April 12th. Let's hope that they don't pull another "Duke Nukem" and delay it again.

Post #5314 · Posted at 2011-03-16 11:46:07am 14.2 years ago

Offline AeronPeryton
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"Give me a steady beat."
Duke Nukem Forever was first announced before DanceDanceRevolution was a SERIES! Shocked

Post #5315 · Posted at 2011-03-16 01:01:48pm 14.2 years ago

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ok my joke was epic fail.

*facepalms*

Post #5316 · Posted at 2011-03-16 01:02:07pm 14.2 years ago

Offline Nightime
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You realize what they're doing now, right? "Money over matter." What they have in X2 (arcade) is a brand new issue of what EXTREME (arcade) is here. How long did it take the US to get access - between two entire different console, I might add - to that game's stellar tracklist (or even just the Konami Originals from it)?

Oh, right! 7 releases later, and we're STILL waiting on that. Only in this case, for once; we don't even have the OPTION of buying the imported version, because THAT doesn't exist either. And then, we've got jubeat. It's an alright game in it's own respect, sure. But I don't like it, and you know why? It's a sales gimmick, and pretty much nothing else. First, it "sells" the concept of having full tracklist/releases by forcing both itself AND the eAmuse system to be in place. Then, for every few songs/crossovers featured, it forces players to play it.

Don't get me wrong, the newer DDR games have a few things going good for them, like the commissioned artists, the jun/EVOLVED boss songs (at least). Even the majority of DLC packs force purchases of "mediocre"/ignorable material in the packs to have access to the better tracks. For as easy as they could've grouped difficulty/attraction ranges of songs together, what do they release?

Quote: "DDR SuperNOVA Hits pack 2"

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Flow (True Style)
Star Gate Heaven
INNOCENCE OF SILENCE
Fascination MAXX

Who in their right mind is going to simultaneously jump on what's arguably the easiest K.O. song in SuperNOVA -and- the by-far hardest one, and want them both? (No complaints about the middle-ground tracks.) Plus, I *really* don't feel like repurchasing my entire PS2 library (Notice! Absolutely NO content from Wii, XBox or X360 games AT ALL), just to play on my HDTV - which is capable of streaming my PC/Stepmania with no lag at all, btw. If Konami's going to sandbag this hard, and turn their once-repsected franchises into some convoluted disaster like they have this year, I'm sorry. I can find better things to do.

It just sucks entirely, watching them blow through what could EASILY be the best product-creation phase in history; and rather than marketing THAT for what it's worth (IE: what they're selling the shovelware for), they're simply tiptoeing around it instead.
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Post #5317 · Posted at 2011-03-16 03:45:55pm 14.2 years ago

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Hey guys, i have a question. has there been any news what so ever on the xbox version of the latest DDR?
feature wise, i'm thinking it's not going to have that extra play mode with the move but in the 360's case kinect XD lol

From the screenshots that were provided, it's a direct port of the PS3 DDR except it will not have PS Move nor KINECT.

Post #5318 · Posted at 2011-03-16 03:49:05pm 14.2 years ago

Offline AeronPeryton
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"Give me a steady beat."
So now the Xbox 360 "DanceDanceRevolution" is going to be a nerfed copy of a re-written (and nerfed) version of a localized console port of DDR X2?

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Post #5319 · Posted at 2011-03-16 03:56:48pm 14.2 years ago

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Huh ? Really ?

X2 JP for XBOX 360 ? Shocked
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Post #5320 · Posted at 2011-03-16 03:59:37pm 14.2 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
No. Two years ago it looked like the 360 was going to get a faithful port a game running the X2 engine, then K O N A M I.
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