DDR X3 VS 2ndMIX (AC) (Japan)

Just got done watching Para Revo's D-Oni chart & I just have one question:

did I just see 16th notes going 360 BPM at the end of the song?

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Yes. Yes you did.

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Haha, found this on twitter:

Looks like the fastest triplet has been broken as well, deltaMAX's oni triplet near the 530 BPM mark EASILY outdone by... The equivalent of stepping at 1440 BPM.

It's gotta be like the equivalent of just jumping, though I'm not sure how possible that would be since it's a triplet.

Very creepy Paranoia faces. Reminds me of Vanessa from beatmaniaIIDX 14: GOLD

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deltaMAX's fastest triplet is 8ths at 538 BPM, or a brief spurt of 18 steps per second.
ParaRevo's fastest triplet is 16ths at 360 BPM, or a brief spurt of 24 steps per second.

They're not terribly far apart, but still, it's crazy.

You can hear it with assist tick on here:

Yes, that's what they are. 16th notes.


They are not triplets.

a triplet is different from a 16th note.

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Doesn't Pluto Relinquish have a couple 16th gallops at the last 400BPM part prior to the final death run? I think those are the most rapid notes in all of DDR even though theyre only a few gallops.


At 1:34

those are only 3 gallops & those have been fixed,

at least, that's what I heard

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3 gallops are still existing notes c:

Those gallops have been moved to the nearest 8th note as of DDR X AC. (They still exist on all versions of SN2 and X PS2 NA.)

@silenttype01: I know that musically a "triplet" involves 12th notes, so you're right in that that term isn't exactly accurate. What term would you use to represent a set of three 16th notes?

Careful, He hates the term "12th note"

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I think the reason why the final 16th triplet exists PARANOiA REVOLUTION D- is because the stepchart writers intentionally wanted to have exactly 735 steps; to keep with their "5","7","3" namesake. . 734 steps wouldn't be anything special, especially because PARANOiA is the main staple of DDR.

IMO, this really has nothing to do with trying to be the fastest step in DDR, as Pluto Relenquished & already accomplished that. (Pre-X AC)

There is no such thing as a 12th note.* A triplet is three notes spaced out in a room for two notes, so to speak.

You have a quarter note. A quarter note has two eighth notes. An eighth note triplet has the same value as a quarter note.

In terms of ddr, an eighth note triplet would be a red arrow and two green arrows. A perfect example of this triplet is the ending of Get Up N Move S

A quarter note triplet would be a red arrow, a yellow arrow and a blue arrow. A perfect example of this triplet is El Ritmo Tropical S

The rhythm for the last steps in Paranoia Revolution is two sixteenth notes followed by an eighth note, ending ending whole note, the whole note represented by the freeze arrow.

* = 12th note is a compound fifth blah blah blah


a sixteenth triplet would be three sixteenth notes in the space of an eighth note :V

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I see what you mean. Should I call them "16th triples" instead?

Looks like Nephilim Delta and Tohoku Evolved didn't get charts, otherwise someone would have found out over the course of 17 hours. (Unless they're only going to be revealed on the final unlock, but I don't have my hopes up.)

you say 16th notes. No need for the word triplet or triples

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It's been too long, but I don't think this is correct. A quarter triplet is actually also red, green,green. A good example is the ending to possession after the second jump sequence. The jump sequence is actually a good example of half note triplets and is also red,green,green, just with more space between.

Using green notes to fill up a measure takes 12 arrows (4red, 8green). Removing the 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th, and 12th arrows gives a measure of quarter triplets.

I haven't used much of this stuff in a while so please feel free to point out anything that is wrong there.

Anyway, Paranoia Revolution doesn't use triplets.

My explanation was in relation to 4/4 time. That triplet section in Possession is actually in 6/8 time. If the DDR engine supported other time signatures, that section would be red blue blue red blue blue, with the triplet streams being red yellow blue yellow blue yellow red etc etc. And if the DDR engine did support different time signatures, that section would have a tempo change.

Possession's current form of the chart is the workaround to using an engine coded in 4/4 time.


This so much.

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Bemani Wiki's entry says that PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME (Jazzy Groove) got new beginner steps. Can anyone verify if these steps are in fact different than the ones in Dancing Stage Fever?

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Fair enough. I wasn't even thinking about time signatures for whatever reason (been out of it too long). But it is what the triplets look like represented in 4/4 time. So it probably wasn't the best example musically.