DanceDanceRevolution X (AC) (International)

I think Konami will not sue Activision right now. Because they're make Guitar Hero The Arcade with Konami too.

I think that GHRB fit's only with American rock songs only.

Wait, is this DDR X's thread or Guitar Hero's thread?

OOT. ~_~

Dance Dance Revolution
Dance Dance Revolution USA
Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA
Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA 2

Four official releases.

The very first DDR game was a staggered worldwide release. By the time North America and Europe got it it had 2ndMIX songs (Which was already out in Japan) tacked onto it (Boom Boom Dollar, Boys, Make It Better (So - Real Mix), Brilliant 2U & (Orchestra Groove), Put Your Faith in Me & (Jazzy Groove) and I Believe in Miracles but lacked Little Bitch for some reason. It was probably running the 2ndMIX engine as well, but the skin was definitely that of 1st. Also the North American release did have Internet Ranking while the European release did not... until they re-released it with three additional songs and IR support.

There was also a generic Asian release of 1st which had the 2ndMIX songs with the exception of Boom Boom Dollar yet retained Little Bitch and had the weird one off subtitles for Brilliant 2U and PYFIM's remixes. And no Internet Ranking.

...The above two paragraphs is what happens when you do too much research for Wiki articles. Derp.

If I recall correctly, Activision pays Konami for use of its patents, thus avoids getting sued but that could be just the OH GOD IT'S 4AM WHY DOESN'T NYQUIL WORK factor.

Konami had the continuation of the series in mind, with their tag line from EXTREME "We're Starting Over!". But I doubt SuperNOVA as it became was anywhere beyond the concept stage. They knew they wanted to keep going, they just didn't know how they were going to go about it.

Yeah, I don't know why a song with 'bitch' in the title would be removed.

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Starting with GFDM V, they already removed the mix from their title too. Although the series now follow a pattern of using V +1 more number from the previous one. The last one using mix is GF 11th & DM 10th

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Clearly Extreme is Dance Dance Revolution 3rdMIX 6, anyway I was teasing somewhat with the "what is 8thMIX?" comment (in case you hadn't noticed) - I've been around long enough to remember Extreme's release XD


You are mistaken. Nothing on the arcade hardware (nor in the software) openly mentions "8thMIX", anywhere - except for some bootleg upgrade EEPROMs (and they aren't official anyway, piracy FTW/L). This was a sharp contrast to DDRMAX and DDRMAX2 which still mentioned the mix number (albeit as a subtitle - their main titles are still DDRMAX Dance Dance Revolution 6thMIX and DDRMAX2 Dance Dance Revolution 7thMIX).


Yeah, well DDRfreak's arcade forums also used to believe that System 573 digital hardware was "region locked" (I believed that for quite some time until I discovered from personal experience that it is not).


You are correct. Even the legitimate cabs (of which there are very few in the US, and even fewer in the UK) aren't technically licensed for the region. And sadly Dance Dance Revolution EXTREME was the single most bootlegged mix of them all (to the extent where the crackers had developed a bootleg upgrade that didn't even need hardware modification).


Because... at the end of the day, it was never called that. People don't call Dancing Stage Fusion "Dancing Stage EuroMIX 3", do they? XD


Well, *technically*, the first EU release was "Dancing Stage" followed shortly by the version of "Dancing Stage" with Internet Ranking (and the infamous "Uh La La La" chart). I don't know where people get the term "Dancing Stage 1.5" from, either (HELLO DDR:uk SIMFILES). However, aside from that small detail you are spot on

And finally... in terms of Pop'n, it should be noted that the word "MIX" or "Style" has never been used You are right that they still keep the number though XD

AAAAANYWAY. Sorry for taking this thread off-topic

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Sorry about the derailment.

So, wait, they only had like, 7 songs in the first mix right? How quickly did 2nd Mix become available in Japan?

*scratches head* I keep hurting myself with this because I'm SURE one of the solo mixes has the song "The Earth Light" in it. But even though I have the Solo mixes, I don't have the dam song. AGH!!!

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THE EARTH LIGHT is on the Club versions of DDR, on KONAMIX and the first ULTRAMIX. Neither Solo 2000 or Solo Bass have that song.

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Random stuff that might be interesting (To Chi)


The long answer is :

The first release was the japanese 'Dance Dance Revolution", which was patched to "'Dance Dance Revolution Internet Ranking Version" in japan. After that, we got "Dance Dance Revolution 2nd Mix", which had a different interface, the ability to change difficulties without a secret code, and new songs.

After 2nd Mix, Konami released another machine intended for the western market, also called "Dance Dance Revolution", which uses the interface from the first game, but includes songs from Internet Ranking Version and 2nd Mix. Everyone referred to this as "DDR 1.5".

When Dancing Stage was released, and patched to Internet Ranking Version, everyone was already used to differentiating between "DDR" and "DDR 1.5" because the latter contained a handful of new songs, and nothing else. I guess it seemed an obvious way to differentiate between the 2 near-identical "Dancing Stage" games as well.

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The short answer is :

That's what my copy of DWI referred to the game as, when I gave it to Lawrence, to upload to DDRUK.


It was originaly going to be called "DDR Generation NEXT", so I wouldn't complain.


They advertised DDR Extreme as being a "new series", but probably always knew it would be the last DDR game. The first two songs announced for DDR Extreme were :

Graduation - A ballad meant to symbolise how DDR has given both Naoki and Riyu Koasaka the chance to learn their craft, and grow as people, but which must now end, so that they can move on, and continue to grow.

Hyper Eurobeat - A collaboration of all of Naoki's vocal artists (Robbie Danzie, Paula Terry, Ebony Faye and Londell Hicks for one final song)

At location tests, the Extra Stage was "The Legend Of Max", which Konami probably assumed nobody would be able to AA. When someone did AA it, instead of getting "One More Extra Stage", the screen came up with "One More Final Stage", and showed a banner for a song simply called "-Fin-", which was all of Noaki's vocal artists taking turns singing and rapping over a remix of the opening music to the original DDR, with steps copied from several of Naoki's old songs.

When the game was released, "-Fin-" has been renamed to "Dance Dance Revolution", and there was tagline above the machine that said "We are starting over", which made people question whether the series was really ending or not.

A few months later, Konami released DDR Extreme CS for the PS2, which of course gave us "Max .period", and moved the DDR AC staff to the Pop'n Music team.

They didn't plan SuperNOVA until several years later, probably as a result of the number of successful CS releases, and the fact that their music contract with EMI was running out, and this was their last chance to put out a DDR game for very little money, before it ran out.

@Chi : apparently on DS 1.5 it says on one of the screesn Ver.1.5 which is where the whole Dancing Stage 1.5 name came from, just a quick bit of info for you xD

One things bothering me about this, america are getting upgrade kits but the UK an europe are ONLY getting dedicabs? Im kind of annoyed as well as pleased because more Dedicabs = yay but with no option to upgrade old cabs only trade in less places are gonna get it really

Yay, Tyma I love it when you come and talk history <3

Kris: If the US are getting upgrade kits, it may well be that Konami Europe have a change of heart too (after all, the information that there were no plans for upgrade kits was only true as of the end of January - plenty of tine to change the plans). Konami US seem to be pretty tightly linked to them...

Interesting about DS 1.5. I've only ever seen one in the wild (Maidenhead bowling alley FTW), and not seen it booting, so thanks for the info.

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@KP, I don't like the dedicabs purely because the screen lets it down with its judgement lag :/

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We haven't seen any UK dedicabs yet. The machine at ATEI / Trocadero is a Betson machine, not one of the Electrocoin ones we'll be getting.

Well, the Japanese cabs have been fixed for this problem (and were very soon after release), and surely it is display lag, not judgement lag ;p

I dunno about the rest of you, but the prospect of Electrocoin cabs in the UK scares me a little (For any Londoners, just go to Casino arcade in Goodge Street, London and you'll see the build quality they used to have a few years ago). I wonder where the parts will be manufactured, though (especially the stages)? At ATEI, Konami seem to intimate that the parts were to be sourced from the US (but that doesn't mean much, given that I was once told by the same guy that the Dancing Stage fusion at ATEI several years ago was only 80% complete, when it was more like 95% like the final release).

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Electrocoin run a trade-in scheme, where you can trade in your old Dancing Stage cabinet for a new dedicab. Electrocoin manufacture the cabinet, and refurbish the stages they receive, to send out with the new cabinets.

So all the new stuff is manufactured in Barry, the stages are refurbished from old machines. That's basicaly the best we can hope for, given how bad the american stages are.

With attempts to re-re-re-re(X number of re-s)rail this thread:

There are still a few songs left to unlock on X, and some of them may be coming with songs from HP/HP2/FFP. Is there a chance to see the new versions of Brilliant2U, CELEBRATE NIGHT, and Keep on Movin'?

Also, if KYOKA-SUGETSU-ROW (DDR EDITION) finds its way onto AC, are we going to get the TERRA stage with PV, the PV itself, or neither?

Lastly, I know that some of the new songs have dance routines, but do the Xmixes have dance routines as well

Outside of that, I wish I could send my edits, but I don't have X JP CS or a flash drive. What can I do now besides wait for the next US release so I can make an edit for Chance and Dice?

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Erm, the US arcade release will also come with the release of PC software that allows us to make edits and transfer them to an SD card to be played on the arcade.

I'm going to guess it won't have the music on it to test the chart out so now I am wondering, how are we going to test out the chart? I know we can just use Stepmania, but I don't think Konami would want us to initially do that.

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Yes...we know that by now

To answer this question (to anyone who is wondering or wants an answer to): were just going to have to wait until next month to hear anything about the AC and the PC program.

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