Post #5101 · Posted at 2017-09-14 02:08:03am 7.8 years ago
BPM Changes on different difficulty? This is new to DDR. Is there proof?
Post #5102 · Posted at 2017-09-14 02:09:27am 7.8 years ago
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If this is true, I'm now EXTREMELY intrigued to see the 
chart.
chart.
Post #5103 · Posted at 2017-09-14 02:12:52am 7.8 years ago
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ACE FOR ACES ESP
BPM 25-1600
Calling it. [/s]
BPM 25-1600
Calling it. [/s]
Post #5104 · Posted at 2017-09-14 02:15:10am 7.8 years ago
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I can't wait to see a video for this...
Post #5105 · Posted at 2017-09-14 02:17:30am 7.8 years ago
I can't wait to play the damn simfile for this. Did .ssc files just get canonized?
EDIT: just realized. if they're changing the BPMs and stops for each difficulty of A4A, I bet the will have steps on every beat of the ending.
EDIT: just realized. if they're changing the BPMs and stops for each difficulty of A4A, I bet the
will have steps on every beat of the ending.Post #5106 · Posted at 2017-09-14 02:53:56am 7.8 years ago
https://twitter.com/rad_rodd/status/908152379689676800 - short video. Players expected a speed up and failed.
Post #5107 · Posted at 2017-09-14 02:55:32am 7.8 years ago
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that is weird. How is that going to look if two players clear Endymion on different difficulties (I.e. Basic vs Difficult) and play A4A?
that is weird. How is that going to look if two players clear Endymion on different difficulties (I.e. Basic vs Difficult) and play A4A?
Post #5108 · Posted at 2017-09-14 02:58:02am 7.8 years ago
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RIP StepMania 3.9 users. This is incredible.
Post #5109 · Posted at 2017-09-14 03:06:14am 7.8 years ago
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konami you bastards 
Post #5110 · Posted at 2017-09-14 03:14:01am 7.8 years ago
This is very interesting. It'd be great if they did this back when they started making crazy BPM gimmick songs in the first place, but it's pretty cool to see them do this now at least. Ironically in this instance it's actually causing fails which is pretty amazing in its own right.
I'd be pretty happy if they went back and nerfed the bpm changes and stops of
and 
for some of the other boss songs, but knowing how reluctant KONAMI is to do anything besides fixes to old charts these days, that probably wont happen.
I'd be pretty happy if they went back and nerfed the bpm changes and stops of
and for some of the other boss songs, but knowing how reluctant KONAMI is to do anything besides fixes to old charts these days, that probably wont happen.Post #5111 · Posted at 2017-09-14 03:22:27am 7.8 years ago
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Now I'm really curious about what happens if two people play Endymion 
and (1) both pass, (2) only the player passes, (3) only the player passes.
and (1) both pass, (2) only the player passes, (3) only the player passes.Post #5112 · Posted at 2017-09-14 03:30:07am 7.8 years ago
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Has anyone checked to see if the Difficult chart didn't change to remove its BPM changes in accordance with the new Basic?
Post #5113 · Posted at 2017-09-14 03:39:19am 7.8 years ago
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Quote: Zowayix
Now I'm really curious about what happens if two people play Endymion and (1) both pass, (2) only the player passes, (3) only the player passes.
and (1) both pass, (2) only the player passes, (3) only the player passes.I want to believe the hardest difficulty will have priority.
Post #5114 · Posted at 2017-09-14 04:06:51am 7.8 years ago
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Quote: Zowayix
Now I'm really curious about what happens if two people play Endymion and (1) both pass, (2) only the player passes, (3) only the player passes.
and (1) both pass, (2) only the player passes, (3) only the player passes.I played with someone earlier who did Endy
while I did . It gave both of us Ace for Aces Post #5115 · Posted at 2017-09-14 04:31:27am 7.8 years ago
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https://twitter.com/1831shun06021/status/908181900501516288
ACE FOR ACES BDP
It seems the Basic chart doesn't have stops, slowdowns nor speedups.
ACE FOR ACES BDP
It seems the Basic chart doesn't have stops, slowdowns nor speedups.
Post #5116 · Posted at 2017-09-14 04:39:31am 7.8 years ago
Quote: stylek226
BPM Changes on different difficulty? This is new to DDR. Is there proof?
I dunno. PIU did it first.
But then again, I guess DDR caught on with the practice of employing speed changes on individual charts after 10+ years or so.
Post #5117 · Posted at 2017-09-14 05:05:44am 7.8 years ago
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Quote: DDR Addict
Has anyone checked to see if the Difficult chart didn't change to remove its BPM changes in accordance with the new Basic?
Someone just played Ace for Aces on difficult and confirmed it has the same tempo changes.
https://twitter.com/bigc927/status/908189371970371584
https://twitter.com/bigc927/status/908190671193829376
Post #5118 · Posted at 2017-09-14 12:16:15pm 7.8 years ago
Split timing, huh? This is a ballsy move on Konami's part and I wholeheartedly approve.
I propose that ACE FOR ACES on the DDR A Beta simfile category should be SSC only so it gives a push for more players to use SM5.
EDIT: Ah, it's already been done. Good.
I propose that ACE FOR ACES on the DDR A Beta simfile category should be SSC only so it gives a push for more players to use SM5.
EDIT: Ah, it's already been done. Good.
Post #5119 · Posted at 2017-09-14 01:23:38pm 7.8 years ago
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So the question is, what's gonna happen when this is unlocked for normal play and one person wants to play and the other ? If P1 doesn't have the gimmicks while P2 does, seems that P2 could cheat a little by looking at P1's side...(even if the charts aren't the same, some of the notes after pauses line up on both charts I'm assuming like after the first stop in the chart, so looking over the other player's screen is still useful)
and the other ? If P1 doesn't have the gimmicks while P2 does, seems that P2 could cheat a little by looking at P1's side...(even if the charts aren't the same, some of the notes after pauses line up on both charts I'm assuming like after the first stop in the chart, so looking over the other player's screen is still useful)Post #5120 · Posted at 2017-09-14 03:49:46pm 7.8 years ago
https://twitter.com/26964/status/908264902346678272
Looks like it's possible to play Ace For Aces on and at the same time. Photos only, no video.
https://twitter.com/rad_rodd/status/908208420506894337
36% of the way through the S- chart on video. We're still waiting on a video of the full chart; shouldn't take more than a day I'd hope.
https://twitter.com/top_maxwell/status/908220968039981057
Results screen of the S- chart. It has 311 steps and 19 freezes.
Edit: Misread "steps" as "stops", but I suppose both are equally possible. Either way, we could easily see have totally different gimmicks compared to to make it even harder.
EDIT: I missed it live by a handful of hours, but we have a video of Ace For Aces S- now! Dr.D and Estepper look like the first to pass it on video!
(Skip to 2:46:55)
Since they played Endymion on and failed , and got Ace For Aces, this confirms that one player making it to Encore gives both players that difficulty, and both players making it to Encore gives them separate difficulties. Looks like what I guessed 3 weeks ago was completely wrong. On the good side, this makes the possibility of Endymion
-> Ace For Aces much higher.
Looks like it's possible to play Ace For Aces on
and at the same time. Photos only, no video.https://twitter.com/rad_rodd/status/908208420506894337
36% of the way through the S-
chart on video. https://twitter.com/top_maxwell/status/908220968039981057
Results screen of the S-
chart. It has 311 steps and 19 freezes.Quote: Kappatalist
just realized. if they're changing the BPMs and stops for each difficulty of A4A, I bet the will have steps on every beat of the ending.
oh god will have steps on every beat of the ending.Edit: Misread "steps" as "stops", but I suppose both are equally possible. Either way, we could easily see
have totally different gimmicks compared to to make it even harder.Quote: PureBlue
I played with someone earlier who did Endy while I did . It gave both of us Ace for Aces
Odd - did only the other player meet the EES conditions? (If you got below a AA+/didn't have 7 heat power/etc.) while I did . It gave both of us Ace for Aces Quote: Storm_x8
So the question is, what's gonna happen when this is unlocked for normal play and one person wants to play and the other ? If P1 doesn't have the gimmicks while P2 does, seems that P2 could cheat a little by looking at P1's side...(even if the charts aren't the same, some of the notes after pauses line up on both charts I'm assuming like after the first stop in the chart, so looking over the other player's screen is still useful)
I'd guess the same thing as when there's a song with a large BPM change, and both players use wildly different speed mods so both can read off the other's side at opportune times (i.e. nothing unexpected will happen). and the other ? If P1 doesn't have the gimmicks while P2 does, seems that P2 could cheat a little by looking at P1's side...(even if the charts aren't the same, some of the notes after pauses line up on both charts I'm assuming like after the first stop in the chart, so looking over the other player's screen is still useful)EDIT: I missed it live by a handful of hours, but we have a video of Ace For Aces S-
now! Dr.D and Estepper look like the first to pass it on video!(Skip to 2:46:55)
Since they played Endymion on
and failed , and got Ace For Aces, this confirms that one player making it to Encore gives both players that difficulty, and both players making it to Encore gives them separate difficulties. Looks like what I guessed 3 weeks ago was completely wrong. On the good side, this makes the possibility of Endymion -> Ace For Aces much higher.