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Post #461 · Posted at 2015-07-10 11:19:48pm 10.1 years ago

Offline Loodee
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Just giving my thoughts on this:

Quote: darkanine
Gasei Sozai Sono 1
Steps are slightly early. Also, you followed the melody exactly, which isn’t a good thing. It made the chart seem repetitive. Instead, try to mix it up by following the drums in some parts, or by making your own rhythm to go with the song. However, besides that, the steps were good.

Please be careful if you're making up your own rhythm, especially if you often use the assist tick when stepping. Something that might seem real groovy and neat in the editor can be super confusing and unintuitive for other people, especially if the song already has perfectly steppable music. I know some people prefer the more DDR style of stepping (double steps, ambiguous steps, steps that barely has anything to do with the music other than being on beat etc.) and sneaking some steps in at points where it makes the chart flow can be pretty good at times, just be aware of how much rhythm you're making up.

Also, regarding the file, I don't think the file is too repetitive at all. However, only following the melody makes the chart a bit empty at times during the middle where, as stated above, you could have made the steps go to some of the drum rolls to fill the empty space. Only following one sound does avoid the potential problem of layering steps too much, making the steps follow too many sounds at once.
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Post #462 · Posted at 2015-07-10 11:45:45pm 10.1 years ago

Offline HealingDMax300
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Quote: Loodee
...DDR style of stepping (double steps, ambiguous steps, steps that barely has anything to do with the music other than being on beat etc.)
Most of the the time, these double steps are just a part of elaborate crossovers and spins that most people just fudge for a better score. js

Post #463 · Posted at 2015-07-11 12:22:22am 10.1 years ago

Offline darkanine
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Quote: Loodee
Please be careful if you're making up your own rhythm, especially if you often use the assist tick when stepping. Something that might seem real groovy and neat in the editor can be super confusing and unintuitive for other people, especially if the song already has perfectly steppable music. I know some people prefer the more DDR style of stepping (double steps, ambiguous steps, steps that barely has anything to do with the music other than being on beat etc.) and sneaking some steps in at points where it makes the chart flow can be pretty good at times, just be aware of how much rhythm you're making up.
I agree entirely with what you said. Adding on to what you said: If you do create your own rhythm, make sure it isn't more complex than the actual song; otherwise it won't go with the song at all. Also, don't put a step where there is no sound to go with the step in the song.

Post #464 · Posted at 2015-07-11 12:52:21am 10.1 years ago

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Last updated: 2015-07-11 12:52am
Okay, I tried.... Dunno if it's good enough.
[Speed Changes] 2nd Entry
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gigadelic (m3rkAb4# R3m!x) - ikaruga_nex

BPM: 180 (?)
CLASSIC: Beginner 4 Light 5 Standard 8 Heavy 10 Challenge -
X: Beginner 6 Light 8 Standard 13 Heavy 16 Challenge -
Okay, now's another boss chart. Don't know if this will turn well but hey, just try and see if it's good. Beware of the BPM changes, you'll know if you know how's the chart on SDVX lol, and there's stop as well. Well, Enjoy. Puppy Face
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Post #465 · Posted at 2015-07-11 01:47:12am 10.1 years ago

Offline chewi
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Quote: Loodee
...DDR style of stepping (double steps, ambiguous steps, steps that barely has anything to do with the music other than being on beat etc.)
Most of the the time, these double steps are just a part of elaborate crossovers and spins that most people just fudge for a better score. js
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Post #466 · Posted at 2015-07-11 02:49:44am 10.1 years ago

Offline xXMokou98Xx
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+5 Ice Crusher
+3 Piano Sonata D No. 4
+2 Let Mom Sleep
+2 La Danse Macabre
+2 Boyfriend A GoGo
+1 A Stranger I Remain

WAS NOT EXPECTING MAPLESTORY IN A SIMFILE CONTEST, THAT WAS NEAT
Ice Crusher [Gameoson] - 19
Techno Syndrome [darkanine] - 14
Piano Sonata D No.4 [KNS-17] - 11
Let Mom Sleep [Spork!] - 9
La Danse Macabre [gameboy573] - 9
Boyfriend A GoGo [vincentw] - 8
DJ Sona - Kinetic [Akira] - 7
A Stranger I Remain [mf32892] - 5
Final Boss (Squid Sisters Ver.) [xXMokou98Xx] - 5
Feel A Thrill [Pandemonium X] - 4
THE NEXT DOOR -INDESTRUCTIBLE- [Lisek] - 4
Shapeshifter (feat. Styles of Beyond) [Gameoson] - 3
Go Shanghai -Maplestory- [Feraligatr] - 3
Reach Out to the Truth [Akira] - 2
Pursuit (Wanting to Find the Truth) [Spirit of Nightmare] - 1
Change of Coast [Silver Spirit] - 1

I haven't heard Go Shanghai in years, that was a nostalgia trip right there.
I'm like...75% done with my file for this week. Might take a while to finish the rest cause of work and stuff over the weekend but it will get done.
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Post #467 · Posted at 2015-07-11 02:55:45am 10.1 years ago

Offline Silverhawke
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Quote: Loodee
the more DDR style of stepping (double steps, ambiguous steps, steps that barely has anything to do with the music other than being on beat etc.)

i think saying this is a little unfair to the good charts they've been putting out recently.

you're making it sound like every ddr chart is shit and things should be like [insert 4 panel dancing game here].
my homepage → silverhawke.xyz

Post #468 · Posted at 2015-07-11 07:49:15am 10.1 years ago

Offline Spirit of Nightmare
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Deflowering the Maidenhead, Displeasuring the Goddess - Cradle of Filth

BPM: 68-310
CLASSIC: Beginner 4 Light 7 Standard 9 Heavy 11 Challenge 13
X-ratings: Beginner 7 Light 10 Standard 12 Heavy 17 Challenge 19
[EXTREME GOTHIC METAL]

Speed changes was the topic... and this is where I felt really mean! This song is a single from Cradle of Filth's latest album Hammer of the Witches which was released yesterday, July 10th! Cutting this song was hard, since it was originally 7 minutes long and had several different parts to it. But anyway... here is one hell of a beast of a song about the world's damnation, that is "Deflowering the Maidenhead, Displeasuring the Goddess"! This judgment has come from on high.

Credits go to Spork! for graphics.

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Post #469 · Posted at 2015-07-11 10:26:50am 10.1 years ago

Offline Loodee
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Quote: Silverhawke
Quote: Loodee
the more DDR style of stepping (double steps, ambiguous steps, steps that barely has anything to do with the music other than being on beat etc.)

i think saying this is a little unfair to the good charts they've been putting out recently.

you're making it sound like every ddr chart is shit and things should be like [insert 4 panel dancing game here].

I guess I am being a bit ignorant here, my bad. It's just the experience that I've had with almost every DDR chart to date, although I'll admit I haven't played the very newest stuff, so I'd be happy to be wrong here. Also as a disclaimer, most of the official ITG charts have the exact problem I described as well, so I guess it should have more fair to have mentioned that as well. Sorry for needlessly going off-topic here Tongue
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Post #470 · Posted at 2015-07-11 10:50:18pm 10.1 years ago

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Post #471 · Posted at 2015-07-11 11:22:23pm 10.1 years ago

Offline mf32892
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"hi"
Quote: Loodee
Quote: Silverhawke
Quote: Loodee
the more DDR style of stepping (double steps, ambiguous steps, steps that barely has anything to do with the music other than being on beat etc.)

i think saying this is a little unfair to the good charts they've been putting out recently.

you're making it sound like every ddr chart is shit and things should be like [insert 4 panel dancing game here].

I guess I am being a bit ignorant here, my bad. It's just the experience that I've had with almost every DDR chart to date, although I'll admit I haven't played the very newest stuff, so I'd be happy to be wrong here. Also as a disclaimer, most of the official ITG charts have the exact problem I described as well, so I guess it should have more fair to have mentioned that as well. Sorry for needlessly going off-topic here Tongue

Regarding the recent official DDR charts, some of them do require doublesteps, but in a couple of sections at most. Dopamine Single :hea; for example has a couple, but I find that it's fun to learn where the double-steps are and them learn the charts accordingly. This learning process takes some time for me that would not be available in the short judging period we have in this contest. The somewhat short time to look at 20-30 files makes it difficult to "learn" any doublesteps/footswitches that might be present in charts.

Anyways, I have my votes:

Final boss (Squid Sisters Ver.) [xXMokou98Xx] +4
Shapeshifter (feat. Styles of Beyond) [Gameoson] +2
Express Love [Vinylyarou] +2
THE NEXT DOOR -INDESTRUCTIBLE- [Lisek] +2
Special Stage [Braeden47] +1
Northern Desert [Silverhawke] +1
Reach out to the Truth [Akira] +1
Techno Syndrome (Mortal Kombat) [darkanine] +1
Let Mom Sleep [Spork!] +1

HMs
Feel a Thrill - [Pandemonium X]
DJ Sona - Kinetic - [Akira]
Gasei Sozai Sono 1 - [CLOUDIO]
Go Shanghai - [Feraligatr]
Ice Crusher - [Gameoson]
Comments:
I'm going to go through all the charts this time around. I'm starting early enough to give feedback.

Boyfriend A GoGo
Light Personally, I feel that Basic charts should primarily be 4th notes. Inexperienced players, especially those without a great sense of rhythm, would have trouble stepping the offbeats in the song that you went to. Yes, I understand they went to the song and stood out a bit, but offbeats are hard to time for some people.
Standard The 8ths here were more fitting in general since this is a difficult chart. Some offbeat 8th streams felt a bit awkward though.
Heavy Not sure if some of the rhythms should have been stepped. For example, starting measure 29, you have these Freeze Arrows seemingly going to the vocals, but then during the second freeze, you switch your focus to the bass, while I'm expecting to go the the vocals still. Measure 47: i think the 8th-16th pattern should be changed to 8th-4th to continue a stream with the following notes. I think it would flow better that way. This would then carry over to the next instance this occurs in the song, too. Measure 53, I feel should have had more 8th notes and less focus on on-beat (4th note) stuff. The 4th jumps didn't really fit that well, in my opnion. I'm not exactly sure what's going on in measure 60 (beat3)-61 (whole measure). Wow this turned out somewhat lengthy. Hopefully this helps a bit.

Change of Coast - This isn't the most interesting song tbh
Light There were quite a few doublesteps here. Normally, doublesteps don't affect me too badly, but there were a decent amount of them that could be revised a bit. Rhythms were alright for the most part. I'd have to go back another time to get more specific as to where things coul dbe improved.
Standard These charts definitely play like keyboard charts. I only play with two fingers: index from each hand, meant to imitate actual pad play. (I don't understand how people play with one hand). Also, I feel like there weren't very many right arrows, lol. I don't know what happened there. The rhythms don't really flow together well especially at the beginning. They get a bit better at the end, but they could use some work. I just don't think this song is catchy or steppable to be completely honest.
Heavy I'm still sticking with my assertion that this isn't a great song to step. There aren't very many rhythms to step. Patterns still need a lot of work; there's still a lot of doublesteps or awkward turns that need to be made if one decides not to doublestep. Also, again, I noticed that the end of the song had very few right arrows as well, I'm not sure why that is.

Dialga's Fight to the Finish - The second half of the song kinda reminds me of "Enter Bowser Jr." lol. Not sure if this is the best song choice though; the song isn't that great
Light I felt that this could have used a bit more Freeze Arrows, but other than that the steps were fine.
Standard The chart was pretty good. The only minor problem would be the Freeze Arrows with 4th note endings (if that makes sense). It's not exactly clear if you're supposed to double-step or not after each one. Even so, it's not too big a deal at this speed.
Heavy Great chart, but again, the song isn't very interesting or catchy.

DJ Sona -Kinetic- - Nice bg video
Light Whoa, why are there so many 8th notes (that death run especially!) Personally, I feel that this chart would be more appropiate as a Standard chart. I don't see any real reason why the Light chart is so difficult.
:dif: This also seems overly difficult for a Standard. I'm wondering what made you want to make a chart with this level of difficulty, for a song that isn't really screaming for hard charts.
Heavy To be honest with you, I liked Standard better than Heavy The beginning of Heavy was good, but as you got to the "exciting" part (for lack of a better term), the rhythms really didn't flow together well.

Express Love
Light I liked it. Good rhythm choices, they weren't erratic or anything. A couple things: at combo 70 (when jumps count as one combo) that Freeze Arrow was unnecessarily long. The song was still going, backbeat going strong, and then you're just standing there. Also, immediately after that long freeze, there were 3 arrows at once. Not sure if this was intentional or not, I'm guessing it probably wasn't.
Standard Huh, there's a stop here, that didn't exist in Light I guess we don't want to trip up beginners. Rhythm selections were good for the most part. There were a few points during the chorus where you almost randomly, stepped the vocals (the 8th parts). I think these rhythms could have been integrated a bit better and smoother.
Heavy Nice chart and rhythm choices! I liked this one. You did a good job. I noticed that there are a few doublesteps that are necessary when transitioning between long streams. They're not too bad though. Probably worth a point or two.

Feel a Thrill
Light Nice moderate chart. Good rhythms
Standard Pretty good too.
Heavy Well stepped as well. Only minor thing is during the 8th-16th-4th-16th-8th runs. Maybe every other set of five arrows, you could add another 4th note inbetween the consecutive 8ths. I feel it would be a bit more fun to play that way. Other than that, this was good.
The only real thing that's going against this file is the repetitive nature of the song.

Final Boss (Squid Sisters Ver.)
Light Nice!
Standard Good too! This chart seems somewhat difficult (more of a 7 than a 6) for the song, so I'm expecting the :Hea: to be pretty difficult.
Heavy Love this too! Personally, I didn't do (or wouldn't have actually done) the spins but those were a pretty nice touch.
Probably getting some points

Gasei Sozai Sono 1 - Personally, I don't know if 200 BPm is appropriate for this song. It's not screaming for such a high BPM. I think 100 would have sufficed.
Light at this 200 BPM, your rhythms and patterns are fine. If this were stepped at 100 BPM, I would've probably lightened up the patterns and rhythms, but it's not, sooo....idk.
Standard I liked the rhythms, but I felt the patterning could have been toned down a bit. There's a lot of twisting (i.e. switching between facing left and right), that seems a bit too difficult for this difficulty level. L-()-D-()-U-R-()-U-R or something like that for the beginning and the end. Overall, this chart is good.
Heavy nice rhythm choices overall. I felt that there could have been a 4th note or two in some of those empty spaces in the charts. I can be a bit more specific if you'd like to know more.

Get Jinxed - decent song.
Light Good!
:dif: Everything was great until the last few triplets of 8ths. The patterning got kinda weird and awkward and required either doublestepping or footswtiches or both to stay facing forward.
Heavy Well, this seemed a lot like Difficult, and maybe even easier than it at times, until the ending "death run" and that one 16th burst.

Go Shanghai - The audio from this song was kind of wierd to me. It wasn't that loud, but it hurt my eardrums for some reason. The song isn't that bad, but there was definitely some surround sound going on there.
Light Not too hard of a Basic chart. Most of the time, I advocate for Basic charts to have too many 8th notes. I am still backing this. The song didn't call too much at all for 8ths in an easy chart.
Standard good chart, but this totally could have been Expert (:heaSmile You rated this a 5: this should be at least a 6, possibly even a 7.
Heavy This is only slightly harder than Standard The only real difference were the 16th trills. I think this is an 8. It's pretty good though.
Challenge I didn't think you'd be able to make something harder than the Heavy that would still be good. but I guess I was wrong. Good job. I liked the patterns on some of the 8th triplets.

Ice Crusher
Light Pretty difficult for a Basic chart. well, at least the 4th-16th-8th parts. Other easier to follow patterns could have been done so newer, less-experienced players could enjoy these section.
Standard Rhythms for individual sections of the song were nice, but I think the transitions between them could use some work. You would start with one pattern and then awkwardly switch your focus after a non-convential amount of measure or repitions of that pattern. At least it felt awkward to me.
Heavy Pretty much the same comments as Standard for this chart. Maybe this cut just has an awkward number of repetitions of rhythms (not 4 or 8 altogether). also, were the Shock Arrows/Mines meant as a distraction?
Challenge Personally, I felt this chart was unnecessary. This song isn't particularly intense, nor does it have a consistent amount of difficult rhythms.

INTERCEPTION - Town in Upheaval--- the charts also started a bit early, IMO I feel like you should have waited a bit to start all the charts.
Light Could use a lot of fixing up. There's some awkward patterning that could be fixed up and some of the chosen rhythms are not the easiest for newer players to follow. For example, the first portion of steps were relatively simple (but could still use some work), then after a long freeze jump, there's a pretty massive difficulty spike (for a Basic chart at least). I think most of the rhythms should be on what theoretically would be 4ths at 90 BPM and the occasional "8th" at 90 BPM. The difficulty could be much more balanced.
Standard Rhythms you chose were better in general, but there were some empty spaces between rhythms that could have some 4th notes in between as filler. Patterns again cause doublestepping if you play on pad. I can point some out if you want via PM. (Do you play keyboard? Do you play pad at all?)
Heavy It seems very evident that you don't play pad DDR. Many of these patterns here are atrocious for pad players to play. This is probably one of the reasons that your files haven't been getting any points. When stepping charts for pad players (which virtually all of us are), you should try "ghost-stepping" under the table, imagine that there's an imaginary dance pad under your table or desk where you step (or just use your index fingers on the desk/table). Try to make it so that you don't have to step on two different arrows with the same foot/finger.
Rhythm choices don't fit together well as a whole, nor individually really. i can try to give an example of how I would step this song, if you'd like, but that's only if you want to see what a chart that flows better looks like.

La Danse Macabre
Light Good chart
Standard Good chart, too!
Heavy Pretty good, but some of the transitions between your chosen rhythms didn't work too great in my opinion.

Let Mom Sleep
Light Good chart for the most part. The 8ths made sense, but I guess this chart is a bit on the harder side in terms of Basic charts, so I guesss it's all right.
Standard Pretty good too. the first time the lyrics go "would you stop" etc. I felt that the continuous 8th streams for the duration of the "vocals" was a bit off. It just didn't feel right.
Heavy Generally good.
Challenge I liked this the best of the rest of them.

Northern Desert - Again, song choice isn't the best...I do remember this song from the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Series. Also, what is it with you and non 4/4 time signatures?
Light Nicely done
Standard Good rhythms.
Heavy Flawless

Piano Sonata D No 4
Light This should be a 5. Some of the rhythms are a bit hard to follow for a 4, imo
Standard This should probably be a 7 in DDR terms (old-scale, of course). This was good aside from the potential underrating.
Heavy This chart felt kinda awkward to play. The rhythms in this song seem so irregular and they're a bit hard to follow.

Pursuit (Wanting To Find The Truth)
Light Something was definitely wrong in this chart. For some reason there was a slowdown, (I don't know if that was supposed to be there) and every after the slowdown didn't make sense at all, especially the 8ths, which I also felt should have been reserved for Standard and up.
Standard this was decent. I think it went well with the song. I'm still wondering how you got a 12 out of this song
Heavy decent, too. The streams didn't feel completely necessary. Maybe they could've been broken down into streams of 15, maybe?
Challenge totally unneeded, imo

Reach out to the Truth
Light This was so weird. From the beginning, it felt like this song had blue note syndrome and that the 4ths were technically 8th notes "offbeat". Then the chart turned on beat. I don't know if I was teh only one who noticed this. The chart was good, assuming I misheard the song.
Standard Why is this song so weird?!?!?! It still feels like 8th note syndrome. I felt the same way with that Asaki song from the BEMANI Stadium event. I was honestly as confused at this as I was then. Other than that, this was good.
Heavy Still confused a bit. Chart was good though. Maybe it has to do with the song cut...

Shapeshifter
Light (y)
Standard Great!
Heavy Dammit, Great on the last step. Great chart!
Challenge Good too

Special Stage (Sonic)
Light The song is very noticeably offsync. Chart was decent. A bit monotonous, but decent otherwise, I guess
Standard Decent too.
there could have been a couple more steps between following the main synths
Heavy Actually was pretty good. The rhythms were good and patterns weren't bad, but they could use a little more flavoring (i.e. not facing the same direction for too long.)

Techno Syndrome
Light Pretty decent. It should probably be rated a 4, though
Standard This was extremely similar to Light in terms of difficulty. i think you should find a way to make Standard stand out a bit from Light a bit more. What you have is good, but I think it should be upped in difficulty just a bit. I noticed this with your "A Sky Full of Stars" file as well.
Heavy This was good, too. I felt like this could've used a bit more in a Challenge possibly.

The Bionicle Music
Light Pretty decent chart. It seems like you made this boss-ish. This might not have needed the 8ths but, I guess it's all right.
Standard First thing: this should be rated an 8. Probably around halfway through the song, the patterns started getting uncomfortable to play (i.e. awkward turns of the body) especially with those crossover 16ths followed by 2 ups or 2 downs. It seems evident that you may be a keyboard player and not a pad player.
Heavy There was a lot going on here. some of these patterns, were a bit awkward; I wasn't sure whether to foot switch them or just keep stepping with the same foot. I ended up having to doublestep uncomfortably.

The Next Door
Light Wow. Unbelievably easy...Good, but unbelievably easy.
Standard I like it Smile
Heavy Great! Only thing is that I felt that som eof th estreams should have been continuous instead of leaving breaks to mirror the breaks in the vocals.

Zip - Not sure I like this song. It's a bit boring, imo.
Light good
Standard Only weird thing I saw were the 8th streams of 8 notes. Otherwise, I liked it.
Heavy more of an 8 in my opinion. It wasn't bad, but it didn't stand out as great either.


Totals
Ice Crusher [Gameoson] - 20
Techno Syndrome [darkanine] - 15
Piano Sonata D No.4 [KNS-17] - 12
Let Mom Sleep [Spork!] - 11
Final Boss (Squid Sisters Ver.) [xXMokou98Xx] - 10
La Danse Macabre [gameboy573] - 10
Boyfriend A GoGo [vincentw] - 9
DJ Sona - Kinetic [Akira] - 7
THE NEXT DOOR -INDESTRUCTIBLE- [Lisek] - 6
Shapeshifter (feat. Styles of Beyond) [Gameoson] - 6
A Stranger I Remain [mf32892] - 6
Feel A Thrill [Pandemonium X] - 4
Reach Out to the Truth [Akira] - 3
Go Shanghai -Maplestory- [Feraligatr] - 3
Express Love [Vinylyarou] - 2
Special Stage [Braeden47] - 2
Pursuit (Wanting to Find the Truth) [Spirit of Nightmare] - 2
Northern Desert [Silverhawke] - 1
Bionicle Music [Damox] - 1
Zip [Astroman129] - 1
Enter Bowser Jr. [mf32892] - 1
Dialga's Fight to the Finish [Silverhawke] - 1
Change of Coast [Silver Spirit] - 1
INTERCEPTION - Town in Upheaval [SokDion] - 1

Jeez, I have almost everything italicized or bolded in the totals. I agree that file quality is getting better in general.
My files are almost done as well. I'm just missing graphics. Be prepared for utter confusion (ok maybe it won't be that bad...)
Check out my YouTube channel! (Playstyle DDR videos) : http://www.youtube.com/user/barrendon649?feature=watch

Post #472 · Posted at 2015-07-11 11:59:02pm 10.1 years ago

Offline Gameoson
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955 Posts
United States
Reg. 2014-03-03

3DS Friend Code: 3969-4495-2046
Quote: mf32892
Ice Crusher
Challenge Personally, I felt this chart was unnecessary. This song isn't particularly intense
I'm going to have to disagree; this song feels very intense to me and I wanted the chart to reflect that (while not BS-ing the chart too much).

Although I will agree that Shapeshifter was the better file. Funny how the file I think will do better actually does worse 90% of the time. Laughing Out Loud

Post #473 · Posted at 2015-07-12 12:23:43am 10.1 years ago

Offline brunobg24
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387 Posts
Peru
Reg. 2012-12-24

"i got the eepy 24/7"
[Speed Changes]
http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202015/%5BSpeed%20Changes%5D%20-%20DUE%20TOMORROW/%5BSpeed%20Changes%5D%20-%20DUE%20TOMORROW-jacket.png
DUE TOMORROW / Mr.T

BPM: 100-400
Old Scale Ratings: Beginner 3 Light 6 Standard 9 Heavy 11 Challenge 13
X-Scale Ratings: Beginner 5 Light 8 Standard 13 Heavy 16 Challenge 18

Check out my YouTube channel with stuff related to BEMANI and music games!
Check my simfiles in this thread!
Latest simfiles on Z-i-V:
https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202020/R.I.P/R.I.P-jacket.png https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202020/Dual%20Bladez/Dual%20Bladez-jacket.png https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202020/amaterasu/amaterasu-jacket.png https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202020/Say%20So/Say%20So-jacket.png https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Battle%20Royale%202020/Fin.ArcDeaR/Fin.ArcDeaR-jacket.png

Post #474 · Posted at 2015-07-12 12:31:55am 10.1 years ago

Offline Silver Spirit
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6,762 Posts
United States
Reg. 2008-09-14

Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-2249-7707-5592
"i was born at a very young age"
Thank you for the constructive criticism, mf. I'll keep it in mind for next time I have time to make a file, as I ended up without enough time this week to really sit down and work on one (plus i don't have the confidence i would have made something decent, anyway).

Votes will be coming... either tonight or tomorrow morning.

Post #475 · Posted at 2015-07-12 12:52:51am 10.1 years ago

Offline HealingDMax300
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696 Posts
United States
Reg. 2012-12-01

May I join for a few rounds starting the next one?

Post #476 · Posted at 2015-07-12 01:46:36am 10.1 years ago

Offline Gameoson
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955 Posts
United States
Reg. 2014-03-03

3DS Friend Code: 3969-4495-2046
https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202015/%5BSpeed%20Changes%5D%20-%20D/%5BSpeed%20Changes%5D%20-%20D-jacket.png
D / Eagle

Beginner 2/3 Light 4/6 Standard 7/10 Heavy 9/14 Challenge 11/16

Not to be confused with vincentw's submission, D2.

Post #477 · Posted at 2015-07-12 03:48:23am 10.1 years ago

Offline brunobg24
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387 Posts
Peru
Reg. 2012-12-24

"i got the eepy 24/7"
Votes:

+5 Shapeshifter (feat. Styles of Beyond) [Gameoson] (Also very good song, I'm in love with it <3)
+5 A Stranger I Remain [mf32892]
+3 Techno Syndrome [darkanine]
+1 Get Jinxed [Vinylyarou]
+1 DJ SONA -Kinetic- [Akira]

Totals:

Ice Crusher [Gameoson] - 20
Techno Syndrome [darkanine] - 18
Piano Sonata D No.4 [KNS-17] - 12
A Stranger I Remain [mf32892] - 11
Let Mom Sleep [Spork!] - 11
Shapeshifter (feat. Styles of Beyond) [Gameoson] - 11
Final Boss (Squid Sisters Ver.) [xXMokou98Xx] - 10
La Danse Macabre [gameboy573] - 10
Boyfriend A GoGo [vincentw] - 9
DJ SONA -Kinetic- [Akira] - 8
THE NEXT DOOR -INDESTRUCTIBLE- [Lisek] - 6
Feel A Thrill [Pandemonium X] - 4
Reach Out to the Truth [Akira] - 3
Go Shanghai -Maplestory- [Feraligatr] - 3
Express Love [Vinylyarou] - 2
Special Stage [Braeden47] - 2
Pursuit (Wanting to Find the Truth) [Spirit of Nightmare] - 2
Bionicle Music [Damox] - 1
Change of Coast [Silver Spirit] - 1
Dialga's Fight to the Finish [Silverhawke] - 1
Enter Bowser Jr. [mf32892] - 1
Get Jinxed [Vinylyarou] - 1
INTERCEPTION - Town in Upheaval [SokDion] - 1
Northern Desert [Silverhawke] - 1
Zip [Astroman129] - 1
Check out my YouTube channel with stuff related to BEMANI and music games!
Check my simfiles in this thread!
Latest simfiles on Z-i-V:
https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202020/R.I.P/R.I.P-jacket.png https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202020/Dual%20Bladez/Dual%20Bladez-jacket.png https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202020/amaterasu/amaterasu-jacket.png https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202020/Say%20So/Say%20So-jacket.png https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Battle%20Royale%202020/Fin.ArcDeaR/Fin.ArcDeaR-jacket.png

Post #478 · Posted at 2015-07-12 04:13:04am 10.1 years ago

Offline Akira
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160 Posts
Spain
Reg. 2007-06-17

"The S is silent."

Last updated: 2015-07-12 04:22am
@mf32892 Good thing someone still cares about Light and Standard . You should see Reach Out's Beginner for the lulz

But i'll give care with those now, haha
SIGNATURE

Post #479 · Posted at 2015-07-12 05:58:27am 10.1 years ago

Offline mf32892
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858 Posts
United States
Reg. 2014-01-01

"hi"
Normally I don't do from Basic through Expert/Challenge in terms of feedback. I started reviewing files early, so I had the time (unlike last week where I didn't even play all the files) glad to see people are reading their feedback and that they appreciate it

Anyways, here's my two files (click on pictures)

http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202015/%5BSpeed%20Changes%5D%20-%20Hungarian%20Dances%20No.5/%5BSpeed%20Changes%5D%20-%20Hungarian%20Dances%20No.5-jacket.png

BPM: 35-156
BPM Changes: I'm not going to list them. There's sooooooo many that I really don't want to keep count.
Ratings: Light 5 / Standard 7 / Heavy 10
X-Ratings: Light 7 / Standard 10 / Heavy 15
These ratings are really only that high because of the gimmicks.
I made these graphics (for once!)
My song choice here is a bit unorthodox, isn't it? it only totally embodies this theme.

http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/Z-I-v%20Summer%20Contest%202015/%5BSpeed%20Changes%5D%20-%20Bassdrop%20Freaks/%5BSpeed%20Changes%5D%20-%20Bassdrop%20Freaks-jacket.png

BPM 44.75-179
BPM Changes: 89.5-179-89.5-stop-stop-179-89.5-179-89.5-179-stop-stop-stop-44.75
Ratings: Light 6 / Standard 8 / Heavy 10
X-ratings: Light 8 / Standard 12 / Heavy 15

Graphics: Lord Toon
CUSTOM Zip has .mp4 video
Check out my YouTube channel! (Playstyle DDR videos) : http://www.youtube.com/user/barrendon649?feature=watch

Post #480 · Posted at 2015-07-12 06:30:28am 10.1 years ago

Offline vincentw
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697 Posts
Indonesia
Reg. 2013-12-23

"cuppa"

Last updated: 2015-07-12 11:25am
mf32892, thanks so much for your feedback. I'm going to reply to your comments a bit now:

Quote: Light
Personally, I feel that Basic charts should primarily be 4th notes. Inexperienced players, especially those without a great sense of rhythm, would have trouble stepping the offbeats in the song that you went to. Yes, I understand they went to the song and stood out a bit, but offbeats are hard to time for some people.
This is a bit difficult for me because the song really is begging for offbeats. I've compensated enough in Beginner, and besides, by the time players get to level 4, it's a good idea (IMO) to introduce them to offbeat patterns. Might be slightly higher for you, though.
Heh, I used to have the same thought as you, but then I did see a few Light charts with offbeats and they are really good so I thought why not.

Quote: Standard
The 8ths here were more fitting in general since this is a difficult chart. Some offbeat 8th streams felt a bit awkward though.
Alright, thanks.

Quote: Heavy, M29
You have these Freeze Arrows seemingly going to the vocals, but then during the second freeze, you switch your focus to the bass, while I'm expecting to go the vocals still.
I've never intended the Heavy chart to follow the vocals; I have Standard for that very reason. Sorry for the confusion.

Quote: Heavy,M47
I think the 8th-16th pattern should be changed to 8th-4th to continue a stream with the following notes. I think it would flow better that way. This would then carry over to the next instance this occurs in the song, too.
Again, not following the vocals. This time, I tried to follow the trumpets (I think).

Quote: Heavy,M53
I feel should have had more 8th notes and less focus on on-beat (4th note) stuff. The 4th jumps didn't really fit that well, in my opinion.
On my first times listening to the song, I thought that there isn't much going on there so "4ths it is then" since there are cymbals there. I hear a bit of background noises now, but I still prefer just going with 4ths here. A load of 8ths there will be confusing, for me at least.

Quote: Heavy,M60~61
I'm not exactly sure what's going on.
Yeah, I feel like that section is quite confusing to step as well. I might do something like this instead:

aaaa(J)ump, (s)tep
aaaa60..2...3...4...61..2...3...4...
aaaaJ---s-J---s---J---J---J---s-sss-


but I did do that pattern near the end of the song, so I opt for a bit of variety and mix a lot of stuffs. But I think you were right; there are some things that could be revised to better suit the song.

Thanks again!


For those who like data, the spreadsheet now has 2 variants of summaries (the same as last year's btw):
- Basic sum: Lists the amount of points (or combined points if you did 2) for each week, side-by-side. Overall value is the total. Unfortunately, because people are allowed 2 files per week, I can't list the points for them separately and you get a colour scale (more points = darker cell colour) instead of the usual gold-silver-bronze. Sorry.
- Votes per voter: The same as above, but the number of points is divided by the number of voters (minus one if you voted). So a value of 1.00 means that on average, a voter gave you +1 for that week. The maximum each week is 10.00 (you submit two files, and all voters gave +5 to both of your files in a week). To get the overall value (A), add all of the values, and divide by the number of files you submitted. The maximum overall value is 5.00.
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