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Post #4601 · Posted at 2012-06-21 05:53:05am 13 years ago

Offline SSGotenksUFO
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What exactly is this showing? How is Love is the Power rumored from this shot? I see nothing but gray on white. Confused

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Post #4602 · Posted at 2012-06-21 05:56:49am 13 years ago

Offline dominatorstrangeman8
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"Pls"
I see Trip machine Evolution & Paranoia Revolution, But I can't seem to make out that third one.

I really don't know
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Post #4603 · Posted at 2012-06-21 06:01:06am 13 years ago

Offline Tyma
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Quote: Arctic Wolves
I don't really see "Love is the Power" at all in the jacket closeup. Since none of the other 2ndMIX OST bonus songs have appeared in any form here, if it is Love is the Power, I'd bet it's not a mix we've heard. But the text is really, really unclear.

I think Love Is The Power is pretty much the only educated guess we can make at this point?

The original song was a functional "Extra Stage" that played during the credits. The steps are playable, and have step grades, but there's no scoring, and you can't fail the song. Some of the old Beatmania games from that era did the same thing, but with shorter songs.

I don't like "guessing songs", but given that :

* Paranoia and Trip Machine showed up as Boss Songs
* The game has no credits sequence yet
* 2nd Mix Mode gives Maniac players 2 fewer stages than X3 Mode, and there's no reason for Maniac players to play it, except to play the new Boss Songs

It seems reasonable to speculate that entering 2nd Mix mode and beating or AAing the Boss Songs (which is apparantly quite hard) might yield the game's true (playable) ending? It's a very "80s Japanese Game" thing to do.

Post #4604 · Posted at 2012-06-21 06:18:24am 13 years ago

Offline hyper kitten
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Rating Estimation :

Trip Machine : 16
Paranoia : 17

Videos are on youtube.
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Post #4605 · Posted at 2012-06-21 06:20:52am 13 years ago

Offline 3x3qui3l
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Rating Estimation :

Trip Machine : 16
Paranoia : 17

Videos are on youtube.

Hope they will be able to play in X3 part
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Post #4606 · Posted at 2012-06-21 07:07:42am 13 years ago

Offline AeronPeryton
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"Give me a steady beat."
If the remixes of PARANOiA and TRIP MACHINE were the ones on the new 2ndMIX soundtrack, Love Is The Power being the third mystery song would make sense. But they're not.

Post #4607 · Posted at 2012-06-21 07:26:13am 13 years ago

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Quote: AeronPeryton
If the remixes of PARANOiA and TRIP MACHINE were the ones on the new 2ndMIX soundtrack, Love Is The Power being the third mystery song would make sense. But they're not.

This.

The 3rd song is most likely a new song we haven't yet heard.

"Little Susie dang sweet fell on a cactus, she did, whoooooie!"

Post #4608 · Posted at 2012-06-21 07:43:48am 13 years ago

Offline TensaiKashou
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But I'm guessing that the final song is the original LOVE IS THE POWER, not the remix.

As much as I want the final song to be an ultra-final EES instead, it just seems like the best fit to the jacket text.
nice.

Post #4609 · Posted at 2012-06-21 07:51:09am 13 years ago

Offline dominatorstrangeman8
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"Pls"
eh, I'd kinda like to have MAX 300 Takamatt min Remix on here BUT, we all know that's highly unlikely Sad
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Post #4610 · Posted at 2012-06-21 07:55:26am 13 years ago

Offline G4m3pr0
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Does anyone think the 9-foot rating for Trip Machine Evolution Heavy was a mistake? The people who gave it that rating are almost certainly the same guys who credited Kung Fu Fighting to "Bus Stop Carl Dolglas".

Post #4611 · Posted at 2012-06-21 07:57:31am 13 years ago

Offline MilkChan
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I'd rather that DDR cater to people who actually want to be able to play all of the content. As it is, there's few good bridges to songs in the 17 or 18 range. The difficulty just spikes hard and there's almost no songs to get you up to there. Has anyone that's good enough to beat and do well at Fascination MAXX gotten to that point with ONLY official DDR charts? I'm sure there's maybe a few, but most players have gotten outside help from Edits or simulators or ITG. What's the point of having insanely difficult stuff if the game doesn't prepare the player for it? I've fallen away from DDR a lot lately, and at my peak I only could consistently beat the Extreme era boss songs (not counting Paranoia Survivor Max Challenge), and still only on good days. How is someone like me supposed to jump to 17s when the jump from 13 to 15 is already pretty enormous itself? DDR has seated itself in the range of 13 or lower in most songs. It's arguably always followed an easier curve (relatively speaking when you consider every Heavy/Challenge chart). Maybe if there were more 14s and 15s on Heavy that have extreme Challenge charts, I'd be okay with it, but there need to be more of those 14s and 15s in the first place.

IIDX has the same issue where theres a lack of songs to bridge the gap between hard and really hard. Nobody complains about that they just do it.


DDR is much more friendly than IIDX and the ratings blend nicely. Theres no overly hard chart that you need ITG or customs to get to sans vdo. I did it fine. People can suck it up and get stamina.

Post #4612 · Posted at 2012-06-21 08:11:19am 13 years ago

Offline TsukiyoX
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Quote: MilkChan
Quote: MarsPhoenix
I'd rather that DDR cater to people who actually want to be able to play all of the content. As it is, there's few good bridges to songs in the 17 or 18 range. The difficulty just spikes hard and there's almost no songs to get you up to there. Has anyone that's good enough to beat and do well at Fascination MAXX gotten to that point with ONLY official DDR charts? I'm sure there's maybe a few, but most players have gotten outside help from Edits or simulators or ITG. What's the point of having insanely difficult stuff if the game doesn't prepare the player for it? I've fallen away from DDR a lot lately, and at my peak I only could consistently beat the Extreme era boss songs (not counting Paranoia Survivor Max Challenge), and still only on good days. How is someone like me supposed to jump to 17s when the jump from 13 to 15 is already pretty enormous itself? DDR has seated itself in the range of 13 or lower in most songs. It's arguably always followed an easier curve (relatively speaking when you consider every Heavy/Challenge chart). Maybe if there were more 14s and 15s on Heavy that have extreme Challenge charts, I'd be okay with it, but there need to be more of those 14s and 15s in the first place.

IIDX has the same issue where theres a lack of songs to bridge the gap between hard and really hard. Nobody complains about that they just do it.


DDR is much more friendly than IIDX and the ratings blend nicely. Theres no overly hard chart that you need ITG or customs to get to sans vdo. I did it fine. People can suck it up and get stamina.

As for the bridge in SuperNova of playing 17 footers/FaXX back then, there were 5 16 footers and plenty of 15s to eventually get to playing FaXX well, apparently. As for stepping 200 BPM, it was either FELM or ITG

Post #4613 · Posted at 2012-06-21 08:38:29am 13 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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Quote: G4m3pr0
Does anyone think the 9-foot rating for Trip Machine Evolution Heavy was a mistake? The people who gave it that rating are almost certainly the same guys who credited Kung Fu Fighting to "Bus Stop Carl Dolglas".

I feel the ratings are merely symbolic. We all know that 9 footers were never "Evolutionary;" they're just doing it for effect. TRIP MACHINE EVOLUTION is harder than any other song in 2ndMIX, and PARANOiA Revolution is harder than that, that's all it indicated. Tongue
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Post #4614 · Posted at 2012-06-21 08:42:05am 13 years ago

Offline G4m3pr0
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Quote: Arctic Wolves
Quote: G4m3pr0
Does anyone think the 9-foot rating for Trip Machine Evolution Heavy was a mistake? The people who gave it that rating are almost certainly the same guys who credited Kung Fu Fighting to "Bus Stop Carl Dolglas".

I feel the ratings are merely symbolic. We all know that 9 footers were never "Evolutionary;" they're just doing it for effect. TRIP MACHINE EVOLUTION is harder than any other song in 2ndMIX, and PARANOiA Revolution is harder than that, that's all it indicated. Tongue

I mean, Trip Machine Revolution Heavy is rated 9 when it clearly should be a 10.

Post #4615 · Posted at 2012-06-21 08:44:28am 13 years ago

Offline MarsPhoenix
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I guess my point is that (if I counted correctly) X3 has 73 charts with 13-foot ratings and 23 charts with 14-foot ratings (with 5 of them being just X-Special charts and a few others being questionable, such as CHAOS Heavy). That's not a whole lot of variety when you're starting to get to higher difficulties for a game with around 500 available songs.

Post #4616 · Posted at 2012-06-21 08:48:12am 13 years ago

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Quote: G4m3pr0
Quote: Arctic Wolves
Quote: G4m3pr0
Does anyone think the 9-foot rating for Trip Machine Evolution Heavy was a mistake? The people who gave it that rating are almost certainly the same guys who credited Kung Fu Fighting to "Bus Stop Carl Dolglas".

I feel the ratings are merely symbolic. We all know that 9 footers were never "Evolutionary;" they're just doing it for effect. TRIP MACHINE EVOLUTION is harder than any other song in 2ndMIX, and PARANOiA Revolution is harder than that, that's all it indicated. Tongue

I mean, Trip Machine Revolution Heavy is rated 9 when it clearly should be a 10.

You aren't meant to take them at "face value", they are reflecting that they are the 2nd hardest and the hardest song in the mode, respectively. One can expect them to receive a proper rating whenever it's unlocked in X3 mode.

Post #4617 · Posted at 2012-06-21 09:05:26am 13 years ago

Offline AeronPeryton
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"Give me a steady beat."
I agree with the part about the 2ndMIX Mode ratings being symbolic. However given their track record, don't expect an X scale rating to be any more accurate than the classic scale.

Post #4618 · Posted at 2012-06-21 10:42:59am 13 years ago

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I agree with the part about the 2ndMIX Mode ratings being symbolic. However given their track record, don't expect an X scale rating to be any more accurate than the classic scale.

(Looks at Under the Sky and Make it Better)

Yup. Couldn't agree more.

Post #4619 · Posted at 2012-06-21 11:31:45am 13 years ago

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Just Video Trip Machine Evolution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6L0EIMTtGI Genre Song Drum n Bass

The Start messaure 1?

Post #4620 · Posted at 2012-06-21 12:40:26pm 13 years ago

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Quote: DarkFeline
Quote: AeronPeryton
I agree with the part about the 2ndMIX Mode ratings being symbolic. However given their track record, don't expect an X scale rating to be any more accurate than the classic scale.

(Looks at Under the Sky and Make it Better)

Yup. Couldn't agree more.

Only two songs (that were first released with an 8-year-apart difference) that no one plays hardly represent the track record of anything. I mean, does a rating that is just one number off breaks the game that heavily for you? It's ok to point them out whenever they happen because well, it is part of how "polished" the game is, but I see this "ratings are off" comment way too many times to think that it's really that bad of a problem. Specially when there are more important concerns in the game, like the severe lack of Let Them Move with just one unlock left. Maybe it's that mysterious final unlock. I'm not losing hope.
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