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Post #4301 · Posted at 2012-06-05 05:53:16am 13 years ago

Offline G4m3pr0
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To me, Tohoku EVOLVED is the MAX. (period) of the modern era. Like MAX. (period) did at the time, Tohoku EVOLVED has some elements that we've never seen in DDR charts. Both have uber-fast sections that have to be read, for instance, and both were remixed by Yuichi Asami using similar aliases (2MB for MAX. (period) and 2.1MB Underground for Tohoku EVOLVED). And both are tributes--MAX. (period) for DDR and Tohoku EVOLVED for earthquake and tsunami victims in Japan. That's not to mention the extreme difficulty of both songs.

Post #4302 · Posted at 2012-06-05 06:25:50am 13 years ago

Offline AeronPeryton
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"Give me a steady beat."
I like that assessment.

Post #4303 · Posted at 2012-06-05 07:55:34pm 13 years ago

Offline EarthPluto
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"For Aiur~!"
http://s1-03.twitpicproxy.com/photos/full/592956573.jpg?key=854480

Someone has passed it about an hour ago. TAKASKE passed it.

Post #4304 · Posted at 2012-06-05 07:58:52pm 13 years ago

Offline bright_th12
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Wait, is this double play? Shocked
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Post #4305 · Posted at 2012-06-05 07:59:43pm 13 years ago

Offline DDRmaster2007
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Wow!!! Nice record!

It seems double.
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Post #4306 · Posted at 2012-06-05 08:04:25pm 13 years ago

Offline EarthPluto
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"For Aiur~!"
Yes it is. Big Grin
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Post #4307 · Posted at 2012-06-05 08:11:02pm 13 years ago

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Damn, now that's one hell of a workout. Now we wait for a singles pass.
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Post #4308 · Posted at 2012-06-05 10:01:28pm 13 years ago

Offline Pumpkinetics
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Quote: G4m3pr0
To me, Tohoku EVOLVED is the MAX. (period) of the modern era. Like MAX. (period) did at the time, Tohoku EVOLVED has some elements that we've never seen in DDR charts. Both have uber-fast sections that have to be read, for instance, and both were remixed by Yuichi Asami using similar aliases (2MB for MAX. (period) and 2.1MB Underground for Tohoku EVOLVED). And both are tributes--MAX. (period) for DDR and Tohoku EVOLVED for earthquake and tsunami victims in Japan. That's not to mention the extreme difficulty of both songs.

Not to mention that there's no plans to bring either of them to western audiences. Devil

Post #4309 · Posted at 2012-06-05 10:52:22pm 13 years ago

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Quote: EarthPluto
http://s1-03.twitpicproxy.com/photos/full/592956573.jpg?key=854480

Someone has passed it about an hour ago. TAKASKE passed it.

How max combo can be 626 if this video shows that someone failed with 646 combos?

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Post #4310 · Posted at 2012-06-05 10:54:00pm 13 years ago

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It was on doubles
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Post #4311 · Posted at 2012-06-05 10:54:11pm 13 years ago

Offline tsugaru7reveng
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The icon next to the jacket in the results screen is your answer.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Dr.D.

Post #4312 · Posted at 2012-06-05 10:54:49pm 13 years ago

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I think it's been confirmed Tohoku EVOLVED does have differing versions, chart wise. Check these two images:

http://twitpic.com/9t3i26

http://twitpic.com/9t3i0o

The last jump?

Post #4313 · Posted at 2012-06-05 10:58:04pm 13 years ago

Offline SupremeX
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Quote: Dr.D
It was on doubles

Understand.
It seens that doubles can be easier that single mode.
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Post #4314 · Posted at 2012-06-05 11:02:09pm 13 years ago

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Quote: al2k4
I think it's been confirmed Tohoku EVOLVED does have differing versions, chart wise. Check these two images:

http://twitpic.com/9t3i26

http://twitpic.com/9t3i0o

The last jump?

Dafuq!? They're just torturing players... when you think the jump is UP+LEFT while actually it's UP+RIGHT... then you miss that jump.

Imagine how hurtful is that.

So we have to react for the last step... not memorize.
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Post #4315 · Posted at 2012-06-05 11:11:39pm 13 years ago

Offline donosean
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Quote: Silverhawke
Quote: al2k4
I think it's been confirmed Tohoku EVOLVED does have differing versions, chart wise. Check these two images:

http://twitpic.com/9t3i26

http://twitpic.com/9t3i0o

The last jump?

Dafuq!? They're just torturing players... when you think the jump is UP+LEFT while actually it's UP+RIGHT... then you miss that jump.

Imagine how hurtful is that.

So we have to react for the last step... not memorize.

Or just do a jump+knee-plant to hit the left-up-right arrows together Very Happy

But really, the double chart was passed before the single chart? Shocked

Post #4316 · Posted at 2012-06-05 11:12:46pm 13 years ago

Offline Zowayix
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THAT IS JUST EVIL. Evil

Edit: And apparently both players in the photos were good enough to get that far with only 10-11 greats. Wow. Shocked

Post #4317 · Posted at 2012-06-05 11:14:56pm 13 years ago

Offline seishinbyou
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Yeah, I was about to say,

Does the last jump change randomly? I get the impression it scrolls by *really* fast and is randomized or is one of a few versions chosen randomly. It sounds like only the last jump is different.

http://aaronin.jp/shashin/tohoku.jpg

http://aaronin.jp/shashin/tohoku2.jpg

http://aaronin.jp/shashin/tohoku3.jpg
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Post #4318 · Posted at 2012-06-05 11:21:50pm 13 years ago

Offline Zowayix
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It scrolls at 1020 bpm as calculated earlier. Fastest scrolling speed ever, and you have to read a random jump with a maximum of 0.47 seconds reaction time (less time than the opening of Pluto Relinquish). That's on 1x; on 1.5x the reaction time drops to 0.31 seconds, barely half that of PR's opening.

But are we sure that one of the players didn't have the chart on Left? It would produce the same result, although it's very unlikely.
Never mind, turning Left on would show an icon in the bottom of the screen, and there is no such icon.

If this is only the first of four new songs (as conjectured by the soundtrack), I can't imagine what the other three would be like. Maybe they're forced EES on Shuffle? Dead

I hope a video comes up soon; I can't really imagine someone managing to take a photo of the last step with that much precision, making it look like a screenshot from a video.

Post #4319 · Posted at 2012-06-05 11:31:49pm 13 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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That's just evil. I guess Tohoku EVOLVED is still an EVOLVED song at heart. Tongue But, if that's the only change, I can't imagine they'd allow the different versions to be selectable when it's unlocked, so they'll probably just pick one? Also, yes, those three mystery OST spots are still completely unknown.
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Post #4320 · Posted at 2012-06-06 12:02:16am 13 years ago

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I think it's more likely that Tohoku Evolved's ending will continue to be random when it's fully unlocked.

roppongi Evolved had its four versions selectable because they needed separate record data since their charts were completely different and had a different number of steps. When it was locked to EES, you could tell which version you were playing if you memorized the world record for each version and looked at the data on the "Encore Extra Stage" intro screen. The gimmick is more like "Selecting this song really randomly picks one of four songs that happen to have the same beginning". In addition, the EES results screen revealed which version it was on the results screen.

Tohoku Evolved does not use separate record data and the charts are virtually identical with the same number of steps. Since it uses the same record data, you cannot tell which version it is using the intro screen. The gimmick is more like "This is a single song with the ending step randomized, not a set of different songs". The EES results screen does not reveal which version it was.

Ignore all the bottom statements if you don't want to read mindless random speculation:
Here's what I think the other three songs might be, assuming they have evil gimmicks and are locked to EES:
1. A song that, on EES, is forced on Shuffle. If this was ITG, I would have said Blender.
2. A multi-version chart with actually random stops. Each version looks the same on the screen but the stops are in different places.
3. A song that begins with a set of Shock Arrows 0.1 seconds after it starts, followed by a stream of now invisible arrows. At the end, there's a jump and a freeze arrow to sound like the song's over, but 5 seconds later, there's a final set of Shock Arrows at 9001 bpm. $800 boom anyone?
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