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Post #4281 · Posted at 2012-06-04 10:02:35am 13 years ago

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Looking at the score and using some calculations, Tohoku EvolvedHeavy has exactly 673 steps and freeze arrows combined. Combining the 455 combo video and the video with CUT1 on (and freezes and jumps on), there are at least 17 freeze arrows in the song, making the highest possible max combo 656. It's probably fewer than that, unless there are absolutely no freeze arrows in the second half of the song bar the ending stop.

(Compare Valkyrie dimensionHeavy's total of 671 steps and freezes, consisting of 632 steps and 39 freezes.)

Post #4282 · Posted at 2012-06-04 11:28:49am 13 years ago

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Found in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApCPkP6eBAI Cut1 Frezze/Jump On

Post #4283 · Posted at 2012-06-04 11:49:09am 13 years ago

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Found in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApCPkP6eBAI Cut1 Frezze/Jump On

That was posted in the last page.

Post #4284 · Posted at 2012-06-04 02:59:41pm 13 years ago

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Quote: Zowayix
Looking at the score and using some calculations, Tohoku EvolvedHeavy has exactly 673 steps and freeze arrows combined. Combining the 455 combo video and the video with CUT1 on (and freezes and jumps on), there are at least 17 freeze arrows in the song, making the highest possible max combo 656. It's probably fewer than that, unless there are absolutely no freeze arrows in the second half of the song bar the ending stop.

(Compare Valkyrie dimensionHeavy's total of 671 steps and freezes, consisting of 632 steps and 39 freezes.)

We should totally team up for stuff like this lol

If you check my simfile category I have Tohoku EVOLVED there. With all the known videos out there, I have accumulated 566 steps and 17 freeze arrows. So we still have maximum 89 arrows that got cut. Probably some of those cut arrows has freezes.

And looking at the BPM light (the one below the screen), apparently the last speed up is faster than 680 BPM, but I still can't determine the exact value so the last jump is still on place. Later I'll use some math maybe.

EDIT: After some calculations, I estimated the last speed up to be either: A. 892.5 BPM, B. 1020 BPM, C. 968.5 BPM.
C is a rough estimate based on the video, 21 beats divided by change in time in minutes = tempo. B is kinda improbable seeing it has more than 3 digits, and A feels a bit off.

just like I thought a few pages before. the last speed up has a jump lol
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Post #4285 · Posted at 2012-06-04 03:00:47pm 13 years ago

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Post #4286 · Posted at 2012-06-04 03:06:56pm 13 years ago

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So further routes are announced, and apparently, the condition to unlock Tohoku EVOLVED for play on EES is to have played all the other EXTRA TOUR songs. No wonder there's not many videos around.

Pray for all.
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Post #4287 · Posted at 2012-06-04 04:35:25pm 13 years ago

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Post #4288 · Posted at 2012-06-04 08:31:01pm 13 years ago

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646 combo FAIL.

Edit: Video went private. :/
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Post #4289 · Posted at 2012-06-04 08:44:06pm 13 years ago

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646 combo FAIL.

Edit: Video went private. :/
Good lord how many steps does this chart have? Makes me wonder if this should not be an 18.

Post #4290 · Posted at 2012-06-04 09:12:29pm 13 years ago

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According to calculations, we're just one step away of knowing the full chart of Tohoku EVOLVED, which is (most likely) the last 12th jump (he failed on the first 12th jumps, there's supposedly 6 of them, 5 are visible).

Btw I have the video. Gonna upload later. Meanwhile I'm gonna upload the simfile.

@Pandy

Zowayix calculations would be correct. There are 656 steps and 17 freezes, with an estimate of 47 jumps.
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Post #4291 · Posted at 2012-06-04 09:14:43pm 13 years ago

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Wouldn't the last one be UP RIGHT then from the other videos?

Post #4292 · Posted at 2012-06-04 09:17:05pm 13 years ago

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Not that, that's the jump on the last speed up. I'm talking about the 12th jumps, which is right after he failed. If he used x1, that jump would be visible >.>

http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/viewsimfile.php?simfileid=18721

Okay, updated.
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Post #4293 · Posted at 2012-06-04 09:26:45pm 13 years ago

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Ah I see, sorry.

Bump: Video is no longer private; but here's a download link if it becomes private again:

http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/forums/Tohoku_EVOLVED.mp4

Post #4294 · Posted at 2012-06-04 09:31:13pm 13 years ago

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Oh my god, that's by far the hardest 17 of all time, maybe an 18 ._. (i see it a lot harder than Valkyrie Dimension)

Post #4295 · Posted at 2012-06-04 09:33:55pm 13 years ago

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Yeah thats definitely hard enough to be an 18. Are they trying to underrate songs again like they did with SN2? Even though the other songs in this mix tended to be overrated...?

Post #4296 · Posted at 2012-06-04 09:48:28pm 13 years ago

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Wow!! It's a really hard 17 lvl stepchart.

The S-challenge will be definitely insane.
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Post #4297 · Posted at 2012-06-04 10:09:11pm 13 years ago

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Doing a frame-by-frame analysis on both CUT1 videos (the one with freezes and jumps off, and the one with them on), the last speedup is definitely faster than 892.5 bpm.

There are a total of 31 measures combined of speedup visible (20 measures in one video, and 11 in the other). It took a total of 219 frames (219/30 seconds) to scroll through those measures, an average of ~7.06 frames per measure.

By accounting for rounding error, it would have taken between 218.5 and 219.5 frames to scroll through those 31 measures, meaning 7.05 to 7.08 frames per measure, placing the BPM between 1016.9 and 1021.5.

It seems very likely that the last speedup is triple the normal BPM, at exactly 1020.

Looks like we have a new record for fastest scrolling speed in a song.

Post #4298 · Posted at 2012-06-05 02:57:51am 13 years ago

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Quote: Zowayix
Doing a frame-by-frame analysis on both CUT1 videos (the one with freezes and jumps off, and the one with them on), the last speedup is definitely faster than 892.5 bpm.

There are a total of 31 measures combined of speedup visible (20 measures in one video, and 11 in the other). It took a total of 219 frames (219/30 seconds) to scroll through those measures, an average of ~7.06 frames per measure.

By accounting for rounding error, it would have taken between 218.5 and 219.5 frames to scroll through those 31 measures, meaning 7.05 to 7.08 frames per measure, placing the BPM between 1016.9 and 1021.5.

It seems very likely that the last speedup is triple the normal BPM, at exactly 1020.

Looks like we have a new record for fastest scrolling speed in a song.

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Post #4299 · Posted at 2012-06-05 03:16:28am 13 years ago

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Oh my god, that's by far the hardest 17 of all time, maybe an 18 ._. (i see it a lot harder than Valkyrie Dimension)

Yeah, this should be an 18. It looks too hard just to be a 17, especially when FLOWER is a 17 and looks a lot easier.

Post #4300 · Posted at 2012-06-05 03:17:24am 13 years ago

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Quote: Zowayix
Doing a frame-by-frame analysis on both CUT1 videos (the one with freezes and jumps off, and the one with them on), the last speedup is definitely faster than 892.5 bpm.

There are a total of 31 measures combined of speedup visible (20 measures in one video, and 11 in the other). It took a total of 219 frames (219/30 seconds) to scroll through those measures, an average of ~7.06 frames per measure.

By accounting for rounding error, it would have taken between 218.5 and 219.5 frames to scroll through those 31 measures, meaning 7.05 to 7.08 frames per measure, placing the BPM between 1016.9 and 1021.5.

It seems very likely that the last speedup is triple the normal BPM, at exactly 1020.

Looks like we have a new record for fastest scrolling speed in a song.
This changes everything I've thought about DDR. I thought one day, Konami will make a song with 999 BPM.
Also, I'd say Tohoku Evolved is Heavy-18. If DeltaMAX Heavy and Challenge are 17s, then Tohoku EVOLVED should be an 18.
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