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Post #401 · Posted at 2012-12-28 11:16:36pm 12.4 years ago

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It's not unreasonable to ask for more, but we know we're only going to get songs which have either sold well over their targets, or reached the end of their shelf-lives in Japan, and the Konami packs are always going to get jumbled up, to deter Japanese players from buying the (cheaper) English song packs. The Japanese packs are always available to us, and Konami would obviously rather have us buy them, than wait for English packs.

Remember that while Jubeat has been out for 3 years, the iPhone version of Reflec Beat is only around 2 months old, and there's still money to be made in Japan from iPhone users, so that might account for some of the delay. When an Anime launches on DVD in Japan, there's usually a 6-8 month embargo on any American company being able to release it on DVD with a Japanese audio track, so the Japanese mentality is, and always has been "make money in our primary market, then throw scraps to the secondary markets".

The thing is with the Japanese license packs, they will never get released over here, so how will we hurt their sales target? The only exception is in jukebeat with the "NACANO pack".

Our three Konami original packs is not going to dent their 64 packs in anyway, like I said, it's only 4.69% the size of the Japanese game at the moment. It would be very petty of Konami to think a game of less than 10% the size of RB + will dent their sales but there could be other reasons other than this.

I also doubt a huge proportion of Japanese people that have REFLEC BEAT plus will make the effort of:

1. Creating a US account, entering fake addresses and all sorts.
2. Buy US iTunes credit.
3. Buy the REFLEC BEAT + packs.

Likewise, only a small minority of us in the west will ever buy the Japanese packs from Japanese iTunes credit that have been marked up quite high.

For example on this site here: http://www.japan-codes.com/product-category/itunes-gift-card/

Assuming $1 equates to 86.05 yen, the markup ranges from 21.3% for the 10,000 yen card, up to 71.9% for the 500 yen card...

So basically you could be paying anything from $6.34 to $8.99 for a Japanese pack. I think the majority of us won't be paying that much for a pack unless you're insanely rich.

Post #402 · Posted at 2012-12-29 12:10:34am 12.4 years ago

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I also doubt a huge proportion of Japanese people that have REFLEC BEAT plus will make the effort of:

1. Creating a US account, entering fake addresses and all sorts.
2. Buy US iTunes credit.
3. Buy the REFLEC BEAT + packs.

Likewise, only a small minority of us in the west will ever buy the Japanese packs from Japanese iTunes credit that have been marked up quite high.

Basically this. I'd like to see any evidence at all that a significant number of people would jump ship if another region has a better deal since I don't think it happens given the difficulty and irritation of buying and updating other apps on iOS if you switch stores. Believe me, I've tried, I lived in the USA and kept the Canadian App Store because switching was really annoying and you keep having to re-enter credit cards and you lose existing purchase history since even shared apps are considered separate purchases on another region's store.
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Post #403 · Posted at 2012-12-29 02:20:36am 12.4 years ago

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The thing is with the Japanese license packs, they will never get released over here, so how will we hurt their sales target? The only exception is in jukebeat with the "NACANO pack".

Picking nits, but the NINJAMAN-JAPAN pack is also a shared license.

Barring some behind the scenes circumstance we can't possibly know about (besides investigating the internal song IDs) I can't see the disparity between the amount of content between the JP and International versions as anything more than apathy on Konami's part. Everything about the handling of jukebeat and Rb+ just screams of a total lack of effort.

Post #404 · Posted at 2013-01-14 10:59:56pm 12.4 years ago

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Can anybody please tell me the link to download reflec beat plus 2.1.0?

Post #405 · Posted at 2013-01-15 12:40:16am 12.4 years ago

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Can anybody please tell me the link to download reflec beat plus 2.1.0?
I assume that's the latest update of RB+, just install it from the app store Confused (Unless 2.1.0 is a downgrade, I really can't help you with that).
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Post #406 · Posted at 2013-01-15 01:08:39am 12.4 years ago

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Yeah the latest version is 2.2.0, you are out of luck I'm afraid.

Post #407 · Posted at 2013-01-15 08:45:09pm 12.4 years ago

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oh thanks anyways

Post #408 · Posted at 2013-01-16 01:41:42am 12.4 years ago

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Second January in a row that there's been a huge gap between song packs on Reflec Beat.

We're so close to Colette.. Let's see what songs we have left..

- 笑ってたいんだ
- Sweet Rain
- ALBIDA
- VOLTEXES
- The Sampling Paradise
- waxing and wanding
- EXUSIA
- 灼熱Beach Side Bunny
- 天空の夜明け
- HAERETICUS
- 記憶の欠片
- STARS (Ryu☆Remix RRver.)
- Fly to Next World


Also, a Limelight theme would be nice. Let's get moving, Konami.

Post #409 · Posted at 2013-01-16 01:45:12am 12.4 years ago

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STARS (Ryu Remix RRver.) is a license unless Konami releases a Ryu*/Mayumi Morinaga pack in the game.

I hope Konami's currently making the limelight theme atm. There has been no songpack updates since last year.

Post #410 · Posted at 2013-01-16 01:19:26pm 12.4 years ago

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Cool another license pack.

Post #411 · Posted at 2013-01-17 12:33:00am 12.4 years ago

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So, Rb+ International has officially given up?
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Post #412 · Posted at 2013-01-17 01:49:03am 12.4 years ago

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Post #413 · Posted at 2013-01-17 05:16:47am 12.4 years ago

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Exaggeration. Hyperbole. Etcetera.
I'm aware of the meaning.
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Post #414 · Posted at 2013-01-17 06:27:07am 12.4 years ago

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Post #415 · Posted at 2013-01-17 06:36:06am 12.4 years ago

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Quote: Tiger of PTS

We're so close to Colette.. Let's see what songs we have left..

Don't forget Milky Ice Bear and KOROBUSHKA (Ryu☆Remix) - Though I think KOROBUSHKA is a licence too as far as I'm aware.

I also noticed someone decided to hack the leaderboard. It's been like that for weeks. I guess Konami aren't bothered about him in RB plus. I know he was removed from the top in Jubeat Plus recently too.

Post #416 · Posted at 2013-01-17 08:30:51am 12.4 years ago

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So, Rb+ International has officially given up?

At this point I think it might be a piracy thing. If they can see housands of people downloading and posting scores for various songs, but know they've only sold hundreds of copies of each of those songs, then they might be reluctant to release any more songs until they can push out another forced update that requires whatever new version of IOS isn't jailbroken yet?

Post #417 · Posted at 2013-01-17 08:50:34am 12.4 years ago

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Blocking piracy doesn't mean the people that pirated will magically go and buy the packs anyway... Most will just simply do without the packs until they find a way of getting them illegitimately again.

Also releasing packs that include songs that are already released on the Japanese counterpart shouldn't cost them a great deal of time and money. So all they're losing out in my opinion is revenue that players could spend right now if they release the packs in a timely manner... Neutral

Post #418 · Posted at 2013-01-18 01:38:42pm 12.4 years ago

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Anyway MUSIC PACK 30 now out on Reflec Beat plus.

Fly to Next World - Qrispy Joybox
milky ice bear - S-C-U
VOLTEXES - Sota Fujimori
オレンジ

Post #419 · Posted at 2013-01-18 01:43:12pm 12.4 years ago

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Yes indeed, time for come more Collette goodies!
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Post #420 · Posted at 2013-01-18 01:46:31pm 12.4 years ago

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I assume Konami will release first the Lincle Link songs before moving to the official colette songpacks.
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