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Post #401 · Posted at 2010-04-05 01:38:09am 15.2 years ago

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ROFL! XD

KOE's thought process: Well, in HP2 we got a chick with the Wiimote standing on the DDR mat...LETZ ADD A DUDE AND ANOTHER GIRL DOING THE SAME EXCEPT WE HAVE HIM ON THE WII MAT AND THE ARROWS ARE NOW CORRECTLY PLACED! Big Grin

Post #402 · Posted at 2010-04-05 01:38:53am 15.2 years ago

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Oh look what I found from Konami Italy:

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Alright Lady Gaga! She's my favorite Happy

Tonight's gonna be a good night D:

Post #403 · Posted at 2010-04-05 01:43:55am 15.2 years ago

Offline mageman17
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Can they just be consistent with US's logo? This one looks more plain, not counting miss Ca(ra)mel-Toes Swirling-Remote mk II (it doesn't have the sparkles, but blech).

Unless it is marketed solely as an exercise game and not a dance simulation game (she seriously isn't going to a party dressed liked that).

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Tonight's gonna be a good night D:

brb, gonna b disappointed at BEP.

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Post #404 · Posted at 2010-04-05 03:40:42am 15.2 years ago

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Can they just be consistent with US's logo? This one looks more plain, not counting miss Caramel-Toes Swirling-Remote mk II (it doesn't have the sparkles, but blech).
Camel-Toes

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Tonight's gonna be a good night D:
Remember when Black Eyed-Peas weren't generic and boring? Oh, wait.
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Post #405 · Posted at 2010-04-16 08:39:14pm 15.1 years ago

Offline KnuxSonic8
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Not sure if this is the spot to ask this but does anyone know how work is coming along with the MP3's for the songs in HP3 under the Simfiles section?

Post #406 · Posted at 2010-04-20 04:53:12am 15.1 years ago

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Quote: KnuxSonic8
Not sure if this is the spot to ask this but does anyone know how work is coming along with the MP3's for the songs in HP3 under the Simfiles section?

-To answer your concern, no, this is not the place to discuss the simfiles. That would be the thread in "Simfile Discussion".
-Also, in answer of your main question, the mp3's have been in the first post of the aforementioned thread for a while. I assume the problem is that the .sm files aren't ready.

Post #407 · Posted at 2010-04-22 11:50:04am 15.1 years ago

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Oh, I had no idea. Thanks a lot. Smile

Post #408 · Posted at 2010-04-28 02:02:19pm 15.1 years ago

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Still playing Music Fit, and I guess I'll mention something I had noticed by now:

Quote: darknight06
roppongi actually isn't that hard in the grand scheme of things unless it picks ver. C. Kimono actually takes some effort. I'm gonna venture a guess and say that if any of these have gimmick requirements it'll be roppongi Evolved since it's the easiest of the three songs.

I don't know about the Heavy charts, but Kimono Light and roppongi Standard (all versions) require gimmicks.
Kimono, roppongi and You Are a Star are the only songs in Music Fit to use diagnal arrows,
and they all have at least one difficulty that requires those arrows to get AAA.

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I have a question that's on my mind about this game and the former version. Will HP3 pads work on HP2? Are there any significant differences between the pads from the bundles? If the answer to the first is yes and the answer to the second is no, I may buy HP2 and HP3 bundles.

Any official pad from the bundle will work, however I've heard complaints that some cheap but crappy 3rd-party pads will only work on early games.

And btw, I tried Freeze Heavy with cut, jump off, freeze off and gimmicks off, and I got a PFC with a D rank Laughing Out Loud
Looks like there's something really weird about the whole FC thing in this game...
(In contrast, you won't earn the FC crown in FFP if you choose a song that requires gimmicks, and FC it with gimmicks turned off.
This serves as a hint to tell if you need gimmicks to AAA a song.)

EDIT:
I checked again today, so now I have a list of all the songs in Music Fit that need gimmicks to get AAAs on Heavy
(I haven't checked other difficulties yet.).

Quote: Expert charts that require gimmicks
君を守って君を愛して (232 combos with Boomerang Arrows)
おどるポンポコリン (204 combos with Boomerang Arrows)
創聖のアクエリオン (262 combos with Triple Arrows)
Stairway Generation (312 combos with Double Arrows)
HOT LIMIT (289 combos with Double Arrows)
迷宮バタフライ (267 combos with Boomerang Arrows)
BUTTERFLY (320 combos with Sudden Arrows)
Be With You (Still Miss You) (218 combos with Double Arrows)
Crazy Control (249 combos with Triple Arrows)
You Are A Star (355 combos with Diagonal Arrows)
THIS NIGHT (349 combos with Double Arrows)
HOTTEST PARTY (899 combos with Double & Sudden Arrows)
フルフル♪パーティー (1073 combos with Size & Boomerang Arrows)
KIMONO PRINCESS (518 combos with Diagonal Arrows)
roppongi EVOLVED ver. A (503 combos with Diagonal Arrows)
roppongi EVOLVED ver. B (485 combos with Diagonal Arrows)
roppongi EVOLVED ver. C (506 combos with Diagonal Arrows)

Dunno if HP3's charts are the same as MF's though.

Post #409 · Posted at 2010-05-14 03:25:10am 15.1 years ago

Post #410 · Posted at 2010-05-14 03:47:45am 15.1 years ago

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'least you guys get game-only.

Post #411 · Posted at 2010-05-14 03:55:34am 15.1 years ago

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With a compromise of a 6 month wait? Uhhh no thanks.

Post #412 · Posted at 2010-05-18 01:14:51am 15 years ago

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I actually broke down the whole gimmick requirement thing long time ago on a Youtube post of mine. Let me see if I can find my list, because there is an explanation as to WHY a song requires gimmicks to AAA. Here it is.

"Come to think of it, with HP3 I may have a hunch as to when a song requires gimmicks and WHY. I've noticed that in ALL of the AAAs that require gimmicks, these songs usually have double stomps notes tied to jumps. Normally landing a jump only counts as one note and you get the total score for that one note. However, when one of the two notes is a gimmick note a jump counts as two steps in a combo AND in scoring. This is why the ending scores on these songs don't even out when gimmicks are off. It's also why on DDRX2 You Are A Star Expert only has 352 notes when AAAd while its HP3 equivalent has 355 notes with the same grade. The three extra notes are from the gimmick jumps.

The way the game sees it, it is similar to the loss of total point values when you turn freeze arrows off.

This also goes for songs in HP2 with hand requirements. The reason for that is because on double hand markers, each hand counts as a separate note and gets a separate judgment. When hands are off, you're essentially cutting one note off of every jump in the song. Double/Triple Stomps work the same way here as in HP3 too, explaining why We Will Win The Fight and 5 O'Clock required gimmicks and hands.

Now it seems like if two double stomps are used together in a jump, the jump is again counted as ONE note in a combo. This explains why Walking on Sunshine could be AAAd without Gimmicks when beforehand I thought they were required. Now the reasoning behind the score caps on AAAs for HP2 is still very much unknown to me though. My theory is that it's based off a percentage of notes shaken

In short, whether something requires gimmicks or not is entirely based off of whether it affects how many notes are counted in specific jump situations in a chart."

Songs that require gimmicks to AAA.

You Are A Star: diagonal arrow is placed on three jumps
Crazy Control: (triple stomp is part of the jumps at the beginning of the song)
This Night (double stomp on jumps)
Brilliant 2U (double stomp on jumps)
Be With You (Still Miss You) (double stomps on jumps)
Enjoy The Silence (double stomps on jumps)
Southside (double stomps on jumps)
True Love (Clubstars' True Club Mix)
Roppongi Evolved (all three, due to diagonal arrows on jumps at the beginning of all three charts)
Pluto The First (sudden arrows are on jumps)
Kimono Princess (diagonal arrows on jumps)
Hottest Party (sudden arrows and double stomps on jumps)
Hottest Party 2 (on the VERY first jump a foot missile is placed as part of a jump)

Nonstop courses work like this too. If ANY song in a nonstop requires gimmicks, the entire course will require them for a AAA.

Free Play Mode courses:
Kamikaze Princess
Dreaming Air
Crazy Squall
Freezing Gust
Blasting Time
Night Storm

Workout Mode courses:
Aerobeats
Stepping Out of the Box
Funky Grooves
Sizzlin' Beats
Cliffhanger
Swinging With Swiftness
Reaching Out

Post #413 · Posted at 2010-05-30 07:58:11am 15 years ago

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With a compromise of a 6 month wait? Uhhh no thanks.
^ This.

I thought that the game would be out already by now. I must say that for all the suing each other Harmonix and Konami do they sure do have a lot in common, including lax release dates for Europe... Annoyed

I know that they have to translate it into a couple of European languages, but Nintendo managed to release a text-heavy game like Zelda: Spirit Tracks a couple of days after the US AND with the European version's English actually being in proper British English.
I know, Nintendo were just spoiling me and we can't expect every company to put in that amount of effort.


Also, HAI GUYZ! Missed me?
I'd say not.
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Post #414 · Posted at 2010-05-30 08:14:45am 15 years ago

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So, DDR HP3 out in Europe this week and only Konami's Italy site has the game up on their site. Brilliant. Annoyed

Bump: This should get the message across juuuuust right:

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Post #415 · Posted at 2010-05-30 08:18:33am 15 years ago

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Post #416 · Posted at 2010-05-30 05:53:18pm 15 years ago

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So, DDR HP3 out in Europe this week and only Konami's Italy site has the game up on their site. Brilliant. Annoyed

Bump: This should get the message across juuuuust right:

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D8 Why does the German official site have that kind of footage? I've been checking the Japanese site literally every day for some kind of character official art. Nothin' doing.

Post #417 · Posted at 2010-05-30 06:02:08pm 15 years ago

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Also, HAI GUYZ! Missed me?
I'd say not.
I did! Big Grin
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Post #418 · Posted at 2010-05-31 10:39:40am 15 years ago

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Also, HAI GUYZ! Missed me?
I'd say not.
I did! Big Grin
You shouldn't have because:

a) I'm an annoying, whiny git.
b) I still fancy you.

Konami's handling of releases in Europe no longer surprises me: America is more lucrative for the amount of effort Konami need to put in, Europe isn't.

Wow, I've been gone from the DDR community for so long I feel completely out of the loop of what's been going on. Have I missed anything important?
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Post #419 · Posted at 2010-05-31 05:41:43pm 15 years ago

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DDR X2 (AC) (Japan)

nice.

Post #420 · Posted at 2010-06-01 07:25:58pm 15 years ago

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Thank you Konami France: http://fr.games.konami-europe.com/game.do?idGame=275

Though it's a bit shameful for them to use a trailer that states the ESRB rating which Europe doesn't even have!
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