Z-I-v Simfile Tournament of Immortals 4

Well, you know what? I don't think it's fair that people are using song selection as the only deciding factor towards voting. So, you're basically telling me that just because I have different tastes & preferences in music than everyone else here, that means I am at a disadvantage?

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Well, song choice is kind of important since it's what you make the steps to and everything...

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I am 100% certain that it's not the genre people have a problem with here.
If the steps are shite, then the file will be judged accordingly. Plain and simple.

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Trance simfiles a fair amount of time don't give much variety to a stepcharts

If you're looking for more diversity, you're gonna have to look at other genres

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I agree, I am also being unfairly voted against people cannot handle the epicness of Queen SUIMI's legendary vocals. Adele WHO?!

[/snark]

qft

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Yeah, music choice is a factor for me when judging files, but obviously the steps are way more important. If you file is not fun or very bad then of course people aren't going to vote for it...

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I want to say that it also helps when you use a high-quality audio file and nice graphics. Simfiles are like a product you see at a store; the graphics are the packaging, the audio is the quality of the product, and the steps are the functionality of the product. While a product is useless if it doesn't work, people aren't going to buy products that look bad or have unappealing packaging.

In addition, I believe you're an ITG player, NuVirus. If I understand correctly, ITG players generally want straightforward simfiles that don't require you to move your orientation much, while DDR players (which is what most people here are) look for simfiles that have crossovers, spins, and such. Doublestepping is also much more frowned upon in the ITG community to my knowledge, even though it is looked down upon here too.

To be honest I don't know if I'm communicating this well enough but it's w/e

RE: NuVirus
I think this community as a whole doesn't tend to favour the mechanical "ITG official" step style.
Put simply, they didn't like the steps, whether that was due to the song choice or not. Look around and see what people like, then try to make something that will fit that taste if you want to win. That's how any collectively-judged competition works. That and it's not really possible to have an objectively good and objectively bad simfile unless one is like 3 years offsync and rife with doublestepping. It's going to come down to which file the judges enjoyed more, and if it wasn't yours, it's your responsibility to deal with it gracefully.

Reviews coming soon.

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Where on Earth am I supposed to find a way to simply insert an .mp3 file, and boost its quality as simple a, "1, 2, 3!"? And remember, I'm already very limited with what I can even access in the first place, being a MAC OS X 10.5.8 user.

You ARE right on me being an ITG player, but I do not believe that my charts were done poorly. I don't see a single double step in them...

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uh no

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I agree with SM MaxX here. I believe it is the opposite. It took a while for DDR charts to lose the double-stepping element in their charts, while with ITG, double-stepping was kept away pretty well. And, why do you think gimmick simfiles exist in the first place?

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You can't boost the quality of audio, you google to see if you can find higher quality audio of the song, then cut it yourself using audacity or something. Anything helps to make your file feel better quality. It's even more jarring when everyone has good quality audio except you.

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Why don't you try being more constructive with your post? "Uh no" isn't helping at all. Try explaining what "ITG charts" are or "what ITG players want" or something. No need to be rude.

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the prevalent popularity of streamy dumps in ITG shouldn't cover over the fact that there's plenty and I mean PLENTY of technical stuff as well in ITG tournement packs or pretty much a lot of stepartists in general. A lot of spooty's/sudzi's/joe#2/valex's just to name a few artists. Just because it's not as popular doesn't mean that's it not there.

If it came off as rude then it's probably because I'm just tired of the forced stereotypes people on this site throw around all the time for ITG.

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this bothers me a lot too

Personally when I think of ITG I think of mods courses and lua
generally those files even tend to have crossovers in them, too (at least, the ones WinDEU and I make)

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Adobe Audition CS5.5

You need to find a higher-quality audio file first. At least 128 kbps, but preferably 256-320. You can't magically upgrade audio to a higher bitrate.

Also, I didn't mean to offend with the ITG statement. I was just trying to give a reason for why your charts don't do well. People here generally don't like a lot of streaming, which is what many (not all) ITG simfiles are like. I do realize that there's a large part of the community that uses lots of gimmicks and other step patterns (their creations can often be pretty hilarious to be honest). Your chart just happens to fit the stereotype I guess (I can't say for myself as I haven't played it) and that's why people aren't liking it.

Honestly, it would be wonderful if the DDR and ITG communities could cone together. It's not like there's going to be any more relevant releases in either series. At least, relevant outside of Asia. Would feel a lot more livelier tbh.


Audacity is also wonderful for song cuts. I use it all the time.

THERE! I fixed the audio quality (found a better cut on YouTube). http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/viewsimfile.php?simfileid=23741


In a way, I feel as if that's the REAL reason why warpdr!ve dropped out of the tournament. He didn't want to face another problem like in Divinelegy's Gimmick Competition last year (according to him, a lot of bias was going around during judging). I mean, look at his entry for the Qualifiers. He put his heart & soul into making such a sophisticated, difficult-to-make, and original simfile (Reaper). I'm pretty sure I didn't see anything else in the Qualifiers for this tournament scream "course mods" or "foregrounds" like his did, yet most people who voted decided to put his advanced file on the "pay-no-mind (cuz this is Zenius)" list, while the DDR-like entries pretty much got "too much" attention. I also feel as if both of these tournaments were/are biased on a personal level (basing off of who each entrant is).

In short, I am concluding that something needs to be done about these StepMania tournaments & how they are run.

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Cool. We spent, like, a page and a half arguing about nothing. Can we please get back to voting?

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