Post #381 · Posted at 2012-11-04 10:30:50am 12.8 years ago
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All of my country's X3 vs 2ndMix machines (two of them, currently) are running on the "classic" black cabinet. Some X and X2s too, the only X-style dedicab we have is X2 NA dedicabs and one X JP dedicabs.
Anyway, I think the older machines will not get any upgrade kits this time. Since it has been discussed that the benefit of "e-Amusement participation system" (the profit-sharing system) includes "cheaper machines", then providing upgrade kits would be kind of a moot point for Konami.
Anyway, I think the older machines will not get any upgrade kits this time. Since it has been discussed that the benefit of "e-Amusement participation system" (the profit-sharing system) includes "cheaper machines", then providing upgrade kits would be kind of a moot point for Konami.
The Asian market outside of Japan is predominantly classic cabinets, yes. but the kit released in Asia and the kit released in Japan are different. They still make a classic conversion kit for Japan specifically, even though with each successive mix there are noticeably less of them. I was mildly surprised when X2 could be loaded on those beat up old machines, I was very surprised when X3 could. I can't imagine how it would be cost effective for them to make a DDR upgrade kit for anything that wasn't at least DDR X to begin with.
They have to convert the UI to 4:3 displays, they have to account for different timing variables on CRTs and older pads. I can't imagine what kind of converters and wiring is required to make a cabinet that originally housed a 573 PCB connect with a Dell Optiplex. They're willing to go through the trouble to keep the original machines with the times but flat out say that it's not cost effective to even make another Wii game for the English market. Okay.
Not bitter, just confused.
Post #382 · Posted at 2012-11-04 10:46:11am 12.8 years ago
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All of my country's X3 vs 2ndMix machines (two of them, currently) are running on the "classic" black cabinet. Some X and X2s too, the only X-style dedicab we have is X2 NA dedicabs and one X JP dedicabs.
Anyway, I think the older machines will not get any upgrade kits this time. Since it has been discussed that the benefit of "e-Amusement participation system" (the profit-sharing system) includes "cheaper machines", then providing upgrade kits would be kind of a moot point for Konami.
Anyway, I think the older machines will not get any upgrade kits this time. Since it has been discussed that the benefit of "e-Amusement participation system" (the profit-sharing system) includes "cheaper machines", then providing upgrade kits would be kind of a moot point for Konami.
The Asian market outside of Japan is predominantly classic cabinets, yes. but the kit released in Asia and the kit released in Japan are different. They still make a classic conversion kit for Japan specifically, even though with each successive mix there are noticeably less of them. I was mildly surprised when X2 could be loaded on those beat up old machines, I was very surprised when X3 could. I can't imagine how it would be cost effective for them to make a DDR upgrade kit for anything that wasn't at least DDR X to begin with.
They have to convert the UI to 4:3 displays, they have to account for different timing variables on CRTs and older pads. I can't imagine what kind of converters and wiring is required to make a cabinet that originally housed a 573 PCB connect with a Dell Optiplex. They're willing to go through the trouble to keep the original machines with the times but flat out say that it's not cost effective to even make another Wii game for the English market. Okay.
Not bitter, just confused.
Well, the wiring system is not that hard to figure out tho. They use a kind of proprietary I/O board connected via USB, and the I/O board handles all the connection. If you're familiar with OpenITG/StepMania cabs, you will know what I'm talking about
But yeah, all things considered, it's pretty nice of Konami to make classic conversion kit for older machines. I personally thought that the older machines will be over (ie. unsupported, no more upgrades/conversions) when the SuperNova era ends with SN2. Maybe it's because they realized that older machines are still prevalent in some markets, so they decided to make upgrades/conversion kits for them....
(BTW, just saying, Wii and AC development teams are different. They might have different decisions regarding what to do or release)
Post #383 · Posted at 2012-11-04 11:42:38am 12.8 years ago
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They have to convert the UI to 4:3 displays, they have to account for different timing variables on CRTs and older pads. I can't imagine what kind of converters and wiring is required to make a cabinet that originally housed a 573 PCB connect with a Dell Optiplex. They're willing to go through the trouble to keep the original machines with the times but flat out say that it's not cost effective to even make another Wii game for the English market. Okay.
When they released X upgrade kit they did include BemaniPC configuration. This is why you can't skip X if you are using upgrade kits. The kits afterwards doesn't include BemaniPC AFAIK.
Also, I suppose that's pretty much the reason why people experience lags on X (which was quite reduced by X2).
btw are those huge screens dedicabs only or what
Post #384 · Posted at 2012-11-04 01:05:38pm 12.8 years ago
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DDR due for a March 2013 release.
1. New cabinet
• White cabinet
• Monitor size will increase from 37 inches to 42 inches
• Increased space for players to put personal items
• Dance stage will be the same as DDR X
2. Exciting music line up any time
• 60 songs or more will be added within the year
• On release the game will have over 40 songs, thereafter every other month will add 10 more songs to the game boosting user motivation
• Licenses will consist of J-POP, ANIME, GAME and INTERNET MUSIC. The e-AMUSE Participation system will be used.
3. Increased participation
• Will link to other BEMANI titles more strongly.
• By including songs from other BEMANI titles to DDR, more BEMANI players will play DDR.
4. Beginner friendly
• Simple game flow.
• Song selection has been simplified and natural for players playing the game for the first time.
• Easy sorting categories including "Artist" or "Planned Events".
• "TAG PLAY" - advanced players can support friends that are only starting with the game. Easier to introduce friends to DDR.
• Small increase sense of accomplishment - GOOD judgments will increase the combo and play motivation by making FULL COMBO easier.
There will be events targeted to get more beginners to play the game.
1. New cabinet
• White cabinet
• Monitor size will increase from 37 inches to 42 inches
• Increased space for players to put personal items
• Dance stage will be the same as DDR X
2. Exciting music line up any time
• 60 songs or more will be added within the year
• On release the game will have over 40 songs, thereafter every other month will add 10 more songs to the game boosting user motivation
• Licenses will consist of J-POP, ANIME, GAME and INTERNET MUSIC. The e-AMUSE Participation system will be used.
3. Increased participation
• Will link to other BEMANI titles more strongly.
• By including songs from other BEMANI titles to DDR, more BEMANI players will play DDR.
4. Beginner friendly
• Simple game flow.
• Song selection has been simplified and natural for players playing the game for the first time.
• Easy sorting categories including "Artist" or "Planned Events".
• "TAG PLAY" - advanced players can support friends that are only starting with the game. Easier to introduce friends to DDR.
• Small increase sense of accomplishment - GOOD judgments will increase the combo and play motivation by making FULL COMBO easier.
There will be events targeted to get more beginners to play the game.
Bigger monitor size = HAPPY
Personal space = No more stuff on the floor = HAPPY
J-POP, ANIME, GAME and INTERNET MUSIC = HAPPY
TAG PLAY = HAPPY
Now if we could only only get X3 and this here in the Philippines...
Post #385 · Posted at 2012-11-04 01:18:40pm 12.8 years ago
INTERNET...
Hehehehehehe x3
So I guess we'll get NYAN CAT on DDR.
Hehehehehehe x3
So I guess we'll get NYAN CAT on DDR.
Post #386 · Posted at 2012-11-04 02:06:37pm 12.8 years ago
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INTERNET...
Hehehehehehe x3
So I guess we'll get NYAN CAT on DDR.
Hehehehehehe x3
So I guess we'll get NYAN CAT on DDR.
Don't forget Caramelldansen & Trolololo.
The category looks like SEGA's Rhythm game, MAIMAI, though.
Post #387 · Posted at 2012-11-04 02:10:11pm 12.8 years ago
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Bigger monitor might be nice and all, but what about lag?
Post #388 · Posted at 2012-11-04 02:37:26pm 12.8 years ago
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INTERNET...
Hehehehehehe x3
So I guess we'll get NYAN CAT on DDR.
Nyan Cat and/or PONPONPON.Hehehehehehe x3
So I guess we'll get NYAN CAT on DDR.
Post #389 · Posted at 2012-11-04 03:07:51pm 12.8 years ago
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INTERNET...
Hehehehehehe x3
So I guess we'll get NYAN CAT on DDR.
Hehehehehehe x3
So I guess we'll get NYAN CAT on DDR.
Don't forget Caramelldansen & Trolololo.
The category looks like SEGA's Rhythm game, MAIMAI, though.
There already is a ryu remix of Caramelldansen and I still wonder why that never appeared in any Bemani game. Love the mungyodance cut and chart of it.
I would totally expect a lot more Hatsune Miku/Vocaloid in that "internet" section though.
Post #390 · Posted at 2012-11-04 03:14:30pm 12.8 years ago
Wow, internet music? Caramelldansen should definitely be in it then. That has DDR written all over it!
And I wonder if Gangnam Style will be in it too? That'd be hilarious and awesome!
And that's cool that the release date is on my birth month. It would be cooler if it were released on my birth DAY. lol.
And I wonder if Gangnam Style will be in it too? That'd be hilarious and awesome!
And that's cool that the release date is on my birth month. It would be cooler if it were released on my birth DAY. lol.
Post #391 · Posted at 2012-11-04 05:59:25pm 12.8 years ago
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Wow, internet music? Caramelldansen should definitely be in it then. That has DDR written all over it!
And I wonder if Gangnam Style will be in it too? That'd be hilarious and awesome!
And that's cool that the release date is on my birth month. It would be cooler if it were released on my birth DAY. lol.
And I wonder if Gangnam Style will be in it too? That'd be hilarious and awesome!
And that's cool that the release date is on my birth month. It would be cooler if it were released on my birth DAY. lol.
Psh, Gangnam Style would be on Pump It Up if anything.
Post #392 · Posted at 2012-11-04 06:18:10pm 12.8 years ago
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And I wonder if Gangnam Style will be in it too? That'd be hilarious and awesome!
It won't because Gangnam Style wasn't a hit in Japan.
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And that's cool that the release date is on my birth month. It would be cooler if it were released on my birth DAY. lol.
do you feel special now?
Post #393 · Posted at 2012-11-04 10:26:19pm 12.8 years ago
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Wow, internet music? Caramelldansen should definitely be in it then. That has DDR written all over it!
No no no no no no no no no
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And that's cool that the release date is on my birth month. It would be cooler if it were released on my birth DAY. lol.
DDR STR!KE was released on my 18th birthday, I couldn't be any happier...
Post #394 · Posted at 2012-11-04 10:52:30pm 12.8 years ago
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I'm suddenly thinking of those from pop'n music - especially from 17 onwards... :O
Post #395 · Posted at 2012-11-05 12:55:06am 12.8 years ago
Hope we get licenses from Perfume, AAA & kalafina.
Post #396 · Posted at 2012-11-05 02:03:48am 12.8 years ago
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[And that's cool that the release date is on my birth month. It would be cooler if it were released on my birth DAY. lol.
DDR STR!KE was released on my 18th birthday, I couldn't be any happier...
Hypothetically, if this game was delayed, it could potentially be released on MY 18th birthday
*JINX*
Ahem. Anyway, for online hits, maybe they mean more oo39.com or whatever. I liked that.
Post #397 · Posted at 2012-11-05 02:10:07am 12.8 years ago
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INTERNET HITS
For the love of all that is fair and balanced in the Internet, let this get in:
Post #398 · Posted at 2012-11-05 02:11:51am 12.8 years ago
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Max, if that gets in the game, i'll cry tears of joy.
Post #399 · Posted at 2012-11-05 02:48:13am 12.8 years ago
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You have to imagine that since this is likely to be a Asian-only game, and the "internet songs" are going to be what was hip in Japan, that it'll be more along the lines of this:
Post #400 · Posted at 2012-11-05 06:26:12am 12.8 years ago
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Wow, internet music? Caramelldansen should definitely be in it then. That has DDR written all over it!
In that case, they may possibly add this song instead
[youtube]v=kcgPug_b2uE[/youtube]