[SM5] Post features you want.

Post #21 · Posted at 2014-07-15 09:20:51am 9.9 years ago

Kyzentun
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A switch that can be toggled to turn on or off the generation/use of .ssc files, over .sm files. Transferring simfiles between SM4 & SM5 can be a real pain sometimes because of .ssc files.

Solution: Stop using SM4.

With all due respect, not if I can help it. From my experiences, SM5 is too difficult for me to work with when editing simfiles, so I use SM4 for that.

However, with playing & testing the charts, I prefer to use SM5 for it's additional speed mods, and screen filters.

In short, I cannot not use both. So apparently, my switch idea isn't doable at all? Not even at least some consideration?

So, you're only editing in SM4, and you're having trouble with files that are only created by SM5's edit mode? That doesn't quite match up.
The same data (minus features that only exist in .ssc, like split timing) is saved to both the .sm and the .ssc file, so why is it a problem if both files are created?
Your problem doesn't make sense, and sounds more like a user error than a need for a feature that would actually be useful.

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Post #22 · Posted at 2014-07-15 12:51:49pm 9.9 years ago

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Quote: PinkiePieGamer

Preferred sort for folders.

It's already in SM5. In metrics.ini, add this line:
[GameState]
DefaultSort="Preferred"

Then go to Theme Folder\Other\SongManager PreferredSongs.txt

---Group Name

Group Folder\Song Folder

---DDR

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\BRIGHT STREAM

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Starry HEAVEN

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Caramelldansen (Speedycake Remix)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\ORION WO NAZORU

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Zutto Mitsu Meteite (Ryu Remix)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Tsukematsukeru

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Maji LOVE 1000%

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\London wa Yoru 8 Ji (LON 8PM - TYO 4AM)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\ACROSS WORLD

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\JOKER

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Burst The Gravity

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Choo Choo Train

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\LOVE & JOY -Risk Junk MIX-

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Mickey Mouse March(Eurobeat Version)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Orenai Heart

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\JoJo ~Sono Chi no Sadame~

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Furisodeshon

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Maware! Setsugetsuka

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Ah La La La

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Back In Your Arms

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Beautiful Dream

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Bombay Bomb

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Children of the Beat

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Condor

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Everything I Need

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Find The Way

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\heron

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Hoping To Be Good

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\New Gravity

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\nightbird lost wing

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Qipchaq

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\south

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Straight Oath

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Sucka Luva

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\WILD SIDE

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\You

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Meumeupettantan!!

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Rin to shite saku hana no gotoku ~HinaBitter edition~

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Chikuwa parfait da yo CKP

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Hoshikuzu no kiroku

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Dispersion Star

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\escape

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\The Island Song

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Tell me what to do

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Top The Charts

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Diamond Night

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Confession

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Summer Fairytale

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Desert Journey

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\THE REASON

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Somehow You Found Me

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\printemps

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Windy Fairy

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Wow Wow VENUS

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Empathetic

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\GAIA

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\STULTI

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Synergy For Angels

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Okome no oishii takikata, soshite okome wo taberu koto ni yoru sono kouka.

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Seiten Bon Voyage

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Sousei Note

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Nijiiro no Hana

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Lucky Lucky

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Elemental Creation

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\sola

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Sweet Rain

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Magnetic

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Kiken na kajitsu

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Who Floats

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Colorful Pastel

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\The Wind of Gold

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\REVOLUTION

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Right on time (Ryu Remix)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\PRANA

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Chinese Snowy Dance

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\NAGISANO KOAKUMA LOVELY RADIO

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Triple Journey -TAG EDITION-

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Engraved Mark

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Koi wa dou Moro Hadou OK Houteishiki!!

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\True Blue

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Daily Lunch Special

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\VEGA

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Stella Sinistra

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Mind Game

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\PUNISHER

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\HYENA

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Deadball de homerun

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Squeeze

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Yakyuu no asobikata soshite sono rekishi ~ketteiban~

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Todoroke! Koi no beanball!!

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\IX

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Romancing Layer

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Do The Evolution

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\esreveR

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\AETHER

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\SABER WING (satellite silhouette remix)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Monkey Business

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Another Phase

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Air Heroes

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Spanish Snowy Dance

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\New Generation

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Blew My Mind

Post #23 · Posted at 2014-07-15 03:40:40pm 9.9 years ago

Michael1991
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Auto BPM & Gap feature

Post #24 · Posted at 2014-07-15 05:16:14pm 9.9 years ago

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Quote: chewi

Quote: PinkiePieGamer

Preferred sort for folders.

It's already in SM5. In metrics.ini, add this line:
[GameState]
DefaultSort="Preferred"

Then go to Theme Folder\Other\SongManager PreferredSongs.txt

---Group Name

Group Folder\Song Folder

---DDR

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\BRIGHT STREAM

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Starry HEAVEN

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Caramelldansen (Speedycake Remix)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\ORION WO NAZORU

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Zutto Mitsu Meteite (Ryu Remix)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Tsukematsukeru

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Maji LOVE 1000%

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\London wa Yoru 8 Ji (LON 8PM - TYO 4AM)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\ACROSS WORLD

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\JOKER

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Burst The Gravity

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Choo Choo Train

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\LOVE & JOY -Risk Junk MIX-

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Mickey Mouse March(Eurobeat Version)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Orenai Heart

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\JoJo ~Sono Chi no Sadame~

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Furisodeshon

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Maware! Setsugetsuka

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Ah La La La

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Back In Your Arms

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Beautiful Dream

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Bombay Bomb

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Children of the Beat

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Condor

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Everything I Need

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Find The Way

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\heron

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Hoping To Be Good

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\New Gravity

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\nightbird lost wing

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Qipchaq

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\south

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Straight Oath

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Sucka Luva

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\WILD SIDE

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\You

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Meumeupettantan!!

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Rin to shite saku hana no gotoku ~HinaBitter edition~

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Chikuwa parfait da yo CKP

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Hoshikuzu no kiroku

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Dispersion Star

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\escape

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\The Island Song

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Tell me what to do

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Top The Charts

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Diamond Night

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Confession

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Summer Fairytale

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Desert Journey

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\THE REASON

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Somehow You Found Me

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\printemps

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Windy Fairy

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Wow Wow VENUS

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Empathetic

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\GAIA

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\STULTI

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Synergy For Angels

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Okome no oishii takikata, soshite okome wo taberu koto ni yoru sono kouka.

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Seiten Bon Voyage

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Sousei Note

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Nijiiro no Hana

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Lucky Lucky

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Elemental Creation

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\sola

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Sweet Rain

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Magnetic

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Kiken na kajitsu

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Who Floats

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Colorful Pastel

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\The Wind of Gold

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\REVOLUTION

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Right on time (Ryu Remix)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\PRANA

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Chinese Snowy Dance

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\NAGISANO KOAKUMA LOVELY RADIO

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Triple Journey -TAG EDITION-

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Engraved Mark

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Koi wa dou Moro Hadou OK Houteishiki!!

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\True Blue

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Daily Lunch Special

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\VEGA

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Stella Sinistra

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Mind Game

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\PUNISHER

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\HYENA

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Deadball de homerun

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Squeeze

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Yakyuu no asobikata soshite sono rekishi ~ketteiban~

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Todoroke! Koi no beanball!!

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\IX

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Romancing Layer

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Do The Evolution

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\esreveR

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\AETHER

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\SABER WING (satellite silhouette remix)

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Monkey Business

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Another Phase

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Air Heroes

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Spanish Snowy Dance

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\New Generation

Dance Dance Revolution 2013\Blew My Mind

Doesn't this remove folders all together, though? Doesn't it just have all of the songs you placed in order, without the folders?

Post #25 · Posted at 2014-07-15 05:22:11pm 9.9 years ago

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I don't and can't check right now but I'm sure it does create folders.

Post #26 · Posted at 2014-07-15 06:34:07pm 9.9 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun

Sometimes, when I would attempt to edit on SM5, it looks as if the game will sometimes ignore that an .sm file is even there, and acknowledges only the .ssc file. Therefore, any changes I made to the .ssc file will sometimes not be written to the .sm file, thus messing me up.

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Post #27 · Posted at 2014-07-15 06:57:04pm 9.9 years ago

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" ♫~~ I'm wired to the world ~~♫"

You could try deleting the .sm file before editing and then it'll create a new one once you save it

Post #28 · Posted at 2014-07-15 08:44:46pm 9.9 years ago

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It may be a quite difficult feature to add, but maybe, when making a simfile, just having to indicate a classic video file to stepmania (instead of an audio file PLUS a video file) and he would use the video sound as the audio for the song and time both automatically (I'm having such a hard time finding my video offset manually ...)

Post #29 · Posted at 2014-07-15 09:02:19pm 9.9 years ago

Kyzentun
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Quote: Stepland

And then you have created a simfile that doesn't work for people who cut out bg videos to save space. Unless you're making some gimmick simfile where the video is required for the player to know what arrows to hit, requiring the player to have the video is a bad choice.

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Quote: Kyzentun

When SM5 saves the .ssc file, it also saves the .sm file, with the exact same data (minus features that are only in .ssc). It's likely that you're doing something wrong and using split timing when you don't intend to.
When loading, it prefers the .ssc file.

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Post #30 · Posted at 2014-07-15 09:23:43pm 9.9 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun

When SM5 saves the .ssc file, it also saves the .sm file, with the exact same data (minus features that are only in .ssc). When loading, it prefers the .ssc file.

I think it's SM5s preference for .ssc files when loading that messes me up. Sometimes, if I make a change to a simfile in SM5, it doesn't seem show up when I put the simfile back in SM4. And, when I make a side-by-side comparison between how the simfile shows in SM4 versus how it shows up in SM5, I essentially have two different versions of the same simfile.

Of course, this usually only happens once I have a simfile folder containing .sm, .sm.old, .ssc, and .ssc.old . Maybe that could be where things start going wrong?

Also, I tend to have a problem when migrating simfiles with warps between SM4 & SM5. For example, if I have a simfile on SM4 with a positive BPM warp, SM5 converts it into an actual warp, but then SM4 treats it as if no change is there once returned to SM4.

Post #31 · Posted at 2014-07-15 09:44:11pm 9.9 years ago

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Last updated: 2014-07-15 09:51pm

Have you updated your copy of SM5 recently, NuVirus? The last time this came up (here and more recently here) you indicated that you were using SM5 alpha 1.

Since that time, several more alphas were released, and several betas, too. If you need help upgrading your copy of SM5 for Mac OS X, my SM5 OS X upgrade tutorial from a year ago still applies.

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It seems people are missing a key point of this thread's first post, so I'll quote part of that post here:

Quote: Kyzentun

What features would you like to see in SM5?

Post the features you would like to see in SM5 and how much you're willing to pay for them. Email me at kyzentun at gmail dot com to make arrangements.

As you all know, StepMania is written by volunteers. As one of those volunteers, I personally am unemployed and thus have plenty of free time to spend on StepMania. But I'd also like to eat. So if you have a suggestion, I'm going to ignore it unless you can back it up with money.

Lua for SM5 Guide: https://quietly-turning.github.io/Lua-For-SM5/

Post #32 · Posted at 2014-09-04 10:49:35am 9.7 years ago

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This might be a tricky or damn near impossible feature to add, but would DDR X and up style select "crossfade" be possible?

Post #33 · Posted at 2014-09-04 11:49:08am 9.7 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."

I don't know what you're talking about. I stopped looking at DDR games ~4 years ago.

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Post #34 · Posted at 2014-09-05 05:09:16am 9.7 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun

I don't know what you're talking about. I stopped looking at DDR games ~4 years ago.

I've mostly found this feature in the AC versions of X/X2 (No X3 -> here in Washington Sad

), there's a seamless transition between songs on the scrollwheel. Maybe as an optional feature?

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwv6dt5hcys&feature=player_detailpage#t=42

Post #35 · Posted at 2014-09-05 05:19:10am 9.7 years ago

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Quote: staticthefox

there's a seamless transition between songs on the scrollwheel. Maybe as an optional feature?

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwv6dt5hcys&feature=player_detailpage#t=42

A seamless transition tweening from one song to another song? If that is what you mean, I'm not sure how StepMania doesn't already do this...

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Post #36 · Posted at 2014-09-05 05:25:29am 9.7 years ago

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In the video, the songs kind of fade into each other. That's what they want instead of the delay that there is now.

Post #37 · Posted at 2014-09-05 05:49:35am 9.7 years ago

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"hi"

I've asked around, but couldn't find anything on whether it was possible to make avoided mines/Shock Arrows count towards the combo, like in the Arcade games.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfwPUpZDv9s

Check out my YouTube channel! (Playstyle DDR videos) : http://www.youtube.com/user/barrendon649?feature=watch

Post #38 · Posted at 2014-09-05 06:12:54am 9.7 years ago

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"Yeah, nah."

Last updated: 2014-09-05 06:14am

AvoidMineIncrementsCombo= under [Gameplay] in metrics.ini already does this but it counts every mine so it adds 4 to the combo with DDR style shock arrows.

Commissions for music and cover art are now open ✨
Heck, I'll even do simfiles if you want.

Post #39 · Posted at 2014-09-05 06:22:42am 9.7 years ago

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"hi"

Is this stackable, or work in conjunction with "ComboIsPerRow"? (I think it's already in the DDR 2013 Theme)

Check out my YouTube channel! (Playstyle DDR videos) : http://www.youtube.com/user/barrendon649?feature=watch

Post #40 · Posted at 2014-09-05 06:23:45am 9.7 years ago

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"Yeah, nah."

As far as I know, changing ComboIsPerRow won't change it because it counts every single mine.

Commissions for music and cover art are now open ✨
Heck, I'll even do simfiles if you want.

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