Post #21 · Posted at 2010-03-08 04:18:48am 15.3 years ago
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Most SuperNOVA songs are rated the same on
and
mostly since the
charts were copy/pastes of
with marginally more steps, but often not much.
I find it funny how they rerated certain songs but didn't change the difficulty order, i.e.:
Funk Boogie goes 4/5/4/8 or something, they should swap
and 
STARS (Re-tuned by HAL)
is 10 but
is 9.




I find it funny how they rerated certain songs but didn't change the difficulty order, i.e.:
Funk Boogie goes 4/5/4/8 or something, they should swap


STARS (Re-tuned by HAL)


Post #22 · Posted at 2010-03-08 04:49:17am 15.3 years ago
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the foot ratings can be completely weird because I've seen a few songs (can't remember which song) that went from 9's to 10's and some 7's went to 11 or 12's but the basic premise would be:
05 = 06 - 09
06 = 07 - 09
07 = 08 - 11
08 = 09 - 13
09 = 10 - 15 (Arrabiatta being a 15)
10 = 14 - 16 (Paranoia survivor being a 14)
10 (flashing) = 15 - 20 (LoM being a 15 for some reason)
It really isn't consistent because a few 7 went to 12's and a few 8's went to a 9's or a 10.
I wonder what ska a go go would be because of the end run on standard.
05 = 06 - 09
06 = 07 - 09
07 = 08 - 11
08 = 09 - 13
09 = 10 - 15 (Arrabiatta being a 15)
10 = 14 - 16 (Paranoia survivor being a 14)
10 (flashing) = 15 - 20 (LoM being a 15 for some reason)
It really isn't consistent because a few 7 went to 12's and a few 8's went to a 9's or a 10.
I wonder what ska a go go would be because of the end run on standard.
Post #23 · Posted at 2010-03-08 11:39:44am 15.3 years ago
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OK. It's my calculation :
DDR X rating : Old DDR rating
01 = 01
02 = 01 (but a bit harder)
03 = 02
04 = 03 (Usually for song that have 3 steps or 2 - 2 step pattern on low BPM)
05 = 04 (Usually hard 3 footer like Butterfly
or 4 footer that not so fast)
06 = 04 or 05 ( For song that have exactly has full arrows on 4/4 or easy 5 footer on
that have not much blue arrows.)
07 = 05
08 = 06
09 = 06 or 07 (Hard 6 footer ala Paranoia or simple 7 footer like Happy Wedding
)
10 = 07 (Hard 7 footer such as D2R
, MARIA I believe...
, etc)
11 = 08
12 = 08 (hard 8 footer such as Sunkiss Drops
, DO YOU REMEMBER ME
, etc)
13 = 09
14 = 09 (Hard 9 footer, nearly 10 footer such as Konoko No Nanatsu No Oiwaini
, HVAM
, etc)
15 = 10 (Standard 10 footer such as MAX 300
, Horatio
, etc)
16 = 10 or 11 (Hard 10 footer such as Paranoia Respect
, Possibly easy 11 footer such as PSM
)
17 = 11 (Hard 11 footer such as FAXX
, Pluto The First
, etc)
18 = 12
19 = 12 or 13 (Hard 12 footer or nearly 13 footer)
20 = 13 (Absolutely 13 like Pandemonium
, Vertex2
, Totally Nuts !) 
DDR X rating : Old DDR rating
01 = 01
02 = 01 (but a bit harder)
03 = 02
04 = 03 (Usually for song that have 3 steps or 2 - 2 step pattern on low BPM)
05 = 04 (Usually hard 3 footer like Butterfly

06 = 04 or 05 ( For song that have exactly has full arrows on 4/4 or easy 5 footer on

07 = 05
08 = 06
09 = 06 or 07 (Hard 6 footer ala Paranoia or simple 7 footer like Happy Wedding

10 = 07 (Hard 7 footer such as D2R


11 = 08
12 = 08 (hard 8 footer such as Sunkiss Drops


13 = 09
14 = 09 (Hard 9 footer, nearly 10 footer such as Konoko No Nanatsu No Oiwaini


15 = 10 (Standard 10 footer such as MAX 300


16 = 10 or 11 (Hard 10 footer such as Paranoia Respect


17 = 11 (Hard 11 footer such as FAXX


18 = 12
19 = 12 or 13 (Hard 12 footer or nearly 13 footer)
20 = 13 (Absolutely 13 like Pandemonium



Post #24 · Posted at 2010-03-08 03:37:39pm 15.3 years ago
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Quote: typeCHAOS
It really isn't consistent because a few 7 went to 12's and a few 8's went to a 9's or a 10.
I wonder what ska a go go would be because of the end run on standard.
we'll never get a completely consistent conversion because of Konami's previously horrid misratings in that area of difficultyI wonder what ska a go go would be because of the end run on standard.
Post #25 · Posted at 2010-03-08 10:18:52pm 15.3 years ago
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Quote: EarthPluto
Quote: Aegis
Correct me if I am wrong but...
On the Bounce is a "16"...
SWAI is a "17"...
So why are LoM and MaXX Unlimited 15's?
On the Bounce is a "16"...
SWAI is a "17"...
So why are LoM and MaXX Unlimited 15's?
See the X-Special for LoM & MaXX Unlimited.

All of old boss song level are kicked by those all X-Specials..

Kicked with crap up their arse.
Post #26 · Posted at 2010-03-09 01:42:22am 15.3 years ago
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Totally Nuts ! 

Thanks. That's the most complete I've seen and it makes sense just glancing at it.
Post #27 · Posted at 2010-03-10 07:34:59am 15.3 years ago
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Honestly, I'd take the new rating scale with a grain of salt. a 1-10 rating scale is MUCH easier to conceptualize than a 1-18(19? 20?) especially when the new scale doesn't really seem consistent across the board. Plus, a lot of songs will vary for some people. Many see Sunkiss Drop as a 9, I see it as an 8, some see Survivor as a 9, i see it as a 10. Bag a 10? on 1x sure, but are they rating based on 1x speed or taking mods into consideration?
Post #28 · Posted at 2010-03-10 08:07:30am 15.3 years ago
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Bag a 10? on 1x sure, but are they rating based on 1x speed or taking mods into consideration?
Considering it's the default, I'd assume it'd be on default mods. Stuff like Ballad for You and I'll Make Love To You would be 6s (or even lower) on 2-3x.Post #29 · Posted at 2010-03-11 12:09:00am 15.3 years ago
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Quote: Daiz
Honestly, I'd take the new rating scale with a grain of salt. a 1-10 rating scale is MUCH easier to conceptualize than a 1-18(19? 20?) especially when the new scale doesn't really seem consistent across the board. Plus, a lot of songs will vary for some people. Many see Sunkiss Drop as a 9, I see it as an 8, some see Survivor as a 9, i see it as a 10. Bag a 10? on 1x sure, but are they rating based on 1x speed or taking mods into consideration?
This is generally how I feel, and part of the reason why I asked. So that I can look at a 14 and instantly know what it would have been rated on a 1-10 scale that way I can see in my mind through my experience how hard the song is suppose to be. It's like learning a second language, the brain always seems to put things into one's native tongue before converting it to concepts.
Post #30 · Posted at 2010-03-11 12:16:49am 15.3 years ago
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Bag should be a 9 in the 1-10 scale even in 1x, tbh.
Post #31 · Posted at 2010-03-11 12:22:40am 15.3 years ago
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Well then, what do you propose to be the easiest 10-footer? =P
Post #32 · Posted at 2010-03-11 01:19:36am 15.3 years ago
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Arrabbiata, if fixed. 

Post #33 · Posted at 2010-03-11 02:10:46am 15.3 years ago
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... what's wrong with it?
I love the new scale, it's absolutely necessary, by SuperNOVA2, the ratings were meaningless they were so poorly assigned and 10 was utterly vague. All I need to know about a 14 is, it's harder than a 13, but not as hard as a 15. Same way I learned and adjusted to the 10 scale, so have I adjusted to the new one.
I love the new scale, it's absolutely necessary, by SuperNOVA2, the ratings were meaningless they were so poorly assigned and 10 was utterly vague. All I need to know about a 14 is, it's harder than a 13, but not as hard as a 15. Same way I learned and adjusted to the 10 scale, so have I adjusted to the new one.
Post #34 · Posted at 2010-03-11 05:12:41am 15.3 years ago
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MAX 300 (a 10-footer, no?) is still easier than Arrabbiata
So's SMMM. I'd put the cutoff at one of those.
I also love the new scale. It was probably the most helpful thing for getting me from 13's to 16's new scale with a minimum of death. I didn't have to go, "okay, I should be able to pass Unreal before Uranus S-Oni, what's going on?"; also, I could actually find all the 14's instead of being too overly surprised.
I will say, though, that the new rating scale sucks for anybody in the new 4-9 range, just from talking to friends stuck in there somewhere.

I also love the new scale. It was probably the most helpful thing for getting me from 13's to 16's new scale with a minimum of death. I didn't have to go, "okay, I should be able to pass Unreal before Uranus S-Oni, what's going on?"; also, I could actually find all the 14's instead of being too overly surprised.
I will say, though, that the new rating scale sucks for anybody in the new 4-9 range, just from talking to friends stuck in there somewhere.
Post #35 · Posted at 2010-03-11 11:00:49am 15.3 years ago
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Um... Why Konami not using decimal rating like DDR SOLO again ?
For example : WWW.BlondeGirl (MOMO MIX)
= 7 while D2R
= 7.5
Can't Stop Fallin' In Love (Speedy Mix)
= 9 while Konoko No Nanatsu No Oiwaini
= 9.5
For example : WWW.BlondeGirl (MOMO MIX)


Can't Stop Fallin' In Love (Speedy Mix)


Post #36 · Posted at 2010-03-12 11:54:21pm 15.3 years ago
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"Easy 11 footer like PSM
" = 
I still think PSM
is 17-worthy, about on par with Pluto Relinquish
. This from somebody who still plays both, at about the same success/fail rate.
BTW, Solo didn't use the half-footers IIRC; Dancing Stage TKD/DCT did.


I still think PSM


BTW, Solo didn't use the half-footers IIRC; Dancing Stage TKD/DCT did.
Post #37 · Posted at 2010-03-13 12:07:32am 15.3 years ago
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... what's wrong with it?
I meant if they fixed it from a 9 to a 10.
There is nothing wrong with it except the rating, imo.
I meant if they fixed it from a 9 to a 10.
There is nothing wrong with it except the rating, imo.
Post #38 · Posted at 2010-05-13 01:30:47pm 15.1 years ago
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I think the best way to look at the new scale is basically just to ignore the old one. Yeah, the new 10's are mostly what used to be (or what would have been) 7's, but so are a lot of the 9's and 11's, I would say. There's just too much bleeding over.
Whereas, if I think of the X scale on its own, it mostly makes sense to me. Like, if someone asks me what 14's are like, I can tell them in much more concrete terms than if they had asked what a 9 is like or something.
Whereas, if I think of the X scale on its own, it mostly makes sense to me. Like, if someone asks me what 14's are like, I can tell them in much more concrete terms than if they had asked what a 9 is like or something.
Post #39 · Posted at 2010-06-04 08:37:49am 15.1 years ago
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I thought it was strange how that AM-3P(chaos special) is a 10 on Supernova2, but is a 13 on X2.
Post #40 · Posted at 2010-06-04 09:17:59am 15.1 years ago
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I thought it was strange how that AM-3P(chaos special) is a 10 on Supernova2, but is a 13 on X2.
Uranus S-Oni says hi.