Post #21 · Posted at 2009-08-27 05:19:36am 15.8 years ago
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lololololol.
I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
Post #22 · Posted at 2009-08-27 05:33:18am 15.8 years ago
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lololololol.
I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Arrabbiatta is a 10, and harder than Max 300.I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
Post #23 · Posted at 2009-08-27 05:40:04am 15.8 years ago
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Given my skill level I'd rate Arrabbiatta to the same level of difficulty as Exotic Ethnic, maybe slightly harder.
Post #24 · Posted at 2009-08-27 06:42:47am 15.8 years ago
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Given my skill level I'd rate Arrabbiatta to the same level of difficulty as Exotic Ethnic, maybe slightly harder.
...Let me put it this way.
I've AAed Exotic Ethnic. I can't get halfway through Arrabbiatta. If they were within the same foot rating, I'd expect to be able to at least get an A on Arrabbiata, the way I have on every other 9, on both DDR and ITG.
Post #25 · Posted at 2009-08-27 06:45:10am 15.8 years ago
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lololololol.
I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Arrabbiatta is a 10, and harder than Max 300.I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
Post #26 · Posted at 2009-08-27 07:00:52am 15.8 years ago
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lololololol.
I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Arrabbiatta is a 10, and harder than Max 300.I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
The turns in Arrabiatta at that speed are just stupid.
Post #27 · Posted at 2009-08-27 07:13:05am 15.8 years ago
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lololololol.
I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Arrabbiatta is a 10, and harder than Max 300.I wouldn't mind a 1-30.
Really, as long as Arabbiata and Outer Limits aren't under the number Bag or Orion .78 Civ. is.
The turns in Arrabiatta at that speed are just stupid.What did you expect?
4th notes in that speed with maybe a cross over once in a blue moon?
The chart is alright. It's the stamina that has me fail.
I did pass it once, but it was a D.
Post #28 · Posted at 2009-08-27 07:28:07am 15.8 years ago
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Given my skill level I'd rate Arrabbiatta to the same level of difficulty as Exotic Ethnic, maybe slightly harder.
...Let me put it this way.
I've AAed Exotic Ethnic. I can't get halfway through Arrabbiatta. If they were within the same foot rating, I'd expect to be able to at least get an A on Arrabbiata, the way I have on every other 9, on both DDR and ITG.
I put Arabbiatta on the same level as Afronova. It has the exact same gimmick, and once you "get it", and can pass either song, you can pretty much full-combo both of them?
Post #29 · Posted at 2009-08-27 07:38:27am 15.8 years ago
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Given my skill level I'd rate Arrabbiatta to the same level of difficulty as Exotic Ethnic, maybe slightly harder.
...Let me put it this way.
I've AAed Exotic Ethnic. I can't get halfway through Arrabbiatta. If they were within the same foot rating, I'd expect to be able to at least get an A on Arrabbiata, the way I have on every other 9, on both DDR and ITG.
I put Arabbiatta on the same level as Afronova. It has the exact same gimmick, and once you "get it", and can pass either song, you can pretty much full-combo both of them?
Come back when you can show you've done as well on Arrabbiatta as Afronova.
I've AAed Primeval and FNSMM, and 12 points from AA on the original. Granted, those scores are from Sunday, and it's been over a year since I've tried to play Arrabbiatta, but I was FC'ing Primeval over a year ago too.
Post #30 · Posted at 2009-08-27 07:51:49am 15.8 years ago
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Afronova's steps do not require facing you back to the screen. Arrabiatta requires either spins or odd turns with steps in the middle. Arrabbiata is just stupid. In fact, someone pointed out that it's practically a dumbed down version of a keyboard chart that exists out there. Arrabbiata SHOULD have been exotic ethnic 2.0, all cross overs and streams for the most part.
Post #31 · Posted at 2009-08-27 07:54:57am 15.8 years ago
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Given my skill level I'd rate Arrabbiatta to the same level of difficulty as Exotic Ethnic, maybe slightly harder.
...Let me put it this way.
I've AAed Exotic Ethnic. I can't get halfway through Arrabbiatta. If they were within the same foot rating, I'd expect to be able to at least get an A on Arrabbiata, the way I have on every other 9, on both DDR and ITG.
I put Arabbiatta on the same level as Afronova. It has the exact same gimmick, and once you "get it", and can pass either song, you can pretty much full-combo both of them?
Come back when you can show you've done as well on Arrabbiatta as Afronova.
I've AAed Primeval and FNSMM, and 12 points from AA on the original. Granted, those scores are from Sunday, and it's been over a year since I've tried to play Arrabbiatta, but I was FC'ing Primeval over a year ago too.
I am quite appalled that you mentioned it. XD
I can AA Afronova no bar, whereas I must crossover and break a sweat in Arrabiatta with a bar.
It's as bad as saying that Paranoia is harder or close to Arrabiatta. >_>
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Afronova's steps do not require facing you back to the screen. Arrabiatta requires either spins or odd turns with steps in the middle. Arrabbiata is just stupid. In fact, someone pointed out that it's practically a dumbed down version of a keyboard chart that exists out there. Arrabbiata SHOULD have been exotic ethnic 2.0, all cross overs and streams for the most part.
you forgot the many jumps in it...oh...man...
Arrabiatta with its stream of arrows and jumps.
Post #32 · Posted at 2009-08-27 07:57:28am 15.8 years ago
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edit : Mis-interperited Kyzentun's post, sorry.
Post #33 · Posted at 2009-08-27 08:01:34am 15.8 years ago
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Oh ho ho, you are all so right :{
I just played it, and it seems the turns go the opposite way?
I think it's intended to be a 9, but because of the habbits and techniques most of us have picked up, it just seems very illogical? It seems weirder to me now, than when I first played it.. But then my memory is absolutely terrible.
I just played it, and it seems the turns go the opposite way?
I think it's intended to be a 9, but because of the habbits and techniques most of us have picked up, it just seems very illogical? It seems weirder to me now, than when I first played it.. But then my memory is absolutely terrible.
It's alright, Colors [Ee], Drop Out, and many more songs you probably haven't played in a while will be seen as easy stuff compared to that other stuff.
Post #34 · Posted at 2009-08-27 09:48:59am 15.8 years ago
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Just to clear up any confusion that might remain or might come up, I've uploaded two videos, from just a little bit ago.
One of Afronova at 1.2 music rate.
And one of Arrabbiata (which I have been spelling wrong on accident)
Notice how I scored a good 2% higher on Afronova 1.2x rate, and overall performed it with much less stress.
I think that pretty much settles any argument that Arrabbiata should be a 9, or even an easy 10. It's definitely at the hard end of the 10 range.
One of Afronova at 1.2 music rate.
And one of Arrabbiata (which I have been spelling wrong on accident)
Notice how I scored a good 2% higher on Afronova 1.2x rate, and overall performed it with much less stress.
I think that pretty much settles any argument that Arrabbiata should be a 9, or even an easy 10. It's definitely at the hard end of the 10 range.
Post #35 · Posted at 2009-08-27 10:17:36am 15.8 years ago
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I think that pretty much settles any argument that Arrabbiata should be a 9, or even an easy 10. It's definitely at the hard end of the 10 range.
It's definately nowhere near Afronova on any difficulty scale, I was utterly wrong about that.
I don't know where I'd place it on the "scale of 10s", though. There are a lot of 10s being referred to as easy, which I could never hope to pass, and I A'd Arabbiatta on the first attempt.
Now I'm really interested in exploring what makes songs hard. I'd be really interested to see which songs you consider to be 10s, and how you'd rate them, from easiest to hardest.
Post #36 · Posted at 2009-08-27 10:45:39am 15.8 years ago
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90% of the DDR 10s, I haven't played.
Of the ones I have, and without considering it much, with some ITG 10s tossed in, easiest first:
Pluto Relinquish
(not quite a 10 in my view)
Silver Dream
Paranoia Survivor
Tribal Style
Spin Chicken
Kagami
Max 300
My Favourite Game
Charlene (no mines)
Super Samurai (got a C, been a year, need to replay)
Outer Limits (SN2/Festival chart)
Legend of Max
Arrabbiata
Maxx Unlimited
NGO
Note that most of these could shift 2-3 places either way. This isn't a hard or carefully thought out ranking.
Of the ones I have, and without considering it much, with some ITG 10s tossed in, easiest first:
Pluto Relinquish
(not quite a 10 in my view)Silver Dream
Paranoia Survivor
Tribal Style
Spin Chicken
Kagami
Max 300
My Favourite Game
Charlene (no mines)
Super Samurai (got a C, been a year, need to replay)
Outer Limits (SN2/Festival chart)
Legend of Max
Arrabbiata
Maxx Unlimited
NGO
Note that most of these could shift 2-3 places either way. This isn't a hard or carefully thought out ranking.
Post #37 · Posted at 2009-08-27 11:35:18am 15.8 years ago
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Im in favor of just doing what DM and GF does and just make a scale 1-100. Theres nothing wrong with that and Im surprised they havent done that yet. Its just so much more accurate if they do it right.
Post #38 · Posted at 2009-08-27 11:38:13am 15.8 years ago
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The problem is that leaves a lot more room for error, and with the way people bitch about ratings being inaccurate, that would only lead to disaster.
I mean, I have no problem with it, but...
I mean, I have no problem with it, but...
Post #39 · Posted at 2009-08-27 11:42:07am 15.8 years ago
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thats why i said if they do it right, as in rate them correctly.
I'd do it for free if they'd let me. I have a pretty good idea on how to rate them in order.
I'd do it for free if they'd let me. I have a pretty good idea on how to rate them in order.
Post #40 · Posted at 2009-08-27 11:44:37am 15.8 years ago
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Im in favor of just doing what DM and GF does and just make a scale 1-100. Theres nothing wrong with that and Im surprised they havent done that yet. Its just so much more accurate if they do it right.
I believe they recently changed the rating system by adding a decimal for the next installment of GF/DM.
Konami made flashing 10s to aggravate the ddr community and for threads like these to appear in every ddr-related site. Everyone knows what's hard and what isn't, but people are too damn egotistical to come to a general consensus.
I'm pretty sure even Konami had no idea how to use "flashing 10s" at the time as it made no sense.