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Post #361 · Posted at 2011-03-03 06:41:41am 14.3 years ago

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Apologies, work has been brutal... literally pulling 12 - 16 hour shifts leaves me with no time to generate files. I'll post some for fun later on!

Post #362 · Posted at 2011-03-03 08:48:11am 14.3 years ago

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Feuer frei
I Drove All Night
Club Can't Handle Me
Werewolf Boyfriend

Bye Bye Bye - 1
Feuer frei - 3

Black UFO - 0
I Drove All Night - 5

Club Can't Handle Me - 1
Let Me - 3

D.A.N.C.E. (MSTRKRFT Remix) - 0
Playing With Fire - 3

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What is a Snake (T2Kazuya) - auto advance

Radio Hardcore - auto advance

Boom Digi Da - 0
Werewolf Boyfriend - 5

Angel In The Night - auto advance

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Post #363 · Posted at 2011-03-03 11:12:31am 14.3 years ago

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Black UFO vs I Drove All Night

Black UFO
Heavy
First, too many jacks for my liking on this songs. Jacks at this speed I find unfun if used too much. Just pesonal taste.
Masure 19->20 you do a cross over that's interupted and breaks flow. I'm ok with double steps but not at this speed.
Measure 50: starts a freeze where the last step makes you want to turn the wrong way. Which is fine until you learn it but it caught me off guard.

I Drove All Night
Heavy
This chart was slow enough that the flow breaks were forgivable, however there were a few issues with jump placements requiring quick twisting.

Winner: I Drove All Night

Club Can't Handle Me vs Let Me
Club Can't Handle Me
Heavy
This was a freaking tough decision. I loved the flow of this song, I love the alternating between facing left and right and the variance in the rhtyh, Excellent chart.

Let Me
Heavy
I'll admit, I didn't like this chart until I tried it on pad. This was an amazing chart. Easy for a 9 but I suppose it's rated right. This was also an excellent chart.

So over all, this decision was based on what my wife said I looked like I was having more fun playing:
Winner: Club Can't Handle Me

D.A.N.C.E. (MSTRKRFT Remix) vs. Playing With Fire
D.A.N.C.E. (MSTRKRFT Remix)
Heavy
I loved the spins employed in this chart. However, it felt extremely dry :-\

Playing With Fire
Heavy
Excellent use of double stepping with freezes and continue to stay in flow. I loved this chart.

Winner: Playing with Fire.

Abstaining from any other voting kthx.

Bye Bye Bye - 1
Feuer frei - 3

Black UFO - 0
I Drove All Night - 6

Club Can't Handle Me - 2
Let Me - 3

D.A.N.C.E. (MSTRKRFT Remix) - 0
Playing With Fire - 4

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What is a Snake (T2Kazuya) - auto advance

Radio Hardcore - auto advance

Boom Digi Da - 0
Werewolf Boyfriend - 5

Angel In The Night - auto advance

Post #364 · Posted at 2011-03-03 02:50:24pm 14.3 years ago

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I cast my votes for the following:

Feuer frei
Club Can't Handle Me
Playing With Fire
Werewolf Boyfriend

Bye Bye Bye - 1
Feuer frei - 4

Black UFO - 0
I Drove All Night - 6

Club Can't Handle Me - 3
Let Me - 3

D.A.N.C.E. (MSTRKRFT Remix) - 0
Playing With Fire - 5

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What is a Snake (T2Kazuya) - auto advance

Radio Hardcore - auto advance

Boom Digi Da - 0
Werewolf Boyfriend - 6

Angel In The Night - auto advance

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Post #365 · Posted at 2011-03-03 05:02:03pm 14.3 years ago

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Hey, at least let me know if you guys liked Angel In The Night! I went for a more technical chart this time and would like to know if it turned out ok.
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Post #366 · Posted at 2011-03-03 07:58:14pm 14.3 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Angel in the Night:
m1-18: What song were you listening to when you stepped this section? It seems to have nothing to do with the music.
m27: I think 8th taps would go better with the music here.
Everything else: You did a very good job following the music for the rest of the chart. I ddin't spoit any doublesteps at all.

Black UFO DH:
m6: That jump has no business being there.
m15: 4th doublestep midmeasure.
m18: 8th candle doublestep at the beginning of the measure. m17 places your right foot on the 4ths, but m18 onwards are written with your left foot on the 4th notes.
m20: 4th doublestep at the end of the measure.
m26: Doublestep first step of the measure. Previous measures place left foot on down.
m35: 4th footswitch midmeasure. Did you intend this?
m36: The hold needs to be lengthened to make it clear that the left foot should hit the down arrow.
m37: The narrow stance established by the rest of the chart makes the down taps at the end awkward.
m38: 8th doublestep at the end of the measure.
m42: Another footswitch. Intentional?
m45: Footswitch to keep the hold and not be awkward.
m61: Stance problem again.
m62: Another footswitch. The natural thing to do is to use the right foot or the right arrow after an up+down jump.
m64: Another footswitch.
m64-65 feels empty.
m68: Doublestep between 16th triples.
m68 feels empty.
m71: 8th doublestep midemeasure.

Black UFO SX:
m10: That second jump has no business there.
m13: 8th doublestep midmeasure.
m19: Footswitch at the beginning.
m27: Awkward. You either have to doublestep at the end, or do the jump after crossing over.
m43: Putting the crossover before the jump tells players to do the jump crossed over. But the steps after the jump are not written with that in mind.
I liked your choice of where to put hands.


Boom Digi Da DX:



Bye Bye Bye SH:
The bpm seems doubled to me, since the beats in the music are cojming every other beat in the chart and the prominent hits at the beginning of each musical measure come every other measure in the chart. I can see the basis for your decision though, as most people prefer a bpm between 100 and 200, and the natural bpm would have made your slow section more troublesome.
m41: I keep reading that jump at the beinning as being crossed over, but I see that's not what you intended.
m60: Doublestep midmeasure.
m61: Why no jump on the big drum hit at the end? Other, less prominent, sounds get jumps.
m63: Doublestep beginning of measure.
m64 onwards: I like the crossovers in the section, and I think the rest would be more fun if it was like this.


CLub Can't Handle Me SH:
m12: Ambiguous step.
m24-33: What song are these steps for?
m45: First step is misleading.
m52-60: Unrelated steps again.
I can see how you might have thought that it adds variety to ignore the music for sections of the chart, but the vocals in those sections are different enough from the rest that you could follow them and still have the variety you want.
This really needs a challenge charts that follows the more technical rhythms of the singing.

DANCE SH:
I'm not going to review this because every moment looking at the chart makes me want to throw away your file and restep it myself. So many ignored rhythms, this should not be a 6.


Feuer frei DH:
Starts on first sound in song. Good place for this song, but don't do it for every song.
m9: Doublestep at end of measure.
m38: It's not a doublestep in the middle of the measure, but it's still one of those awkward patterns I dislike.
m53: m49 and m51 lead the player to expect m53 to start on the left pad.
m101-103: Nice. Initially, this looked odd, but now I see that you intend these measures to be done while crossed over.
m108 onwards: Forgot to clip the end.
I would have stepped the chart with 8th gallops to follow the music, but it works this way too.


I Drove ALl Night SX:
m4: Ambiguous step.
m5: Misleading step.
m16: Lengthen the holds to make your intent clear.
m19: Ambiguous step.
m25: Doublestep at beginning.
Stepped the fadeout at the end. Make a better cut next time.


Let Me SH:
m24-31: Needs to follow the vocals better. With the technical rhythms the rest of the chart has, it seems odd that the 16ths are ignored here.
Ending should be rolls.


Playing with Fire DH:
m23,46: The drum should be stepped the way it is in m37.
m19,29,42: Same story, different rhythm.
A rather good chart.


Radio Hardcore SH:
m10-17: This section may seem lacking to others, but keeping it 4ths does a good job of accenting how this section is musically differnt from the rest.
m26: I think the 8th triple should be taps.
m30: Same.
m32: It bugs me a lot when there are sounds that should be stepped inside of a stop. Every stop in the song has this problem, but it seems it's because of the way the song is, the main beat stops, but other things play anyway.
m32: Ambiguous step.
m47: Needs steps following the 12ths in the music.
m49: Doublestep end of measure.
m64: 8ths should be taps again.
m68: Same.


Werewolf Boyfriend SH:
m19: Put those 16ths in.
m23: Same.
m32: Yeah, it's the song, but I still dislike stops like this.
m55-56: 16ths again.
m59-60,60-61: Again.
m85-86: Again.
m89-90,90-91: Again.
There were lots of other 16ths that you didn't step, but they were in the background and would have bumped it up to a 10, which you probably weren't aiming for. So I just marked the ones that were in the foreground.


What is a Snake? SX:
Jumptrash. Throw out all those lame pointless jumps.
m56: Doublestep to avoid doing 16th triples crossed over.
If you're going to try to make an 11, at least try to step the rhythm of the song for more of it. As is, it's more of a really stupid 10, like Unreal.



Votes:
Feuer Frei (gotta support the person that made a doubles chart)
I Drove All Night. Normally, I would have voted for the doubles chart, but it was too poorly made.
Let Me. It does a better job of following the music.
Playing With Fire. See my notes.

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Post #367 · Posted at 2011-03-03 09:21:13pm 14.3 years ago

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My awesome votes that shouldn't count but do.

Bye Bye Bye
I Drove All Night
Club Can't Handle Me
Werewolf Boyfriend

Post #368 · Posted at 2011-03-03 10:08:24pm 14.3 years ago

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Bye Bye Bye SH:
The bpm seems doubled to me, since the beats in the music are cojming every other beat in the chart and the prominent hits at the beginning of each musical measure come every other measure in the chart. I can see the basis for your decision though, as most people prefer a bpm between 100 and 200, and the natural bpm would have made your slow section more troublesome.

Quote: Kyzentun

m41: I keep reading that jump at the beinning as being crossed over, but I see that's not what you intended.

Yeah the intention there is to be facing right and rotating your body clockwise and coming back from the cross over and rotating clockwise again and coming back.

Quote: Kyzentun

m60: Doublestep midmeasure.
m63: Doublestep beginning of measure.

I think my reference of measures might be off but the only double steps I notice is during the slow down with the freeze arrows, is this what you are referring to?

Post #369 · Posted at 2011-03-03 10:15:37pm 14.3 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun
DANCE SH:
I'm not going to review this because every moment looking at the chart makes me want to throw away your file and restep it myself. So many ignored rhythms, this should not be a 6.
Then do it,it will just end up an overly hard chart with a million hands.
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Post #370 · Posted at 2011-03-03 10:18:09pm 14.3 years ago

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m60: Doublestep midmeasure.
m63: Doublestep beginning of measure.
I think my reference of measures might be off but the only double steps I notice is during the slow down with the freeze arrows, is this what you are referring to?
No, I think my numbers are off. I was using the numbers stepmania's edit mode showed, but now that I look back in the chart viewer, those numbers seem off by 1.
m61 has the hold on up for your right foot, and your left foot hits left and down. Then your left foot is used to hit the left arrow leading to the next hold. That's what I'm counting as a doublestep there.
The jump at the beginning of m64 puts your right foot on down, then you use it again for right. I see it's one of your crossed over jumps, so I probably shouldn't have counted it. Confusion like this is why I prefer to avoid crossed over jumps on singles, most people won't think to do the jumps crossed over.
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Post #371 · Posted at 2011-03-04 12:47:38am 14.3 years ago

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"Sarah/Autumn"
Quote: Kyzentun
Angel in the Night:
m1-18: What song were you listening to when you stepped this section? It seems to have nothing to do with the music.
m27: I think 8th taps would go better with the music here.
Everything else: You did a very good job following the music for the rest of the chart. I ddin't spoit any doublesteps at all.

The first part of the song was going to the guitar and drums. I didn't step out all of the rhythms because I wanted an easier opening; seems it turned out DDR-style (*sweatdrop*).
For m27, yeah that works well. I opted for a breather there, but I could see that being catchy. Thanks for the advice.

How does everyone feel about 2-jacks (red-blue on same arrow)? I think that as long as they're at a reasonable speed, they can add a good emphasis to a section. For instance, Electro Tuned is completely reasonable by me. Heck, Trim is a bit on the fast side but still fine (other than kicking my ass, anyway).
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Post #372 · Posted at 2011-03-04 12:52:15am 14.3 years ago

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Feuer frei
I Drove All Night
Werewolf Boyfriend
Playing With Fire.


Someone else is gonna have to figure out the tallies.

Post #373 · Posted at 2011-03-04 01:11:10am 14.3 years ago

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I think someone deleted their votes at some point. I'll go back and tally them on paper in a second.

I re-tallied on paper. The following people have voted :

Telperion
Tyma
Pandemonium X (voted for Playing With Fire but didn't add it to the tally)
Oni
Chewphoria
Daiz
ziv348
Kyzentun
Aegis
Pie-kun

Running Tally


Bye Bye Bye - 2
Feuer frei - 6

Black UFO - 0
I Drove All Night - 9

Club Can't Handle Me - 4
Let Me - 4

D.A.N.C.E. (MSTRKRFT Remix) - 0
Playing With Fire - 7

Boom Digi Da - 0
Werewolf Boyfriend - 8

Post #374 · Posted at 2011-03-04 03:31:51pm 14.3 years ago

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"Sarah/Autumn"
Bye Bye Bye
Black UFO
Club Can't Handle Me
D.A.N.C.E.
Kyz Is A Dick Tongue

Bye Bye Bye - 3
Feuer frei - 6

Black UFO - 1
I Drove All Night - 9

Club Can't Handle Me - 5
Let Me - 4

D.A.N.C.E. (MSTRKRFT Remix) - 1
Playing With Fire - 7

Boom Digi Da - 0
Werewolf Boyfriend - 9


Individual reviews:
@Bye Bye Bye: This song was a ton of fun to pad, especially on Standard with 8x Brake. Forgot how much I loved this song.
@Black UFO: Song kinda reminds me of Synchronized Love for a bit. Fun Heavy steps, and I'll want to pad those Challenge steps if I ever get to that point haha.
@Club Can't Handle Me: Ahh, this match was a real tossup. In the end I gave this to yours for having graphics and lyrics.
@DANCE: Fun little steps and I like the song better. It's so short, though! (*just noticed Pandy never designated a minimum song length*) I would've put a freeze arrow for the measure after last to designate an ending, since Heavy ends so abruptly.
@Werewolf Boyfriend: Wow Niq, I would've thought you'd add Challenge steps to that. Still fun steps, though.

HEY KYZ I CAN'T FIND YOUR SIMFILE ANYWHERE SO I CAN'T RATE IT! >.>

Play my game Arcana Seal of Rimsala (SNES)!

Post #375 · Posted at 2011-03-04 09:25:43pm 14.3 years ago

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Next round is set...


Telperion
ZIv348

Tyma
Oni-91

2nd seed

Daiz
Braeden

Pie-Kun
Chewy

3rd seed

TaroNuke
Pandemonium X

NIQ9
TimeSpaceMage

4th seed

Darkstorm091
Adamn

Kyzentun
Astroman129

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Post #376 · Posted at 2011-03-04 09:42:04pm 14.3 years ago

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Post #377 · Posted at 2011-03-04 09:51:18pm 14.3 years ago

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Post #378 · Posted at 2011-03-04 11:01:46pm 14.3 years ago

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Post #379 · Posted at 2011-03-04 11:13:15pm 14.3 years ago

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"Sarah/Autumn"
<3 Aegis
OH GOD I'M UP AGAINST NIQ D:
I may have to make doubles steps this week...
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Post #380 · Posted at 2011-03-05 01:32:00am 14.3 years ago

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Yeah I'm going to include at least one doubles chart this week. Some people reviewing them has actually influence me to spend a bit of time and do it.
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