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Post #301 · Posted at 2011-06-24 07:52:51am 13.9 years ago

Offline agentmargo
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"DDR-ing regularly again!~"
You guys will get them. I probably would have got this earlier if I played the easier stuff.

Post #302 · Posted at 2011-06-24 09:29:09am 13.9 years ago

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Quote: Lucie
My scores on SM are lower too... Cause the arrows are so DDR like and way harder to read.
ITG noteskin is so much better!
It`s just the noteskin...
I have same speedmods and stuff...
Oh I really don`t like DDR/SM arrows!

CF`s ??
ITG PC = SM4.0
ITG Noteskins = SM4.0 compatible
Why would you use default SM noteskins? The 3-D ITG arrows / rolls / mines are awesomely awesome.

One of these two may have the ITG noteskins (does that mean your not using the ITG PC themes either?)
http://www.mediafire.com/?d5zgsk9hbovoouk
http://www.mediafire.com/?vvej6vecwz0xxx4

SM4 with ITG PC theme = best setup I've ever had. Online mode, working tutorial, working survival, working modified courses, working calorie counter.

Post #303 · Posted at 2011-06-24 10:11:55am 13.9 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Lucie's huge list of speed mods is why when I actually had a lot of mods on SM 4.0, I split it into 2 lines. One for the 16 normal mods, one for the 16 Cmods.
Seriously, DancingNinja, you need to split yours into multiple lines, it'll be tons easier to use. You just need to have an entry on each line that has nothing for the mod section.
I also had lines for Tiny in 10% increments from 0 to 200, same for a couple other mods. Beat I had jump from 200% to 1000%.

People use default noteskins because it's easier than wandering a maze of wobshites to find broken links to notskins that maybe work.

"working calorie counter"
Hahaha, right. I'll believe that when it actually has a way to measure your heartrate and breathing rate. Something that can only tell when you press buttons is inherently limited by not knowing your actual movements.

I did not start getting tristars until about a year ago, when I had been playing for 3 years. Even now, I can only get them on simple easy things.

I'm going to a sightread ITG tournament on Saturday, should be fun. I expect to place around 8th or 9th out of 16, if that well.
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Post #304 · Posted at 2011-06-24 11:21:09am 13.9 years ago

Offline Dreamboy
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Triple-starring something won't that big of a deal for you Lucie -- I have two triple stars, Baby Don't You Want Me and Hustle Beach on easy;)

No offense to Margo or anyone else, but I don't think it is wise to become overly reliant on certain modifiers -- maybe you should get used to different speeds.
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Post #305 · Posted at 2011-06-24 11:44:35am 13.9 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun
"working calorie counter"
Hahaha, right. I'll believe that when it actually has a way to measure your heartrate and breathing rate. Something that can only tell when you press buttons is inherently limited by not knowing your actual movements.
Okay, well it works better than most. The cals burned are alot less than other similar dance games but it does only give a certain # of cals per step based on your weight so no matter how fast or slow you go... Just seems like an hour straight of StepMania with this calorie counter is in the same range as an hour of less intense cardio workouts like running or aerobic classes based on heart rate calorie measuring devices.

I was really just happy that it only gave me 35 or so Kcals for Max 300 when DDR would give me almost 90 Kcals and I'm aware of some ITG machines that seemed to be off by a factor of 10 (350 Kcals?).

So I really meant the estimate of calories burned seems much more realistic than any other dance game I've played.

Post #306 · Posted at 2011-06-24 05:56:53pm 13.9 years ago

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Quote: Margo
You guys will get them
Doubt it LOL. Maybe back in February I had a chance, but not now. Also I'm taking a hiatus from pad play, especially singles (I've become so disheartened I feel like quitting singles play on pad). It's one thing to lose it all and get terrible scores, it's another to not make a single ounce of progress.

Quote: hellrazor
ITG PC = SM4.0
Hang on, I thought ITG was based off the SM 3.95 codebase no? Confused

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Why would you use default SM noteskins?
Because Note in SM 3.9 is the best noteskin I've ever used, other noteskins are too flashy/annoying to be accurate with. Cell is nice, but the judgement flash is waaaay too bright compared to SM. Tongue

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SM4 with ITG PC theme = best setup I've ever had.
To each their own. I prefer OITG Beta 2 (this version is what I have) since M mods mean you can play a song with all the BPM changes intact at your preferred BPM (not foolproof, but it's still a nice touch Smile ).

Quote: Kyzentun
you need to split yours into multiple lines, it'll be tons easier to use. You just need to have an entry on each line that has nothing for the mod section.
How? I've tried using Speed and Speed2 in the metrics before but one always takes precedence over the other; faceplanting the keyboard was the only productive thing my experiment produced. Otherwise I would've convinced the technician to add .25 mods on the ITG2 in Yarmouth by now. Cool While I'm at it:

- How does splitting the mods work? Does it mean all X mods on one line and all C/M mods on another? Or can it be in any order I wish? Also can I put 12 mods on one line (line 1) and the same 12 mods on another line (line 2) followed by an additional 16 on the same line? (arbitrary example)

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Hahaha, right. I'll believe that when it actually has a way to measure your heartrate and breathing rate. Something that can only tell when you press buttons is inherently limited by not knowing your actual movements.
I wish I could +10 you right now. Big Grin Honestly hellrazor, there's so many flaws in your logic, no offence. Like, some people play on their toes, some decide to flatfoot, some move all over the pads and waste energy, how does this "perfect" system compensate for all of that? Then you have those who bracket, care to explain how this would offset that too? Simple, it can't. I might be one of the worst ITG players ever, but as someone who's managed to jog 5 miles the other day, I know ITG isn't absolute when it comes to exercise. It's fun, it's tiring, but I wouldn't say it = true exercise, let alone life. Tongue

Quote: Dreamboy
maybe you should get used to different speeds.
Honestly, this comment offended me. Sorry if I don't like playing songs with retarded speedups/slowdowns like Vertex/Bloodrush. Sorry if I've only completed 1 marathon on foot (Caddywhompus Regular) and find marathons hard on pad. Everyone plays the game how they want and not everyone wants to leap out of their comfort zone or focus on awkward/technical songs.

Post #307 · Posted at 2011-06-24 10:24:51pm 13.9 years ago

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Quote: DancingNinja
Quote: hellrazor
ITG PC = SM4.0
Hang on, I thought ITG was based off the SM 3.95 codebase no? Confused
ITG1 AC - 3.95 (basically a heavily customized 3.9 build)
ITG2 AC - 3.95
ITG PC - 4.0
ITG3 AC - 4.0 (intention, never happened)

Post #308 · Posted at 2011-06-25 09:18:15am 13.9 years ago

Offline Dreamboy
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I didn't mean to offend, DancingNinja, my apologiesHappy' It was just a suggestion, so anyone who reads is free to follow or not. I just thought it might be easier to handle songs with speed-ups and slow-downs if one had a wider reading range, but it is okay if one would prefer to stick with what's comfortable. It might be a little more difficult to progress, but it is totally up to you -- the way you play is ultimately based on your decision alone.
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Post #309 · Posted at 2011-06-25 09:26:16am 13.9 years ago

Offline agentmargo
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Quote: Dreamboy
No offense to Margo or anyone else, but I don't think it is wise to become overly reliant on certain modifiers -- maybe you should get used to different speeds.
I've played on different speeds for years and still do when I practice, it's just that I use x2, x2.5, and x3 the most because they are my favorites. I can read stuff lower and some stuff higher, but I don't get the best scores off of it.

Post #310 · Posted at 2011-06-25 10:40:44am 13.9 years ago

Offline hellrazor
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Quote: agentmargo
Quote: Dreamboy
No offense to Margo or anyone else, but I don't think it is wise to become overly reliant on certain modifiers -- maybe you should get used to different speeds.
I've played on different speeds for years and still do when I practice, it's just that I use x2, x2.5, and x3 the most because they are my favorites. I can read stuff lower and some stuff higher, but I don't get the best scores off of it.
My favorites are C450 (for 6's and under, maybe C400 if it's really slow), C500 for 7-11's, C550 for 11-12's, C600 for 13-14's.
I may do a x3 if I like the song's speed gimmicks (like Stop And Go), or Survival modes I stick to the speed mods that were coded into the course.

Post #311 · Posted at 2011-06-25 11:16:58am 13.9 years ago

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Quote: DancingNinja
Quote: hellrazor
ITG PC = SM4.0
Hang on, I thought ITG was based off the SM 3.95 codebase no? Confused

Also, the OpenITG project currently uses StepMania 3.95 as its engine. (In addition to what hellrazor said)

Post #312 · Posted at 2011-06-25 11:37:38am 13.9 years ago

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Post #313 · Posted at 2011-06-25 12:21:57pm 13.9 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Quote: DancingNinja
Quote: Kyzentun
you need to split yours into multiple lines, it'll be tons easier to use. You just need to have an entry on each line that has nothing for the mod section.
How? I've tried using Speed and Speed2 in the metrics before but one always takes precedence over the other; faceplanting the keyboard was the only productive thing my experiment produced. Otherwise I would've convinced the technician to add .25 mods on the ITG2 in Yarmouth by now. Cool While I'm at it:
IIRC, you need a line for each section that looks like this:

Speed,1=";name,x1"

Note that the section that normally has "mod,1x" is empty, and there's just the semicolon separator.
This gives you a selection to pick that doesn't apply a modifier. The default line for the section might need to be the same way.

Also, I couldn't jog 5 miles if my life depended on it. I don't think I could jog even 1 mile.
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Post #314 · Posted at 2011-06-25 10:51:08pm 13.9 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun

IIRC, you need a line for each section that looks like this:

Speed,1=";name,x1"

Note that the section that normally has "mod,1x" is empty, and there's just the semicolon separator.
This gives you a selection to pick that doesn't apply a modifier. The default line for the section might need to be the same way.

So basically I stick to Speed and Speed2 like I tried before, but use "Speed,1=;name,x1" at the beginning of each section right? Smile

Also I'm surprised that I can jog further than you; I'm so used to the "everyone's better than me" mentality it's surprising when I find people who are worse off than I am. Even in my strongest areas (programming, IT repairs) I find it so easy to find people who are way better than I am. I just want to be good at something, y'know?

Post #315 · Posted at 2011-06-26 09:08:02am 13.9 years ago

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Post #316 · Posted at 2011-06-26 09:53:02am 13.9 years ago

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Quote: DancingNinja
Also I'm surprised that I can jog further than you; I'm so used to the "everyone's better than me" mentality it's surprising when I find people who are worse off than I am. Even in my strongest areas (programming, IT repairs) I find it so easy to find people who are way better than I am. I just want to be good at something, y'know?
Your pride will lead to destruction, humility is the best way to live. Just be happy being who you are, play hard, try hard, enjoy life, but don't be upset because you aren't the best. There's much work to be done, much good, much love to spread, you should just praise those who are better than you, learn from them and get better but don't ever be jealous because that is a path toward a hateful destructive life.

Post #317 · Posted at 2011-06-26 10:21:55am 13.9 years ago

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don't be upset because you aren't the best.
It's not so much being the best that concerns me dude, I know it'll never happen. Honestly, I'm more concerned about being the worst than trying to dethrone the king; no-one will respect last place. On another note, I realised that I'm definitely not the worse at dance games and even if I was the best, my cousin made a legit point, you can't put that shit on a CV. Tongue

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you should just praise those who are better than you
Even if they look down on me with contempt because I'm not up to their standards? Sorry, but I'd rather drink a gallon of arsenic than bow down to those people; it's why I try to judge people by their personality rather than ability. I was only cautious here because I've had a lot of harsh experiences with the dance game community, particularly on the elitism front.

This is my main concern though: let's say I apply for a software developer position at a prestigious company and nail the application. Now some hot shot shows up out of nowhere and also gets a job. Some time later the company is doing badly and has to make people redundant. Guess who'll get cut? Me. And many others but people like Mr Hotshot remain while I struggle to come with terms with losing my valued career. THAT's why I'm concerned. Understand now?

P.S. I hate to be rude, but as an atheist, religion will not help. Had you preached I'd have probably snapped, I honestly cannot stand preachers.
P.P.S. Apologies for derailing the thread but don't just blame me. Tongue

Post #318 · Posted at 2011-06-26 12:31:33pm 13.9 years ago

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Quote: DancingNinja
Even if they look down on me with contempt because I'm not up to their standards? Sorry, but I'd rather drink a gallon of arsenic than bow down to those people; it's why I try to judge people by their personality rather than ability. I was only cautious here because I've had a lot of harsh experiences with the dance game community, particularly on the elitism front.

This is my main concern though: let's say I apply for a software developer position at a prestigious company and nail the application. Now some hot shot shows up out of nowhere and also gets a job. Some time later the company is doing badly and has to make people redundant. Guess who'll get cut? Me. And many others but people like Mr Hotshot remain while I struggle to come with terms with losing my valued career. THAT's why I'm concerned. Understand now?

P.S. I hate to be rude, but as an atheist, religion will not help. Had you preached I'd have probably snapped, I honestly cannot stand preachers.
P.P.S. Apologies for derailing the thread but don't just blame me. Tongue
Eh, atheists are as much people as everyone else, what you choose to believe in isn't as big a deal as how you choose to live your life and how you treat others around you, in the end I believe the same one who put me on this planet has a plan for me and you here and now, and I also believe we'll die then live again on this planet with a better plan for me and you here but later, considering we're here I fully expect we'll both be around then as well, not like it's every day a dancing ninja is born.

Anyways I'm an electrical engineer, I've been working for over 7 years now and I thoroughly enjoy the challenge of the job and the people I work with. I'm not the best electrical engineer but I try and in the end we all work toward the good of the company that hired us and for worker safety. If there are lay-offs and another hot-shot electrical engineer stays while I'm gone, so be it, there are other companies in the world and I now have 7 years experience in the nuclear industry, and I'm much better off having learned from my co-workers. It's not worth being jealous of my co-workers since they're mostly nice people and we're working toward a common goal. I've also found that it's NOT a persons abilities that keep them employed or gain their employment, it's their dedication. Most people who get terminated at my job were victims of their deceit or lies and were caught doing something against company policy.

I can't stand preachers either, I think they give a bad name to Christians in general, that's another that suffers from elitism "think like me or be damned", no thanks I'd rather be damned than to live in their hateful mindset. What's interesting though is the guy in that video is really neat to listen to, I think he gets alot of what being a Christian is really about correctly, probably why so many "preachers" hate on him and call him a blasphemer... For a good listen, I give his latest book a thumbs up: http://www.mediafire.com/?fmgx9up2a5q30p5

Back on topic, I still haven't passed Summer ~Speedy Mix~, why is that song so friggin' tough for me? I can pass most other 13's but I always get knocked out at the end run of Summer, any advice? I don't do heel-toe or flat-foot or future, has anyone passed Summer ~Speedy Mix~ with a plain bar and toe style doing all the turns to hit the arrows?

Post #319 · Posted at 2011-06-26 07:38:57pm 13.9 years ago

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Last bit of off topicness (I personally don't mind, people don't use this thread that much compared to AIJ's achievement thread):

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not like it's every day a dancing ninja is born
Dunno why but this made me smile. Suppose I should relish the fact that I'm unique and play to my strengths while working on my weaknesses? Smile

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I've also found that it's NOT a persons abilities that keep them employed or gain their employment, it's their dedication
Really? Wow, I would have no problems keeping a job if it's well paid and is one I loved; I'm loyal as fuck. (Y)

That's good you can't stand preachers also. Harold Camping is just a fruitcake who tried to convince people about a false apocalypse, probably to indoctrinate others to convert to Christianity. Which is completely out of order, the idea of faith is meant to be discovering God for yourself and not being forced/blackmailed into following a religion. As a logical being, I cannot fathom the idea of believing in the unknown, but respect those who do.

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I can pass most other 13's but I always get knocked out at the end run of Summer, any advice?
It might be you're used to playing custom 13s with long 130/140BPM 16th runs, ones with broken up 170 16th runs (The Shining Polaris) or ones with easy patterns (I nearly passed Uber Rave last year as my first 13, patterns are quite easy but it's just the ending run). Summer is awkward since it just chucks in crossovers and has 3 nasty runs at the end; gotta love officials eh? I can't offer much more advice apart from trying a slower rate mod on the last 3 runs or trying something similar, I have yet to pass a 13 but currently I'm stuck on 11s. Sad Hope this helps pal (Y)

Post #320 · Posted at 2011-06-26 08:23:40pm 13.9 years ago

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I don't do heel-toe or flat-foot or future, has anyone passed Summer ~Speedy Mix~ with a plain bar and toe style doing all the turns to hit the arrows?
Now I want to try this, haha. I think I could do it. Too bad I'm really far away from any ITG machines right now :/
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