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Post #301 · Posted at 2012-10-28 01:09:45am 12.8 years ago

Offline Gpop
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Oh man yes REDALiCE finally in a non-IIDX/Sound Voltex game and in DDR. Really happy.

(Watch this becomes DDR X4 vs. 5th mix, let's go long versions and terrible cropped banners!)

Post #302 · Posted at 2012-10-28 01:12:06am 12.8 years ago

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Quote: Gpop
(Watch this becomes DDR X4 vs. 5th mix, let's go long versions and terrible cropped banners!)

There's no indication of this what so ever.

Post #303 · Posted at 2012-10-28 01:15:48am 12.8 years ago

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There's no DDR X4 either.
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Post #304 · Posted at 2012-10-28 01:28:36am 12.8 years ago

Offline Gpop
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Quote: Daiz
Quote: Gpop
(Watch this becomes DDR X4 vs. 5th mix, let's go long versions and terrible cropped banners!)

There's no indication of this what so ever.

/sarcasm

Post #305 · Posted at 2012-10-28 04:00:34am 12.8 years ago

Offline mageman17
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Of course, it's also possible that certain songs may never get unlocked on overseas cabinets.

I was totally supporting the "1 arcade machine, 1 songlist (somehow)" tagline of the series.

X2 hit it on the head when it had a license list that appealed to all regions and a KO list that everyone was mostly familiar with (X2 PS2/HP3).
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Post #306 · Posted at 2012-10-28 05:47:07am 12.8 years ago

Offline FlameyBoy
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I'm reminded of a similar question/argument, that Konami could theoretically make one huge ddr CS game with like 200+ songs, but it would cost so much to make and mass produce for sale that it wouldn't be very cost-effective, not to mention they'd probably charge a lot more just to make up for the money spent making such a huge title. For any good business, it's all about money and time invested in a product, and finding the best way to make a profit and still produce a quality product, or at least that's how I see it.

The only thing that would make it cost more is using more than one disc of data or buying a bunch of licenses. DDR X arcade's hard drive has something like 7-8GB of data on it; small enough for the entire game to fit on a dual-layer DVD. A game with every song in every DDR game (with unique videos for none of them) would likely be around 10-12GB, which would fit on a single single-layer Blu-ray or Wii U disc, and probably on whatever the Xbox 720 uses too.

There really isn't much basis for that.

Post #307 · Posted at 2012-10-28 06:14:41am 12.8 years ago

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Quote: FlameyBoy
Quote: KNS-17
I'm reminded of a similar question/argument, that Konami could theoretically make one huge ddr CS game with like 200+ songs, but it would cost so much to make and mass produce for sale that it wouldn't be very cost-effective, not to mention they'd probably charge a lot more just to make up for the money spent making such a huge title. For any good business, it's all about money and time invested in a product, and finding the best way to make a profit and still produce a quality product, or at least that's how I see it.

The only thing that would make it cost more is using more than one disc of data or buying a bunch of licenses. DDR X arcade's hard drive has something like 7-8GB of data on it; small enough for the entire game to fit on a dual-layer DVD. A game with every song in every DDR game (with unique videos for none of them) would likely be around 10-12GB, which would fit on a single single-layer Blu-ray or Wii U disc, and probably on whatever the Xbox 720 uses too.

There really isn't much basis for that.

You are correct, but Konami would never do this, it greatly limits how much money they can make. Making a dozen games with different songs nets far more money than pooling all of their resources to make one Goliath of a game.

Sadly, most companies care only about revenue, not the customers.
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Post #308 · Posted at 2012-10-28 06:17:39am 12.8 years ago

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Sadly, most companies care only about revenue, not the customers.

What brings in revenue? Customers.

Post #309 · Posted at 2012-10-28 06:47:03am 12.8 years ago

Offline echomaster21
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Maybe this machine can access all of the songs DDR has ever had

Post #310 · Posted at 2012-10-28 07:03:32am 12.8 years ago

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U-san confirmed to a player that NAOKI will have new music in the game.

Big Grin

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According to u-san, a new interface and new boss songs will be added about once every 6 months.

I am totally fine with this. I expect after a while they'll issue new upgrade kits/machines to update hardware or things they cannot update online as necessary, but as a new form for BEMANI, I think this could be fantastic. Smile
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Post #311 · Posted at 2012-10-28 07:32:44am 12.8 years ago

Offline NEMESetup
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Seems to me that this will be the new "DDR EXTREME" of sorts. Perhaps this mix is being made to commemorate a 15 year anniversary.

Post #312 · Posted at 2012-10-28 07:38:18am 12.8 years ago

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Sadly, most companies care only about revenue, not the customers.

What brings in revenue? Customers.

From an arcade perspective, customers have nothing to do with their revenue. They get money for the sale of the machine, upgrade kit, etc. The quarters put in the machine don't go to Konami, they go to the arcade.

For home releases, its about sales yes. In this scenario they would have to be able to sell enough to make up for licensing costs. When you look at the cost of an arcade version versus a CS version, less sales for an arcade version brings in significantly more than less sales for a CS version. How much does an upgrade kit cost? I would assume they need to sell at least 5 versions to make up for what they get from one upgrade kit.
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Post #313 · Posted at 2012-10-28 07:40:53am 12.8 years ago

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Truthfully, it would be nice if they discarded the old "new mix every few years" system in favor of a single mix that can be updated, as long as there's easy US support (and we actually GET it stateside). I think a machine like this would be an easier sell stateside than a machine that needs an expensive annual upgrade to stay current.

Post #314 · Posted at 2012-10-28 10:28:43am 12.8 years ago

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I would be surprised if this was seriously being considered for release outside of Asia. Then again, I was surprised that X3 was not the end of the series.

Post #315 · Posted at 2012-10-28 10:34:45am 12.8 years ago

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Seems to me that this will be the new "DDR EXTREME" of sorts. Perhaps this mix is being made to commemorate a 15 year anniversary.

PREPARE DA' CAKE!!

Post #316 · Posted at 2012-10-28 10:35:16am 12.8 years ago

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Seems to me that this will be the new "DDR EXTREME" of sorts. Perhaps this mix is being made to commemorate a 15 year anniversary.
I hope not.
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Post #317 · Posted at 2012-10-28 10:43:58am 12.8 years ago

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Seems to me that this will be the new "DDR EXTREME" of sorts. Perhaps this mix is being made to commemorate a 15 year anniversary.

PREPARE DA' CAKE!!
Prepare for a big eyesore of text from Gabe about the history of DDR Extreme.

Post #318 · Posted at 2012-10-28 10:48:16am 12.8 years ago

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I wonder if they'll put long version songs in this one. If they do they might cost two songs.
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Post #319 · Posted at 2012-10-28 11:52:15am 12.8 years ago

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Putting long versions so they can execute long charts poorly (via copy paste) isn't worth it.

Post #320 · Posted at 2012-10-28 01:13:24pm 12.8 years ago

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I'm pretty sure in this interface,

No more EVOLVED songs
No more jun boss songs
No more crappy stepcharts
There will finally be a 20-footer song
No more VS blah blah blah mix
No more stupid crashes

And...IT WILL BE PINK!
Sorry, but i have to say that 20 footer = crappy stepchart.
It's impossible make a non crappy stepchart for 20 footer Big Grin

LOL

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Please, please, please... no more Dancemania revivals and just focus on new licenses.
Screw you and your thought process. We need MORE dancemania. Namely everything from 4th mix PLUS.

I'm sorry, but yes. We need more Dancemania Revivals. At least a few for each release. Tongue
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