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Post #281 · Posted at 2012-10-27 10:45:21am 12.8 years ago

Offline DMAxel
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U-san is NOT U1-ASAMi. U-san is one of DDR's directors.

Post #282 · Posted at 2012-10-27 10:45:30am 12.8 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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U-san is the director of the AC series, U1 is a composer. They are different people.

Post #283 · Posted at 2012-10-27 10:46:22am 12.8 years ago

Offline Max
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How did you know U-san is U1? They are different people. U-san is the guy who appeared with TAG in the APPEND TRAVEL video.
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Anyways, Not sure why everyone getting so frantic over this whole "last AC mix to be release but will be updated through constant e-amuse updates" thing. I think they have the power to release full games through the mix if given the time and all that jazz.

Or they may not, this could be the last DDR mix ever, EVERYONE PANIC.

Post #284 · Posted at 2012-10-27 10:47:02am 12.8 years ago

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Or they may not, this could be the last DDR mix ever, EVERYONE PANIC.

Technically yes, since subsequent updates are released thru eAMUSE.
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Post #285 · Posted at 2012-10-27 12:23:05pm 12.8 years ago

Offline Pandemonium X
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If this update thing is the case, then would that pretty much kill any chance of this coming to the US? There's no way e-amuse is coming to the US. The only way I could see it is online patch wi-fi/3G updates or something like that. Confused

Post #286 · Posted at 2012-10-27 12:41:21pm 12.8 years ago

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What happened with NAOKI?. Did he compose some of the previus songs in this AC?
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10 years OMG. 10 years in this forum. I can't believe this!!!

Post #287 · Posted at 2012-10-27 12:53:35pm 12.8 years ago

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What happened with NAOKI?. Did he compose some of the previus songs in this AC?

I believe he left Konami to pursue his musical career. Don't quote me on this though.

Post #288 · Posted at 2012-10-27 01:01:47pm 12.8 years ago

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2012/10/26: DDR 2013 is named that way because it's the last one, it's all e-amuse patches from now on ⇒ @soinlove

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Hey I totally baselessly speculated this in the chat a couple days ago.

Post #289 · Posted at 2012-10-27 01:08:20pm 12.8 years ago

Offline EarthPluto
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What happened with NAOKI?. Did he compose some of the previus songs in this AC?

I believe he left Konami to pursue his musical career. Don't quote me on this though.

I think NAOKI left KONAMI after the last KAC, the closing ceremony. He still counted as BEMANI Artist. Maybe he will turn to commissioned artist.

About DDR with patches. I know this will coming, because Internet is sooooooooooooooo exploitable, srsly.

Post #290 · Posted at 2012-10-27 01:48:17pm 12.8 years ago

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If this DDR game also shares the not booting without eamuse. Then even countries in Asia that don't have eamuse is also
dead/screwed.

Post #291 · Posted at 2012-10-27 03:08:38pm 12.8 years ago

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I think NAOKI just left DDR specifically, finding more success in Dance Evolution/Masters.

Well, that, and a franchise/playstyle we can't just simfile the crap out of. Blushing
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Post #292 · Posted at 2012-10-27 03:42:23pm 12.8 years ago

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The new DDR arcade version,Which have LC song?
Wizard of Dancer

Post #293 · Posted at 2012-10-27 03:49:30pm 12.8 years ago

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U-san confirmed to a player that NAOKI will have new music in the game.

Post #294 · Posted at 2012-10-27 04:10:08pm 12.8 years ago

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U-san confirmed to a player that NAOKI will have new music in the game.

I just hope it isn't like Ignition Break, it was kinda boring.
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Post #295 · Posted at 2012-10-27 04:56:54pm 12.8 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
So if this is going to be a single machine, that does not get replaced or upgraded but rather just software updates...

- This could become a massive Greatest Hits machine, or at least end up having a lot more music than any other arcade machine has.

- It seems like DDR is testing things for the rest of Bemani. All the current releases may have the capacity to install new music but they might not be setup to do this specifically. It will be interesting to see if this is what they have in mind for GITADORA as well.

- Wouldn't this make hacking the machine much easier? They way it's set up now is that if the encryption is ever broken they just change it with the new game release. New hardware, new software, the hackers have to start over. What happens if the encryption is cracked on machines intended to stay in place for a long time? It would take more than a simple software update to resecure things.

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Well, that, and a franchise/playstyle we can't just simfile the crap out of. Blushing

Give some of the more creative members of the community a Kinect and a Raspberry Pi and they'll cook something up.

Post #296 · Posted at 2012-10-27 05:13:15pm 12.8 years ago

Offline Daiz
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- Wouldn't this make hacking the machine much easier? They way it's set up now is that if the encryption is ever broken they just change it with the new game release. New hardware, new software, the hackers have to start over. What happens if the encryption is cracked on machines intended to stay in place for a long time? It would take more than a simple software update to resecure things.

Pretty much this. Since the capacity to update the game via online would exist, someone will figure out the encoding and encryption, spoof Konami's servers and bam, we have a DDR machine we can push any amount of songs to, forever. Before Konami said X3 wouldn't come to the states, they were looking at cheaper possibilities to use e-Amuse for arcades. Could they possibly be trying this new method to also benefit out-of-Asia arcades? Think about it: an arcade buys a new cabinet that's in excellent condition: they get cheap updates for the rest of their ownership of the machine through an internet connection. It's a steal for some places and would help Konami to cater the song lists to each region so that it goes with the culture's taste. I can see a new Gaga of Bieber song coming out and a few weeks later Konami licenses the track and sends an update to the machines. Add it to the attraction screen and bam, new business!

Post #297 · Posted at 2012-10-27 05:24:19pm 12.8 years ago

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Quote: AeronPeryton
All the current releases may have the capacity to install new music

All the version since SuperNOVA sans X did this.

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Wouldn't this make hacking the machine much easier?

It was really easy if you just want to rip the song and song data. Heck, the bg videos and the step data are there in plain sight.

The actual challenge is to re-encrypt data back in, but is it possible to do that? If it was possible, we should have seen this earlier.
Moreover in a single song there's a lot of stuff to be specified (like which stage, use bgvid or not, choreograph, video on stage etc).

KONAMI can even decide to do a huge update (like once in a year or less) that changes the security and/or encryption method.

So it might sound easy on paper, but definitely not on practice. (IIRC X never got cracked)
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Post #298 · Posted at 2012-10-28 12:09:29am 12.8 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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According to u-san, a new interface and new boss songs will be added about once every 6 months.

Post #299 · Posted at 2012-10-28 12:20:44am 12.8 years ago

Offline neodude237
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Sounds far better than what we get now.

Post #300 · Posted at 2012-10-28 12:40:05am 12.8 years ago

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With this being "the last mix", I think now Konami can take some time and get it right for a US and UK version. If they can get the online updates working somehow and have a cabinet that can last long then I'll take being behind on a few updates. At least that way we know what's coming and we can get excited for the next patch of songs.Tongue
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