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Post #2801 · Posted at 2012-02-13 06:03:30pm 13.4 years ago

Offline yindesu
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Well, mageman17 said "work on X3", not 2ndMIX. The first promo image Konami released didn't have the "vs 2ndMIX" on it at all, so it wouldn't surprise me if all the 2ndMIX code was done at the last minute (maybe they were waiting for the licensing to finish, who knows?), as in, completely after the end of X2's life.

I'm sure "surprise!" wasn't the only reason 2ndMIX wasn't at the first location test.

Post #2802 · Posted at 2012-02-13 08:51:26pm 13.4 years ago

Offline NeoRevenG
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Because the background animations in everything up to 5th mix were dynamically generated patterns (the dancing models were rendered in real-time) .

Still, that is no excuse for the characters to be tiny on X3 (unless they have fixed it with the latest eAmuse update) unless they forgot to expand the dimensions/scale for the larger res/screen. Surely there is enough processing power for that unless they used several million polygon's for Afro's hair or something.

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And SN was... not as special? Big Grin... I mean, it didn't have a new design or anything but it was the one that was more hyped up over here... it seemed.

Oh, SN1 was special, too as a kind of mini-revival though it never did reel in all the newcomers and casual gamers the first mixes did. It's just that X brought back a lot of casual gamers to the series.

Something interesting about X3 songs (HP4 , HP5 anf new songs for X3).

If you look the Stage for those songs, almost all of them played on Green Futuristic Stage.

X2 before for some songs has video BG on back and played on special Stage. (Someday..., Roppongi evolved ver.D, Vanessa, etc)


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Post #2803 · Posted at 2012-02-13 09:01:15pm 13.4 years ago

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This might just be me but I think some of the BG animations for some songs are missing. At least in 2nd Mix it kinda sparkles. In 2nd Mix Mode it doesn't and feels boring. With occasional pauses of just the generic BG.
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Post #2804 · Posted at 2012-02-13 10:22:51pm 13.4 years ago

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Based on seishinbyou's sig, difficulty name overlaps during gameplay. Sure the game allows you to play different difficulties per player, but you can't tell in the song wheel. Let's say two players choose maniac mode when one of them wants to play another mode this time. The song wheel will still show the maniac difficulty even if one of the players change to another. In the CS version of 2nd remix, the difficulty name doesn't show up if the players do not have the same difficulty.

Sorry if it sounds a little vague. Can't seem to explain this one properly.

Post #2805 · Posted at 2012-02-13 10:30:56pm 13.4 years ago

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Based on seishinbyou's sig, difficulty name overlaps during gameplay. Sure the game allows you to play different difficulties per player, but you can't tell in the song wheel. Let's say two players choose maniac mode when one of them wants to play another mode this time. The song wheel will still show the maniac difficulty even if one of the players change to another. In the CS version of 2nd remix, the difficulty name doesn't show up if the players do not have the same difficulty.

Sorry if it sounds a little vague. Can't seem to explain this one properly.
I remember that in the CS Version of 2nd ReMix, when 2 players have different difficulties, the difficulty will say "Party" during gameplay.
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Post #2806 · Posted at 2012-02-13 10:33:47pm 13.4 years ago

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Quote: DarkFeline
Based on seishinbyou's sig, difficulty name overlaps during gameplay. Sure the game allows you to play different difficulties per player, but you can't tell in the song wheel. Let's say two players choose maniac mode when one of them wants to play another mode this time. The song wheel will still show the maniac difficulty even if one of the players change to another. In the CS version of 2nd remix, the difficulty name doesn't show up if the players do not have the same difficulty.

Sorry if it sounds a little vague. Can't seem to explain this one properly.
I remember that in the CS Version of 2nd ReMix, when 2 players have different difficulties, the difficulty will say "Party" during gameplay.

Yup, you're right. Also, in the song wheel, it shows a picture of a foot, then x# beside it during different difficulties.

Post #2807 · Posted at 2012-02-14 02:45:00am 13.4 years ago

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Quote: DarkFeline
Based on seishinbyou's sig, difficulty name overlaps during gameplay.

This was fixed.
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Post #2808 · Posted at 2012-02-19 12:06:16am 13.3 years ago

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Post #2809 · Posted at 2012-02-19 01:15:10am 13.3 years ago

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Post #2810 · Posted at 2012-02-19 01:16:12am 13.3 years ago

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Post #2811 · Posted at 2012-02-19 01:47:05am 13.3 years ago

Offline Joe D
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can someone explain the whole DDR 2nd Mix mode to me? Confused

Post #2812 · Posted at 2012-02-19 02:08:36am 13.3 years ago

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From what I have seen and heard, it is basically a remastered version of 2nd Mix slapped on as a separate mode on X3. I havent seen any differences in the song list except for a few removed songs, and I don't even know if has any other function besides fanservice....but I may be wrong if future unlocks come up(hopefully involving 2nd Mix) Confused

who knows, maybe the daily event on the 20th as reported by Al2k4 will involve something from 2nd mix...

Post #2813 · Posted at 2012-02-19 03:07:30am 13.3 years ago

Offline Joe D
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ahh, yeah i already did some research, i dont understand why that 2nd Mix thing was even made xD

Post #2814 · Posted at 2012-02-19 03:15:26am 13.3 years ago

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ahh, yeah i already did some research, i dont understand why that 2nd Mix thing was even made xD
Nostalgia, fan service, testing the waters for future iterations of HD remasters of older DDR games, i mean the list of possibilities for why 2ndMIX mode is on X3 is a bit unknown but one can imagine you know?

Post #2815 · Posted at 2012-02-19 04:50:37am 13.3 years ago

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ahh, yeah i already did some research, i dont understand why that 2nd Mix thing was even made xD
Nostalgia, fan service, testing the waters for future iterations of HD remasters of older DDR games, i mean the list of possibilities for why 2ndMIX mode is on X3 is a bit unknown but one can imagine you know?

It probably sounded like a much better idea until they tried to actually implement it. It doesn't feel nostalgic, and yet it doesn't feel modern, it just came out looking like some sort of terrible Stepmania skin.

By the time they'd got to the point where they realised it wasn't going to be anything meaningful, they were probably months into development, and didn't have time to come up with anything else for the "vs 2nd Mix" gimmick.

Post #2816 · Posted at 2012-02-19 05:44:13am 13.3 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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We have far too little information at this point to speculate about their intentions to bring 2ndMIX into the game. Though it has been out for months, we are still extremely early in its life cycle (We've not yet completed the first IR and the first special event is happening next week.)

For all we know, 2ndMIX mode will be a very important part of X3's unlocking system. It's simply too early to tell.

Post #2817 · Posted at 2012-02-19 12:57:39pm 13.3 years ago

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Ridiculous prediction of the night: Konami unlocks songs in 2ndMIX Mode that were originally left out of 2ndMIX.

Post #2818 · Posted at 2012-02-19 01:08:03pm 13.3 years ago

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They should force people to play Valkyrie dimension in 2ndMIX MODE. Smile
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Post #2819 · Posted at 2012-02-19 02:07:02pm 13.3 years ago

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So, when does the event end?

Post #2820 · Posted at 2012-02-19 05:16:51pm 13.3 years ago

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