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Post #2481 · Posted at 2023-03-17 07:51:08am 2.1 years ago

Offline black4ever
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So I played DDR 1stMIX for the past 2 weeks for a video series. And I found 3 interesting things I discovered there.

1.) The 2-player system is a little funky. Yes, you can play Couples and Versus for an entire session, and it is possible to play Couples by having both players start the game at different times. Versus can also be playable if the second player presses "Start" at the "Ready" screen of a song, but that only lasts for 1 stage before it reverts to Couples the following stages.
Here's a video demonstration:


2.) I believe in miracles, one of the bonus tracks for 2ndReMIX, has the least stage-specific animations that can be played with a total of 6 animations out of 12. The song can only be played on the 1st and 2nd stage, no Final or Extra Stage. (that is 2 stages out of 4, multiplied by the 3 different character sets and animations)
Video as proof:


That's less than even the three PARANOiA songs and TRIP MACHINE, which are possible to play in the "1st stage" complete with its animations if you play Doubles on Hard Mode while only on 1 player or if you press Left on Easy Mode to load the Hard Mode songs there. Those songs aren't available to play on the 2nd stage, so those four songs can play 9 out of 12 animations in the game.

3.) Afro and Lady's 2nd stage animations are the only ones that aren't a perfect loop, because of one part: the "butterfly fill" section. In the first loop, the butterflies are yellow-brown, but in the next loop, they're blue.
First loop:
https://i.imgur.com/Xlg7lOi.png
Second loop:
https://i.imgur.com/BveSRH8.png
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Post #2482 · Posted at 2023-04-19 05:27:47pm 2 years ago

Offline Fibonacci42175
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Probably already been covered, but still one of my favorite factoids since it revolves around the ULTRAMIX/UNIVERSE series, my first CS DDR games.

Did you know that Senses by JT.1UP and its remix, the Kaiju Remix, have the exact same charts? Both songs are editied the same way, so you could layer them and they would line up and be in sync with one another. As such, the old charts were just duplicated over to the remix when UNIVERSE 3 was released.

Despite this, the two songs technically do NOT share the same MAX COMBOS. All the Xbox games sans UNIVERSE 3 have jumps count as 2 Combo instead of 1 like in current AC, and Kaiju Remix only appeared in UNIVERSE 3.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb1SOf8zSYc

Post #2483 · Posted at 2023-04-19 06:11:26pm 2 years ago

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I didn't know that about Senses' charts but I'm not even a little surprised the people who put Memories' charts on Rescue Me and just replaced Dynamite Rave's music like they did would do such a thing.
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Post #2484 · Posted at 2023-04-19 08:39:43pm 2 years ago

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they also did that with one of the ULTRAMIX DLC revival charts, i don't remember which one. they just plastered an entirely different chart onto its Challenge (or maybe a set of charts instead, if it's one of the Challenge-only remixes) and it doesn't work at all. nd i don't mean, like, how they accidentally put CANDY STAR's charts in with CANDY♥. this one was deliberately done. it had to have been.

Post #2485 · Posted at 2023-04-19 10:24:22pm 2 years ago

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You are thinking of Kind Lady (interlude) - charts directly copied from DROP THE BOMB remix
https://i.imgur.com/M2wquwR.png

Post #2486 · Posted at 2023-04-27 03:49:34pm 2 years ago

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A fun little trivia:

1, 2 Step's Beginner chart currently has the lowest note count in a Consumer Software version.

Mess With My Emotions's Beginner chart currently has the lowest note count in an Arcade Cabinet version.

Both songs debuted in the same game (DanceDanceRevolution HOTTEST PARTY).

I can't take credit for discovering this fact. I was watching yuisin's YouTube video (depicted below) and made the connection there.



Edit: Fixed error by switching "Arcade Cabinet" and "Consumer Software" to its correct and appropriate sentence, a mistake that I initially overlooked.

Post #2487 · Posted at 2023-05-24 05:01:01pm 1.9 years ago

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Found out that Euromix and Euromix 2 can be played in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland & The United Kingdom.
That's quite a lot of COUNTRIES in Europe and they have all taken part in the ESC (except Australia), but how can it still be played in the UK while we're out of the EU?
That Warning comes up during the attract mode & during boot mode, but in Japan, America, Asia & Australia this lasted up to the latest DDR games, but in Europe this warning isn't displayed in the later games. Why is this?

Post #2488 · Posted at 2023-05-24 06:42:27pm 1.9 years ago

Post #2489 · Posted at 2023-05-24 11:55:05pm 1.9 years ago

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how can it still be played in the UK while we're out of the EU?

You mean your local Euromix 2 machine didn't spontaneously combust after Brexit?

Post #2490 · Posted at 2023-11-26 02:47:54am 1.4 years ago

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Post #2491 · Posted at 2024-01-31 03:35:55pm 1.2 years ago

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Post #2492 · Posted at 2024-03-28 07:29:42pm 1.1 years ago

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one of the A20+ licenses, Roki, is sung by none other than Shinji Ikari's VA, Megumi Ogata! ofc, this version of Roki is a cover, but it's cool to see Shinji singing in a DDR license lol

Post #2493 · Posted at 2024-07-17 12:55:45pm 9.7 months ago

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In Dancing Stage EuroMIX, the licenses So Good, (Mucho Mambo) Sway, and Rushing are erroneously labelled as "Konami sounds" by the announcer when selected, due to reusing animations from Konami originals, with the latter two songs copying MAKE IT BETTER and PARANOiA, respectively. However, Word Up and Magic Alec Presents Resonance reuse gentle stress (AMD SEXUAL MIX), and GRADIUSIC CYBER (AMD G5 MIX)'s animations respectively, yet neither were labelled as "Konami originals"

Speaking of So Good, its animations were never used in prior Konami Original songs prior to Dancing Stage EuroMIX.

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Post #2494 · Posted at 2024-08-12 02:21:42am 8.9 months ago

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I know it's relatively common knowledge that the North American PS2 release of DDR MAX rips the background videos and sequencing from several songs on its arcade equivalent, but I found a lot of examples of this that aren't on RemyWiki. I'm not sure if everyone already knows this and I'm simply late to the party, but it appears as though almost all of the songs on DDR MAX CS NA that don't appear in DDR MAX 2 AC borrow their background videos and sequences from other songs. It's actually quite interesting to see these songs played simultaneously, especially when they have comparable tempos measure counts.

Post #2495 · Posted at 2025-05-01 04:33:58pm 4.5 days ago

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Some of y'all may know that DDR X2 marked the first time the main arcade series canon used jackets & thus alot of older songs (i.e. pre-2006 songs) had their background art used for the jackets. However, alot of them are recreations or upscales given how long it's been since these artwork were created. I did notice a couple jackets that were proper re-renders of their original backgrounds:
GRADUATION / BeForU
Gamelan de Couple / TOMOSUKE
CUTIE CHASER (and the remix) / CLUB SPICE (though the text is still different)

there's definitely a few more songs that do preserve the original artwork & were re-rendered though some of the jackets still change the fonts up

Funnily enough, D2R's jacket changes the font of the title text but the (Freeze Special) artwork uses the original text. Before anyone asks, the same font was used across both the original & (Freeze Special)'s graphics prior to X2

Post #2496 · Posted at 2025-05-01 05:14:42pm 4.5 days ago

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Seems the inverse is also true for some songs. un deux trois' and SILVER DREAM's jackets are very blurry compared to other songs

Also not sure if anyone has noticed it but due to the antialiasing you can sorta tell where the original part of PARANOiA Eternal's artwork is and what part was recreated in its jacket https://remywiki.com/images/4/4d/PARANOiA_ETERNAL.png

Post #2497 · Posted at 2025-05-05 09:08:15pm 8.9 hours ago

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Contrary to rumors, Paula Terry was not the announcer for the DDR Solo games & EXTRA MIX, but an (obviously uncredited) Filipina according to Aaron in Japan
no this trivia is not on RemyWiki, but AIJ shares some cool trivia on the LIFE4 discord
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