Let It Out

coffeelover, brutally honest, if you can't be patient about this stuff then you honestly shouldn't go into this venture.

Arcades are a dying breed in America, the business model to keep arcades running here is pretty much a system that is killing itself unless you offer other amenities inside the establishment.

Other arcades have been lucky because either the owner is filthy rich, they have good connections with community members that are able to easily get parts and equipment for said machines/the machines themselves, or they offer many different options outside of just being 'an arcade'. IF YOU think you're lonely in your city, imagine the other 35-40 states that don't even have any DDR past SuperNOVA2, let alone even EXTREME.

I know you want to push to get DDR 2014 in your city, but patience goes a LONG way, here in Florida we got 2 DDR 2014 kits divided between Orlando and a privately owned machine in Daytona, and that was last year. Before then the only DDR version that was the latest was X2, for about 3 years.

As Ashura said, eventually you guys will get your chance at playing a machine, and if you are truly impatient to the point you need to at least play on a machine, TRAVEL! And I mean travel as in to another state for an event/convention where Tokyo Attack will be, in fact I am definitely sure they will be doing some conventions in Texas later on in the year. They always bring DDR, IIDX, jubeat, and now SDVX with them so that may be your chance. Like what I did when I went to MAGFest last year, first time going by myself to another state JUST to play on machines that are not found in my home state.

I think I've said all that I needed to say on the subject, if you're still adamant on trying as hard and as fast as you can to get one, I can't really stop you, just know that you and probably a few hundred other people are looking for the same thing, you just have to be patient. That's all there is to it.

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I'm just mad, because I don't want to be stuck on stepmania forever, and probably by the time a DDR 2014 Kit magically arrives in Houston, I don't even know if i will care. I will admit, I do struggle with patience, but i'm gonna try, also, I heard Tokyo Attack is heading to Anime Matsuri Convention, which happens in Houston, but I need place to where I can go in my area, not just once every year, because I heard data on a E-Amusement pass can expire after a certain amount of time, again, I only heard that. Also, traveling costs a lot of time and money, so I don't get a chance to go often, and I really wanna get back into DDR. Also, weren't you the one who said I needed to talk to the head of Tokyo Attack on facebook? Anyways, I see your point, try to be patient, and things will hopefully work out.

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1. Round 1, although having arcade machines you wouldn't really even see as often as IIDX or p'n'm (i.e. Taiko no Tatsujin, jubeat, GITADORA, etc.), isn't necessarily well-known for being as up-to-date as independent arcades. I'm not sure why, but that's just how it is.

2. It's been a very well-known fact that support for arcades in anywhere else outside of Asia is dying, since it's not as easy to attract the general public towards arcades as it was 15-30 years ago. The majority of the Japanese population, for example, lives in tightly-packed cities, where if there was an arcade in that city, it mostly would not be hard to get to (that's why a lot of the card systems, like e-amusement, are much more common). In the US, on the other hand, even though there are large chunks of the population living in cities, they don't make up as much of the population compared to Japan. Besides, consoles are more accessible and once you have one, you don't need to go anywhere to use it, making arcade machines less desireable. As much as I (and probably everyone on this forum site) don't want it to be this way, it's just how it is, and there isn't much we can do about it.

DDR 2014 at Round1 is still a possibility...but seriously. Calm down.

blehe38, Nanuet is actually getting a white DDR 2014 cabinet, along with two SDVX III cabs. They are not updating the DDR machine that they have in their store to 2014, granted they even have a DDR machine there currently. They will pretty much be the first arcade in North America to not only get a white DDR cabinet, but also will currently be the only public location to play SDVX.

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1 They haven't gotten the cab in yet, it will arrive hopefully soon, it's just not in yet.
2 I don't anything to say for that
3 Sadly, I have to admit, that is true, but certain games are exclusive to the arcades

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1. I changed my previous post to reflect this. I was aware they were getting DDR 2014, but not a white dedicab.
3. And sadly, those games aren't popular enough with the general public to merit any sort of revival of arcades.

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1 I saw that
3 It seems to me It's all that redemption crap, and that casual stuff that killed those other games that we need.

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well, look at it this way:

nanuet's buying it illegally. not that konami is actually come to america and demand their cab back; but importing it w/o getting licenses checked etc

R1/round1 is a company that makes absolute sure that all songs are licensed so it can be used; they don't want any chance of legal trouble. round 1 probably has some in storage, it's just licensing songs take forever

it's not really "pathetic", it's more like round 1 wanting to make sure everything is checked legally

Ok, i see where you are coming from, but here's my argument, if that's the case, then how come their are a boat load of Extreme cabinets floating around, and the one's in Houston, from what I've seen aren't bootlegs.

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I wouldn't say redemption and casual games necessarily killed the better games. It's just that since the better games lost popularity, and redemption/casual games gained popularity, arcades adjusted accordingly. The better games probably would have been removed for one reason or another anyway (most likely due to functionality issues because of the lack of maintenance on the machines *looks into camera*).

"a fair boat load" should be renamed to everything. every single extreme cabinet in the US is a bootleg. (except for the very, VERY few legitimate extremes which really makes zero difference from bootleg ones) matters fact every single mix dating from extreme and below is most likely a bootleg in america. (but who cares about that stuff anyway)

How do i tell a bootleg from an original?


If the functionally was a problem, wouldn't they just need to be taken care of, and as for the casual thing, I'd say that started when Raw Thrills The Fast And The Furious Came out in the Summer of 2004. Coincidentally The First Maximum Tune came out around the same time.

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you don't. there is literally zero difference. it is the exact same game

Them how is it a bootleg?

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A majority of EXTREME cabs are bootlegs, in fact EXTREME was never supposed to be released in America. All the 'official DDR EXTREME' machines are just Korean bootlegs. The only official US DDR arcade versions were:

Dance Dance Revolution
Dance Dance Revolution USA
DDR SuperNOVA
DDR SuperNOVA2
DDR X
and DDR X2

Note: The only TRUE EXTREME bootlegs are DDR MEGAMIX and DDR EXTREME PLUS. Even then the only bootleg part about them is the start menu, buggy music select screen, and from what I heard the noteskin can be changed/is different. Outside of that those versions are pretty identical to an actual EXTREME arcade game.

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I knew that.

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That's the problem though: arcades don't want to take care of machines; they just want to buy them, slap 'em down on the floor, and wait for the money to start rolling in.

...which was around (if not soon after) the time the DDR craze began dying down. Therefore, they needed machines to replace them, hence the whole redemption/casual games overflow.

They shouldn't expect that.

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But the thing is that the majority of arcades are more focused on money than anything else. If it doesn't work, then it just goes (because HOLY SHIT OPENING THE PANELS OF A DDR MACHINE AND VACUUMING OUT DIRT AND DUST IS WAY TOO HARD).