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Post #2281 · Posted at 2011-10-06 06:13:56am 14.3 years ago

Offline SSGotenksUFO
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HP4 wasn't ported to PS3. DanceDanceRevolution came out on PS3 and Wii at the same time. They were developed side-by-side.
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Post #2282 · Posted at 2011-10-06 06:19:30am 14.3 years ago

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HP4 wasn't ported to PS3. DanceDanceRevolution came out on PS3 and Wii at the same time. They were developed side-by-side.

The assets were developed by Konami for HP4, and then handed off to the PS3 development house. Being released on the same day doesn't mean they were developed side by side, most of the songs are finished almost a year in advance, and the games sit on the shelf for a long time, waiting for the holiday season release window.

Post #2283 · Posted at 2011-10-06 06:20:56am 14.3 years ago

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the games sit on the shelf for a long time, waiting for the holiday season release window.
I remember last year when they delayed it by at least a month until November because it was convenient for them Oops

Post #2284 · Posted at 2011-10-06 06:58:12am 14.3 years ago

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The assets were developed by Konami for HP4, and then handed off to the PS3 development house. Being released on the same day doesn't mean they were developed side by side, most of the songs are finished almost a year in advance, and the games sit on the shelf for a long time, waiting for the holiday season release window.

What "assets" are you talking about? And how do you know this information you're passing off as truth?
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Post #2285 · Posted at 2011-10-06 07:00:12am 14.3 years ago

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Yeah I'd like to know too.

Post #2286 · Posted at 2011-10-06 07:06:27am 14.3 years ago

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As would I, but that definitely isn't surprising especially the
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most of the songs are finished almost a year in advance, and the games sit on the shelf for a long time, waiting for the holiday season release window.
part

Post #2287 · Posted at 2011-10-06 07:26:59am 14.3 years ago

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What "assets" are you talking about? And how do you know this information you're passing off as truth?

The audio mixdowns, step data, sometimes artwork, and documents that explain "under the hood" gameplay mechanics, or specific coding tricks that need to be replicated, like the methods that the game uses to determine whether a player receives a perfect/great/good/miss - Anything which the port absolutely needs to incorporate, rather than try to replicate.

Konami always have a senior staff member oversee external developments, so the game is developed from the ground up, and then "ok'd" along the way, to stop it steering off in the wrong direction. They obviously did a lot of things which seemed weird, like their interperitation of how judgements pop up ontop of the arrow being pressed, instead of the center of the screen. That probably wouldn't have been an intended change of design, but must have got "ok'd" by Naoki when he checked one of the builds. I guess it looked cool to him, or wasn't considered drastic enough to go back and change?

Post #2288 · Posted at 2011-10-06 07:47:38am 14.3 years ago

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And how do you know this information you're passing off as truth?

I'm not sure what an audio mixdown is. If you're referring to the actual song that makes it into the game, obviously that's made independently and not made for one specific system over another.

While I can't claim to know for sure, step data is probably generated independently as well, meaning it's coded into the games after it's been generated and tested using some method they've been using since DDR was invented.

"Under the hood" gameplay mechanics are slightly different between the Wii and PS3 version if I recall correctly. Most things are the same, but some are different.

What I'm saying is that you're not giving any real proof that the Wii version was developed first and the PS3 version second. How do you know that?
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Post #2289 · Posted at 2011-10-06 08:47:30am 14.3 years ago

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Everything is made independantly. Taronuke gave me a really good explanation of how the steps are developed, but I'll leave him to explain it much better than I can.

The audio mixdown is just uncompressed audio. It's made on a multi-track, and then mixed down into one single track, then sent to the coders to be converted into a prioriotary format, and put into the game.

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"Under the hood" gameplay mechanics are slightly different between the Wii and PS3 version if I recall correctly. Most things are the same, but some are different.

They're different because (with the exception of the Arcade - Playstation ports) the games all have to be built from the ground up. There are obviously very specific formulas that have to be consistant throughout every DDR game, but the way in which the game engine executes them is different, which is why you get these very small differences, which are noticable to you and me, but not noticable to a programmer or QA tester with no real experience of playing high level DDR, but has been hired to develop a new engine for it.

Post #2290 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:42:45am 14.3 years ago

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X-Scale and CHALLENGE difficulty confirmed for DDR II



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Post #2291 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:42:48am 14.3 years ago

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Awyeeeah! Even the menu looks like an X2/X3 hybrid!

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GOSH DANGIT, beaten by 3 seconds. lol

Post #2292 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:43:25am 14.3 years ago

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This is totally amazing and it makes me want to get the game even more. Of course, we knew it would happen, but still...

https://www.facebook.com/#!/dancedancerevolution

happy me is happy

Post #2293 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:44:42am 14.3 years ago

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X-Scale and CHALLENGE difficulty confirmed for DDR II



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Post #2294 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:46:50am 14.3 years ago

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Well, certainly has this game pretty much nailed, only 6 more days Tongue

Post #2295 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:47:08am 14.3 years ago

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FUCK YEAH!!

I think we all saw this coming though.

Post #2296 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:49:10am 14.3 years ago

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Well, certainly has this game pretty much nailed, only 6 more days Tongue
and then 2 more days for it to ship for those who pre-ordered it.

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Post #2297 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:49:28am 14.3 years ago

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This is going to be the best Wii DDR ever.

By the numbers, what's left on the wishlist for this game?

Post #2298 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:49:54am 14.3 years ago

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Well, certainly has this game pretty much nailed, only 6 more days Tongue
and then 2 more days for it to ship for those who pre-ordered it.
This better not happen with my order or i will throw a fit >8E

Excited this is now confirmed even though most of us had a good feeling both Challenge and the X-scale was going to appear in the game. Also LOVING that music selection screen in the background, VERY X3-ish 8D

Post #2299 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:50:03am 14.3 years ago

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I believe you can see the banner for The Heavens Above on there

That's a sexy cover.

Post #2300 · Posted at 2011-10-06 09:50:08am 14.3 years ago

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