Should DDR change its foot rating system?

Many people have complained about Supernova 2's songs being misrated, on this and other boards. Do you think DDR should change it's foot rating system?

I think DDR should increase the rating scale to 11 or 12, and rerate songs like PSMO and HDVO to be 11 or 12. Songs like Paranoia Hades expert could be rated 10.

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I don't know why they haven't yet. IIDX went to 12. It started going to 6, then to 8, then to 12. DDR started at 6, then 8, then 9, then 10. Now there's too many 10-like 9s, so there should be an 11/12 rating. And losing the flashing 10 rating for SN2 was a step in the wrong direction.

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I think DDR needs to change the maximum foot level to 12 too.

There's just too many incorrectly rated 9-10s now.

Quote: al2k4
I think DDR needs to change the maximum foot level to 12 too. There's just too many incorrectly rated 9-10s now.

Agree. You know there’s a problem when someone can nearly;D pass MAXX Unlimited (10 footer) and not last 4% on PARANOiA ~Hades~ (9 footer).

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They Should get all the way to 12 or rerate all songs. Imagine Max 300 would be a 8

I'm sorry? MAX 300 AN EIGHT? No, that would mean the 12s wouldn't be doable. We're talking about adding on extra difficulties, not changing ones that are alright as they are.

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I think NS posted this on the GameFAQ's board but its a good idea.

Split up the 10 footer ratings from 10.0-10.9

Seeing as how there is a discrepancy in the rating of 10 footers nowadays, this would probably be good.

FELM Challenge, PH Challenge, Fascination MaxX Expert and Challenge would be 10.9 (Yes, the expert chart belongs here )

Xepher Challenge, Grandolin Oni, Outer Limits Expert would be 10.0

That kind of stuff.

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more accurately, what i said was to use the GF/DM system of 1-100 where when you see something like 89, its actually 8.9(its also the mungyodance formula, for SM players).

this way it applies to everything, not just 10s and rough 9s like grandolin oni.

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Re-rating everything to a 1-100 scale would be pretty ridiculous though. Changing it to a 1-12 scale would be good enough, plus it would only involve rerating the higher-level songs.
Oh yeah, and MGD's scale is actually from 10 to 160.

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^i know that, but its the same concept is what i meant. a 115 in mungyodance is an 11.5.

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I would like to see them go to a GF/DM numbering system, but I highly doubt that it will ever happen from Konami. Obviously, GF/DM isn't exactly a large influence on DDR.

But IIDX is...

As a result, if they do anything, it will probably be to introduce some 11s and 12s, and readjust the top end of the scale accordingly.

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well... i think it is possible to get a GFDM rating system for DDR... seeing that GFDM got DDR's Groove Radar...

but that's pretty tough work to re-rate every song.....

11s and 12s are nicer and simpler to look... I'll be confused when seeing a big number like 89 in DDR....

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I think they could... Bag isn't that hard and it is a 10, Sakura is the same... yea... MAX 300 should be a 9... PARANOiA Survivor MAX should still be a 10 and maybe an 11 on Challenge...

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first off, max300 isnt a 9. no way in hell. maybe on doubles, and even then there is that run at the end that isnt on singles(there is a spurt there on singles, while on doubles its a whole run that goes into that little spurt). that part kinda makes up for the beginning having a lot of 4th note walking.

anyway, i think the person who said the 1-12 system being most logical of happening is right. IIDX influences DDR a lot, its where a majority of the crossovers come from, and DDRs boss songs seem to be showing up in IIDX a lot(max300, PSM, FAXX, paranoia hades, TMP). with DDR it wont take as much re-rating as IIDX needed though. look at V another over the years, and its rating. it debuted in a 1-5 scale game, and now its a 12. even when it got the bump to 12, it went up from 8.

i mean, all that REALLY needs to be done is make it clear where each 10 stands. it COULD be done with one simple change of re-instating flashers into DDR, but there is still the case that bag would be rated the same as max300. sakura we dont have to worry about, konami officially re-rated it to 9(or so everyone whos seen a SN2 cab says, i doubt they would lie about it), but there HAS to be some line between the stupid 10s and the good ones. i would like to see DDR keep the 1-10 scale its had for so long and put flashers in, but it just wont cut it, there are too many levels of difficulty in the game.

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Lol, if Max 300 is a 9, Drivin' is a 8, flowers is a 7 Golden sky a 4 etc xD

Max 300 is a 10, yes. But Paranoia Hades Oni, Healing D Vision Oni and some other, no.
There is a lot of real 10 feet, but some are more like a 11 or maybe a 12.

I'm not sure but someone told me that Xepher Oni is a 9 on SuperNOVA 2, is that true ? O_o

Oh and btw did they change the rating of The Legend of Max in Standard (it's a 9 on SuperNOVA 1, but i think it's a 8.5, so a 8 for SUperNOVA2) ?

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Is PARANOiA HADES on the Home version of SuperNOVA 2? and can someone give me a link to the official file of these 2 songs:

Facsination MaxX
Facsination ~Eternal Love Mix~

if possible, give me a site where they are in .zip form. My computer won't let me work with .rar or anything else...

Thanks!

But then again, MAX 300 is a bit harder than MaxX Unlimited... The Legend of MAX is a 10 for me...

Why do they change the level ratings for all of these songs? why can't they just keep it the same. But like i said, some songs shouldn't be 10 because they aren't that hard and should be a lower rating... Some players might think an easy song is really hard... Why don't they try to go up to 15 feet like SM does? >_<

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all those files are on this site under the game they debuted in, and in zip format, so go get them.

also, there is no way you can convince me that 300 is harder than unlimited.

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thanks and watever...

do u think MaxX Unlimited is harder that 300?

I like MAX. (period)

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Unlimited has less streams than MAX 300, but they are more awkward and confusing with the freeze arrows.
And Stepmania can go up to how ever many feet you want, you just need to change the metrics file in the theme folder to display the amount you want it to.

And changing the foot rating isn't entirely necessary, since anyone who is bothered to attempt any of the songs that are considered harder should pretty much know what to expect. This means it will only be a small factor for the experianced players, but the inexperianced ones won't take much notice.
If that makes sense?

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Quote: Emo-Gaara_14
thanks and watever... do u think MaxX Unlimited is harder that 300? I like MAX. (period)

yes, unlimited is harder than 300 for several reasons. first of all, it has several tempo changes. max300 is 300-stop-300. unlimited is 300-260-300-180-300-150-stop-320. second, 300 is all stream, unlimited is steps into jumps, crossovers, and stream. unlimited can be BSed easier than 300, but when looking at the patterns and trying to actually do them unlimited is the harder song(like if youre trying to pass it in oni mode).

as for max.(period), the oni steps are fun, the heavy steps are just terrible. i'm not a big fan of the song itself either.

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