NEED TECHNICAL INFORMATION ON SYSTEM 573 DIGITAL AND WHERE TO BUY

Hello to everyone,
heres my problem
I'm a ddr fan from the 1st mix and nowdays the idea is going to buy a real DDR machine,
or at least a system 573 digital and the REAL metal arcade pad fo enjoy the feeling of the arcade,
minimum version I'm searching of cabinet is from 3rd mix to up so that it has the konami digital sound board because I like to play the original DDR and I really don't like stepmania or other things, also if their are good or probably also better and FREE.
then another trouble after a lot of research on the web come out.... I really didn't understand if I install a DDR extreme then I'm able to downgrade to the 3rd mix again, version are to much and don't want to stuck on ddr extreme because is the latest and lost all the beautiful older version.
anyway can you tell me also where to buy or download the disc from the 3rd mix to ddr extreme please ? as far as I know this discs are really difficoult to find nowdays and for download don't answer sows because I don't have access there so is really useless like advice unless someone is really good to give to me a invite.

Greetings

Siggy.

I own a full Extreme cabinet, and I've modded it to run OpenITG/Stepmania (Virtually the same thing). You maintain all aspects of the arcade machine when you carry out a mod, including the sound system. My machine plays it using the original arcade pads, original CRT display at its native resolution, and original speaker system and subwoofers. Every detail is there, so there's really no reason not to run SM or oITG on a machine if you're able to. The days of juggling mixes and tracking down CD's is past, as you can simply load every song, course, and modifier you want into one convenient environment and play it in a theme of your choosing (There are even themes that replicate Extreme, 3rd Mix etc.) so you get that classic feel, all the extras of the PC software, and the hybrid of your contemporary stepcharts being played on your machine, while maintaining the original feel of the mix you prefer.

If you still want to get a 573 Digital and original CD containing the desired mix, your best bet is eBay. There's always DDR machines and parts being sold on it, and (sometimes) for good deals. The 573 system is extremely rare to find by itself, and you're better off getting an entire machine, as you wouldn't have a proper place to put it, plus you'd still need a speaker amplifier, compatible sound system, and so on just to get the thing to run.

In the end, if you want a machine, you should buy any desired mix (so long as the machine and pads are in proper shape) and do a quick and safe J-PAC mod to turn it into a PC-based machine and upload all your desired songs and features to the game. That's the most practical advice I can offer.

Hello Zeth,
Thanks for your reply
welll what I have to say ???
I have a stepmania and perfectly configured with many themes like extreme, supernova ,supernova 2 etc etc... and with all ddr songs but unfortunately I really don't like it... it doesn't the same things or at least for me I started with the 1st DDR to EXTREME day by day and it was a experience that I really whish all here and for my conclusion stepmania is FAR also if is the same or better, it doesn't have the same perfect look and feel in my humble opinion, by my side I prefer play with PS1 version of the games.
reagarding ebay... well I already know about i was thinking that maybe here there was some people who can give me advise
regarding some shop online but from your word I understand what I already imagine (unfortunately system 573 digital board is RARE) I'll try for go for a cabinet.
anyway did someone know if I put ddr extreme I can go back to 3rd mix ?
and after a search on internet I read about of a MIX CHIP that boot all the game without security card is thuis true ?
where I can buy this MIX CHIP ?
please help.

There are dozens (hundreds?) of great themes for stepmania and openITG, so if you're focused on getting a solid PS1-type experience, here's an idea of what themes can do for you.

There aren't many themes for games earlier than Extreme or 5th mix though. This is one of the oldest recreations you can get. If you're absolutely, positively, undoubtedly hell-bent on getting a PS1 style theme, this is your best bet, otherwise you won't be playing on a stepmania or openITG cabinet.

The Mix Chip you're talking about isn't really a thing. When you talk about going from Extreme to 3rd mix, what you physically do to initiate that change is you open the back panel of the cabinet, and remove the current game CD (Be it Extreme or 3rd mix, or any mix for that matter) from the proprietary CD bay, and you swap it with the appropriate mix you want to play. Like I said earlier, juggling mixes is obsolete, expensive, and time consuming. It really is best to simply buy a cabinet and take an hour or two to convert it to SM/oITG. I'll happily answer other questions regarding machines, but I've made my case on what I think you should do in terms of approaching the purchase of a cabinet.

Thanks Zeth for reply
I'm agree with you about the stepmania and the theme you link to me I have it already.
I'm agree also on the fact to swap mix can be obsolete But I like 3rd mix plus graphic and also the 4th mix plus graphic and then is original something that for me is a value added and then for me stepmania is still far all the video under the music for example still are missed the theme of 3rd mix NOT ABSOLUTELY EXIST ETC ETC.....
here on this forum I feel like a fish outside water people here are Almost ALL bemaniso member and play with original arcade games cracked and to people that want afford also with the ORIGINAL SOFTWARE (because not have access there on bemaniso like me) and ask someone about DDR the answer for him is always play stepmania or ITG... WELL I want like to play the ORIGINAL OR CRACKED KONAMI SOFTWARE on my cabinet and I'm really bored about hear that stepmania is better when the people on bemaniso community play with the cracked version of software on REAL cabinet.. of corse here we are on a SIMULATION Games site so STEPMANIA and othe simulation games are here obviously the KING but I know perfectly that the ORIGINAL KONAMI SOFTWARE IS THE BEST and CRACKED TODAY like many people here play it is ALSO BETTER.
I'll switch on stepmania ONLY if I really can't afford cabinet plus money for the games because I'm not fortunate to have a BEMANISO Account.
please Zeth try to understand that there is NOTHING it WITH YOU is JUST an OUTLET.
About Cabinet can you confirm that I can downgrade when I want ? switch from ddr extreme to ddr 3rd mix with the original software ?
Thanks for Your help.

Okay so I would firstly suggest getting a machine then concern yourself with changing mixes and such.

With that said... Two things.
-Legit DDR kits marry to a digital I/O so they can not be used on any board besides the one it was first installed to. Bootleg kits may not always act the same (and therefor can be made to run on any 573 whether it was new or used in some cases).
-There are versions of the games with security removed out there... But don't bother sniffing around for them until you have the need to.

PS: Piracy is not condoned on ZIV. Please do not bring sows or piracy into the threads.

Also to Zeth: Stepmania will never be properly configured to emulate the real versions of DDR games. They are so vastly different you can not even begin to compare them. Take it from someone who knows that hardware and how it runs the games inside and out. ;)
Oh and one more thing; your last post gave me cancer.

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THANK GOD FOR KON
I'm really glad that you come and fortunately explain what I want to say from posts ago.
OK!!!!! SORRY and I understand (I know that I could get BANNED) cause talking by piracy ,but I was really tired to hear what is NOT TRUE ,Stepmania better than DDR (For me SIMPLY NOT!!!!! AND NEVER WILL BE!!!!!) simply because, KONAMI create it KONAMI is a professional staff that create games that everyone know in the market and of corse a simple bunch of people that work open source cannot reach the same level,then after DDR role a important part of my life and for sure I cannot accept to hear STEPAMANIA IS BETTER!!!! for me is pure CRAP also if (rightly for someone) is BETTER.
anyway thanks for technical information about konami system 573 DIGITAL BOARD ,but what a bad news for my ears... the married on digital board means that I cannot buy used games right ?
and where I can buy the new VIRGIN system 573 software those days ?????? we are talking around 12/13 years ago right now ....
I'll follow anyway your advice and I'll start sniffing software after purchase the cabinet hoping that I can afford it.
Really Thank You !!!!

I know full well that SM won't replace an original mix. I was defending the fact that he may consider a different play environment, as there are many benefits not available on a traditional cab. I get you don't care for my view, but in the end, you want a quality experience and while different, SM and oITG offer excellent experiences. I appreciate the "cancer" comment, but it was me stating my opinion when trying to counsel somebody on how to go about configuring a machine setup.

@Siggy12 - Your machine will likely come with a 573 so don't look for one unless for some reason it doesn't. If it doesn't just look on ebay or in the community. I have one sitting behind me right now as a spare so they still float around sometimes.

@Zeth - I said your post gave me cancer because it was poorly written FYI. And for a machine running stepmania or oITG... It really doesn't offer that great of a playing experience. There are several reasons why (light interfaces, I/O delays, etc.) some can be fixed but some can't. And to me making a stepmania machine is kind of a waste of a cabinet. Why have a false experience of a game when you can and have the real deal. It doesn't make sense to me but to each their own.

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@Kon I'm perfectly agree That's is what I want say...waste a DDR cainet for a stepmania is better I get a heart attack for me !!!!! Stepmania is a poor alternative not the original IMHO (nothing to do I'm sorry but I prefer like many many peoples swap mix ) OF CORSE I'lll never buy a cabinet without game READY with System 573 DIGITAL BOARD inside I was looking for these days and is tremendly RARE!!!! and yes some machine floating around sometime with patience I know that the good price arive ;) anyway I'm planning to do a trip near by because there is some machine operator that probably have somthing about and I 'll ask the price and avalaibility for it.

Although I fully agree with you Kon, I would like to point out that I prefer having the option to play openITG/Stepmania if only for custom mixes. However, when we are to speak strictly about the DDR arcade mixes (and to some extent, the CS ones too), I am fully behind Kon on that.

I would suggest (based on spaces/wants/needs/etc) having the option to use stepmania. I am sure that this can be done without scrapping the 573 board because making your own song/playing others is always fantastic. However, if you're goal is completely geared on classic DDR mixes, I would simply stick with the board and available arcade discs.

One fun thing to note: Dr. D has pointed out that certain songs have different..."timing windows" between mixes. Even Aaron has commented that the audio feels off for some Max/Max2 releases on Extreme, but the visual is perfect (or vice versa, or both are wrong)! The point is, playing something on its release mix versus one you're accustomed to can be a really trying but fun experience. (Rhythm and Polix KOG really bothered me on 4th mix where as on Extreme it felt more "accurate.")

In either case, have fun with your machine. I know you'll have a phenomenal time with it!

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this will be my choice If I'll deal it!!!! not interesting on other songs play my custom song I'm interesting in a PURE DDR 1 to EXTREME ARCADE EXPERIENCE!!!!

The pure experience is great and worth it. Have fun.

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