Post #1 · Posted at 2013-07-10 01:54:50am 12 years ago
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My local arcade has been getting Supernova 2 errors. They monitor just shuts down(so does the machine) they are trying their best to fix it but i want to help.. Does anybody know the issue? They think its the python overheating.. When you try to reboot it the monitor just says "No Signal"
Post #2 · Posted at 2013-07-10 06:34:00am 12 years ago
It could be many things. Checking to see if the Python is getting proper air circulation would be a good place to start as they get clogged with dust pretty easily. I honestly think its a power supply issue however. Its very hard to troubleshoot something like this without being on hand or knowing more details.
Post #3 · Posted at 2013-07-10 10:12:33am 12 years ago
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Quote: Kon
It could be many things. Checking to see if the Python is getting proper air circulation would be a good place to start as they get clogged with dust pretty easily. I honestly think its a power supply issue however. Its very hard to troubleshoot something like this without being on hand or knowing more details.
If you leave it alone all day it wont shut off but if you have somebody constantly playing it. In about 3 hours it will over heat. the back is completely open. Just the sound glitches monitor shuts off and inputs a "NO SIGNAL" on the monitor. The marquee is still on though.
Post #4 · Posted at 2013-07-10 10:31:43am 12 years ago
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Can you tell if you are still able to get anywhere/play the game after the monitor shuts down? This will help determine if it is a monitor, input or PCB issue.
Post #5 · Posted at 2013-07-10 03:58:07pm 12 years ago
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Can you tell if you are still able to get anywhere/play the game after the monitor shuts down? This will help determine if it is a monitor, input or PCB issue.
Nope you cant do anything. It just completely shuts off(The Machine)
Pretty much it just.. Shuts off during excessive play.. they "THINK" it is an overheating problem with the Python. I highly doubt it but i could be wrong.
After it crashes and if you try to reboot it you get a No Signal message on the monitor, Sometimes it will TRY to boot up but then spits the "No Signal" message at the last second.
Post #6 · Posted at 2013-07-10 04:06:25pm 12 years ago
If it's a matter of overheating, then maybe you could place a fan next to the back of the machine, and put it on full blast whenever the machine's on?
An old (now closed down) location I used to go to previously had an ITG2 dedicab, hacked with so many custom simfiles on it that it would overheat whenever someone was playing, so they eventually started having a fan blowing cool air towards it at all times, and it fixed the problem.
Now, I'm not 100% confident that this case is similar enough to be solvable with the same solution as the one I just explained, but I personally think it would be worth a shot.
An old (now closed down) location I used to go to previously had an ITG2 dedicab, hacked with so many custom simfiles on it that it would overheat whenever someone was playing, so they eventually started having a fan blowing cool air towards it at all times, and it fixed the problem.
Now, I'm not 100% confident that this case is similar enough to be solvable with the same solution as the one I just explained, but I personally think it would be worth a shot.
Post #7 · Posted at 2013-07-10 04:26:20pm 12 years ago
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If it's a matter of overheating, then maybe you could place a fan next to the back of the machine, and put it on full blast whenever the machine's on?
An old (now closed down) location I used to go to previously had an ITG2 dedicab, hacked with so many custom simfiles on it that it would overheat whenever someone was playing, so they eventually started having a fan blowing cool air towards it at all times, and it fixed the problem.
Now, I'm not 100% confident that this case is similar enough to be solvable with the same solution as the one I just explained, but I personally think it would be worth a shot.
An old (now closed down) location I used to go to previously had an ITG2 dedicab, hacked with so many custom simfiles on it that it would overheat whenever someone was playing, so they eventually started having a fan blowing cool air towards it at all times, and it fixed the problem.
Now, I'm not 100% confident that this case is similar enough to be solvable with the same solution as the one I just explained, but I personally think it would be worth a shot.
I Could tell them that.. Ill talk to them about that.
Post #8 · Posted at 2013-07-10 04:28:36pm 12 years ago
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Quote: NuVirus
If it's a matter of overheating, then maybe you could place a fan next to the back of the machine, and put it on full blast whenever the machine's on?
An old (now closed down) location I used to go to previously had an ITG2 dedicab, hacked with so many custom simfiles on it that it would overheat whenever someone was playing, so they eventually started having a fan blowing cool air towards it at all times, and it fixed the problem.
Now, I'm not 100% confident that this case is similar enough to be solvable with the same solution as the one I just explained, but I personally think it would be worth a shot.
An old (now closed down) location I used to go to previously had an ITG2 dedicab, hacked with so many custom simfiles on it that it would overheat whenever someone was playing, so they eventually started having a fan blowing cool air towards it at all times, and it fixed the problem.
Now, I'm not 100% confident that this case is similar enough to be solvable with the same solution as the one I just explained, but I personally think it would be worth a shot.
I Could tell them that.. Ill talk to them about that.
OK. Just let me know what happens...
Post #9 · Posted at 2013-07-10 04:37:34pm 12 years ago
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A fan isn't going to make a difference on a python 2 board. It literally is a PS2 in the box and nothing besides the PS2 gets that hot. If anything its just not getting proper circulation so open the python 2 casing and clean it out. I am sure its clogged with dust. If that's not it then its likely your power supply acting up. Also I just want to make sure of this but you guys are sure that the killswitch on the back of the cabinet door isn't causing the problems? I just want to be sure because it sounds like that back door has been taken off on your machine and there is a killswitch there that turns off the machine when the back door is not present.
Post #10 · Posted at 2013-07-10 04:41:04pm 12 years ago
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Either the machine is overheating and you need to replace the PSU, or there isn't enough power being supplied to the machine during use, and you need to replace the PSU. Unless it's some funny business with the way Python DDR cabinets are setup, it really sounds like you need a new power supply.
Does the power supply allow you to make fine adjustments to it? Have you tried changing the settings to see of that fixes your problem?
Does the power supply allow you to make fine adjustments to it? Have you tried changing the settings to see of that fixes your problem?
Post #11 · Posted at 2013-07-11 01:10:14am 11.9 years ago
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A fan isn't going to make a difference on a python 2 board. It literally is a PS2 in the box and nothing besides the PS2 gets that hot. If anything its just not getting proper circulation so open the python 2 casing and clean it out. I am sure its clogged with dust. If that's not it then its likely your power supply acting up. Also I just want to make sure of this but you guys are sure that the killswitch on the back of the cabinet door isn't causing the problems? I just want to be sure because it sounds like that back door has been taken off on your machine and there is a killswitch there that turns off the machine when the back door is not present.
Yea, The back is open. Didn't know about the kill switch....
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Does the power supply allow you to make fine adjustments to it? Have you tried changing the settings to see of that fixes your problem?
never tried actually messing around with the setting of that... didnt even know thats possible...
Post #12 · Posted at 2013-07-11 08:21:46am 11.9 years ago
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Actually I am not sure if you can adjust the power settings for the PSU. From my understanding and based on my experience with other cabinets, its not your normal everyday PSU. You could try turning it up a bit if there is knob to do so, but I would suggest you have someone on hand with a multi-meter to check voltage thresholds.
And ya, there is a killswitch at least on Japanese cabinets. I am not sure about the American dedicated cabinets though as I never worked on the inside of one.
Hopefully its not something wrong with the Python 2's PS2 like capacitors or you are going to be in for a tedious job fixing and replacing those. I would suggest trying everything else first before you tear open the PS2 to check things out, that would be at the very bottom of the list considering PS2's are pretty reliable, and the only thing that usually goes wrong is the HDD failing (which is not your problem).
And ya, there is a killswitch at least on Japanese cabinets. I am not sure about the American dedicated cabinets though as I never worked on the inside of one.
Hopefully its not something wrong with the Python 2's PS2 like capacitors or you are going to be in for a tedious job fixing and replacing those. I would suggest trying everything else first before you tear open the PS2 to check things out, that would be at the very bottom of the list considering PS2's are pretty reliable, and the only thing that usually goes wrong is the HDD failing (which is not your problem).
Post #13 · Posted at 2013-07-11 09:15:54am 11.9 years ago
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And ya, there is a killswitch at least on Japanese cabinets. I am not sure about the American dedicated cabinets though as I never worked on the inside of one.
Would the Killswitch turn on if nobody was playing? because the cabinet is fine when nobody is playing. its just an excessive play when it turns off.
Post #14 · Posted at 2013-07-11 09:26:06am 11.9 years ago
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The killswitch works like this: There is a button on the cabinet in the corner where the back door goes. When the door is present it pushes this button down and lets the machine run current through the entire machine. If the button is not pressed, the current is blocked and nothing gets power.
Now that I am re-reading what you posted, its likely not this. You would get absolutely no power if the killswitch was engaged. The only way its probably possible is this: some people tape their killswitch down and if the tape doesn't hold it then powers the cabinet off.
Now that I am re-reading what you posted, its likely not this. You would get absolutely no power if the killswitch was engaged. The only way its probably possible is this: some people tape their killswitch down and if the tape doesn't hold it then powers the cabinet off.
Post #15 · Posted at 2013-07-11 01:04:59pm 11.9 years ago
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The killswitch works like this: There is a button on the cabinet in the corner where the back door goes. When the door is present it pushes this button down and lets the machine run current through the entire machine. If the button is not pressed, the current is blocked and nothing gets power.
Now that I am re-reading what you posted, its likely not this. You would get absolutely no power if the killswitch was engaged. The only way its probably possible is this: some people tape their killswitch down and if the tape doesn't hold it then powers the cabinet off.
Now that I am re-reading what you posted, its likely not this. You would get absolutely no power if the killswitch was engaged. The only way its probably possible is this: some people tape their killswitch down and if the tape doesn't hold it then powers the cabinet off.
ill check if they actually "Taped" the killswitch.. i doubt they know about it though.