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Post #1 · Posted at 2012-10-07 10:30:05am 12.7 years ago

Offline black4ever
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Not sure if right thread but I am having another issue in Stepmania. I am having a hard time saving simfiles I am doing. I can't really explain this but this is how it happened:

I was doing a simfile for Call Me Maybe and I wanted to change the offset because it felt a little off-sync. The offset was -0.289000 and I changed it to -0.288750 and it applied to all difficulties. I saved it and when I went back, it was the original; -289000. I even changed it on the .ssc file on Notepad then saved it but it stays the same. I also tried to reload songs/courses but it failed.

I DO NOT want to re-step it again because it is very time-consuming and I can't think of good step patterns for people who play it. I need help with it and I must have a solution right away so it won't happen in my future works..
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Post #2 · Posted at 2012-10-07 10:32:46am 12.7 years ago

Offline NuVirus
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You should probably stay away from SM5 entirely, because it seems that the introduction of .ssc files has been causing problems left and right. I highly suggest you get SM4.
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Post #3 · Posted at 2012-10-07 10:34:12am 12.7 years ago

Offline KNS-17
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Sometimes the offset auto-rounds to the thousandths place. Is there a chance you could input a different offset that would still be on rhythm with your steps?
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Post #4 · Posted at 2012-10-07 11:15:34am 12.7 years ago

Offline NuVirus
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Nope. It's just not going to work out, as long as you're using SM5, period.
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Post #5 · Posted at 2012-10-07 11:51:27am 12.7 years ago

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Quote: NuVirus
I highly suggest you get SM4.

lol



fuck all that shit, use SM3.9 or at 3.95
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Post #6 · Posted at 2012-10-07 11:54:12am 12.7 years ago

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Make sure you're in Song Timing mode, and not Step Timing mode, when you adjust your offset (use the 't' key to switch between them and look to the lower-right corner of the edit window to check). When you adjust the offset, you'll also have to reset each chart to that offset, by switching back to Step Timing and using "Erase Step Timing" from the F4 timing menu.
If all else fails, edit the .sm manually with the new offset and delete the .ssc and .old files, then reload sims. The .ssc format stores all timing data separately for each chart, but any Song Timing data is saved to the same place in the file that it is for the .sm format.

KNS-17's point is also valid - only SM5 can use any precision beyond three decimal places, so changing the offset from -0.289000 to -0.288750 makes no difference in any older version.

NuVirus: SM4 is broken and dead, why recommend it instead of 3.95/oITG?
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Post #7 · Posted at 2012-10-07 12:14:46pm 12.7 years ago

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Quote: Silverhawke
Quote: NuVirus
I highly suggest you get SM4.

lol



fuck all that shit, use SM3.9 or at 3.95

I don't see SM 3.95 being available for Macintosh anytime soon.

Quote: Telperion
Make sure you're in Song Timing mode, and not Step Timing mode, when you adjust your offset (use the 't' key to switch between them and look to the lower-right corner of the edit window to check). When you adjust the offset, you'll also have to reset each chart to that offset, by switching back to Step Timing and using "Erase Step Timing" from the F4 timing menu.
If all else fails, edit the .sm manually with the new offset and delete the .ssc and .old files, then reload sims. The .ssc format stores all timing data separately for each chart, but any Song Timing data is saved to the same place in the file that it is for the .sm format.

KNS-17's point is also valid - only SM5 can use any precision beyond three decimal places, so changing the offset from -0.289000 to -0.288750 makes no difference in any older version.

NuVirus: SM4 is broken and dead, why recommend it instead of 3.95/oITG?

Until 3.95, and oITG are available for MAC, I'm sorry but, I'm just going to have to disagree with you guys.
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Post #8 · Posted at 2012-10-07 12:15:11pm 12.7 years ago

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3.9 works then.

Also are you using Mac or black4ever is using Mac?
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Post #9 · Posted at 2012-10-07 12:19:01pm 12.7 years ago

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Quote: Silverhawke
3.9 works then.

Also are you using Mac or black4ever is using Mac?

I'm using MAC, and I cannot use 3.9, because I have the following issues with it:
1. It only works on full screen for me. Therefore, if it crashes (it does so half of the time I use it), I have to waste my time unplugging & re-plugging in my MAC.
2. Without compatibility with rolls, there goes half of my simfiles, and other stuff I would've played on 3.9

Let's just say I have a "worst case scenario" of a situation, just because I have a have a MAC.
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Post #10 · Posted at 2012-10-07 12:20:17pm 12.7 years ago

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Well, too bad for you then, since this thread is about black4ever's setup.
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Post #11 · Posted at 2012-10-07 12:22:13pm 12.7 years ago

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Quote: Silverhawke
3.9 works then.

Also are you using Mac or black4ever is using Mac?
I use Windows.
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Post #12 · Posted at 2012-10-07 02:43:59pm 12.7 years ago

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Are you on Windows 7?

Is SM installed in Program Files?

Did you edit the SM file in game or in notepad/other text editor?

Post #13 · Posted at 2012-10-07 03:16:03pm 12.7 years ago

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Quote: Ashura96
Are you on Windows 7?

Is SM installed in Program Files?

Did you edit the SM file in game or in notepad/other text editor?
I use Windows 7, I installed it in my HDD, and I edit the SM file both in-game and other text editors
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Post #14 · Posted at 2012-10-07 03:20:06pm 12.7 years ago

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Is it installed under C:\Program Files?

If so, all of your saved data from inside SM is saving it to another directory.

Post #15 · Posted at 2012-10-07 03:24:51pm 12.7 years ago

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You should probably stay away from SM5 entirely, because it seems that the introduction of .ssc files has been causing problems left and right. I highly suggest you get SM4.

Everything about that statement is just wrong. StepMania 5 has no more issues than any other version of StepMania, the biggest one being that it tries to save things all over the computer (on Windows machines only). Which is a VERY easy fix. And recommending a very unstable build in its place is not going to help anyone.

StepMania 5 runs in all modes on all major operating systems, it has the most advanced editor and still makes perfectly fine .sm files. And, if you follow the instructions in the link above, it saves everything right where it's suppose to.

black, can I ask if you're trying to edit the text documents while StepMania is running?

Post #16 · Posted at 2012-10-07 03:45:12pm 12.7 years ago

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I use SM3.9+REDUX with EditorSavePlusFeatures set to off. No extra useless tags or numbers in sm files indeed.

SM5's ssc files saves individual offset data per difficulty.

Post #17 · Posted at 2012-10-07 04:37:49pm 12.7 years ago

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Quote: Ashura96
Is it installed under C:\Program Files?

If so, all of your saved data from inside SM is saving it to another directory.

It is on my Portable Hard Drive on the Applications folder.
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Post #18 · Posted at 2012-10-07 06:35:58pm 12.7 years ago

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My portable HDD brings up UAC prompts when I open certain files on windows vista.

You may have to start SM5 with admin privileges.
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Post #19 · Posted at 2012-10-07 09:34:21pm 12.7 years ago

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Ack. I just realized that I changed the offset of the song in SONG TIMING MODE, not Step Timing Mode. Goodness how stupid am I.
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