Post #1 · Posted at 2010-04-21 08:30:55am 15.2 years ago
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Okay, so this has sort of been bothering me for a while. There are many songs that have certain foot ratings (either old or new version) that just don't seem like they should be that specific rating, maybe higher or lower.
A big example is Petit Love from DDR 4th Mix Plus. This is a 7-footer, but it's really hard for a 7-footer. Some of the streams can get fairly complicated, and it's not exactly a slow song either. It should have been an eight-footer, in my opinion, maybe an 11 on the new scale.
If you're wondering, there's a video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TTIfnPyjbI
Another great example is Witch Doctor from DDRMAX. Should be a 9, but it's an 8. Same with Waka Laka.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW-_-DEXQ_Q and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnucSEw6sds.
What songs do you think have terrible ratings?
A big example is Petit Love from DDR 4th Mix Plus. This is a 7-footer, but it's really hard for a 7-footer. Some of the streams can get fairly complicated, and it's not exactly a slow song either. It should have been an eight-footer, in my opinion, maybe an 11 on the new scale.
If you're wondering, there's a video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TTIfnPyjbI
Another great example is Witch Doctor from DDRMAX. Should be a 9, but it's an 8. Same with Waka Laka.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW-_-DEXQ_Q and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnucSEw6sds.
What songs do you think have terrible ratings?
Post #2 · Posted at 2010-04-21 01:11:07pm 15.2 years ago
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A lot of things on Supernova2 are underrated, specifically Paranoia Hades on Trick mode. It's rated an 8 and I can't pass the thing.
Also, Let the beat hit 'em! (Classic R&B Style) on DDRX2 for PS2 seems to be rated way higher than it should be.
Also, Let the beat hit 'em! (Classic R&B Style) on DDRX2 for PS2 seems to be rated way higher than it should be.
Post #3 · Posted at 2010-04-21 02:00:42pm 15.2 years ago
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On the Bounce Challenge doesn't really have the 16 feel that MAX 300 SMMM challenge has tbh...
Post #4 · Posted at 2010-04-21 08:35:31pm 15.2 years ago
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Lately I'm imagining if Healing Vision ~Angelic Mix~, So Deep ~Perfect Sphere Remix~, and Arrabbiata were 10 on Heavy. And I think there's some more.
Post #5 · Posted at 2010-04-21 09:00:55pm 15.2 years ago
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Personally I never really found So Deep or HVAM to be 10s, but there you go.
Anyway, Akiba Drift from Universe 2. Rating it a 6 was a cruel, cruel joke.
Anyway, Akiba Drift from Universe 2. Rating it a 6 was a cruel, cruel joke.
Post #6 · Posted at 2010-04-21 09:21:41pm 15.2 years ago
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I disagree with Healing Vision ~Angelic Mix~ and So Deep ~Perfect Sphere Remix~.
Maybe Arrabbiate should be a low 10 yes (because there is so much DUMP parts).
I remember Mind Parasite was a 6' on SN. This killed some player who plays only 6/7 feets cause the chart is a 8
(I heard about a fix where the son is re-rated as a 8, but we didn't got that in France).
There is so many weird foot rating, especially in double. Sometime a 7' will almost rape you when you can clear 9.5 feets :s
Imo the 1-18(1-20) scale was almost a good idea.
They should had keep the original scale rating but fix some stuffs.
Be more accurate, like using at least a .5 for exemple. I use that when i'm talking about a DDR/ITG/CUSTOM/ECT song or sometimes the terms low/mid/high.
Also, keep the old scale but break the 10' limit. PSMO a 11.5 or maybe a low12. It's beetween Mythologie and Bloodrush for me.
And yeah at Paranois Hades
on SN2 rated as a 9 O_o
Fortunatly, they rated this 15 on X. So it's at least a 10.
EDIT : I forgot an other exemple : SUNKiSS♥DROP
rated as a 7 on SN2. This should be a 8 ^^'
Maybe Arrabbiate should be a low 10 yes (because there is so much DUMP parts).
I remember Mind Parasite was a 6' on SN. This killed some player who plays only 6/7 feets cause the chart is a 8

(I heard about a fix where the son is re-rated as a 8, but we didn't got that in France).
There is so many weird foot rating, especially in double. Sometime a 7' will almost rape you when you can clear 9.5 feets :s
Imo the 1-18(1-20) scale was almost a good idea.
They should had keep the original scale rating but fix some stuffs.
Be more accurate, like using at least a .5 for exemple. I use that when i'm talking about a DDR/ITG/CUSTOM/ECT song or sometimes the terms low/mid/high.
Also, keep the old scale but break the 10' limit. PSMO a 11.5 or maybe a low12. It's beetween Mythologie and Bloodrush for me.
And yeah at Paranois Hades

Fortunatly, they rated this 15 on X. So it's at least a 10.
EDIT : I forgot an other exemple : SUNKiSS♥DROP

Post #7 · Posted at 2010-04-21 09:43:24pm 15.2 years ago
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Do I have to into the whole Venus 
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Post #8 · Posted at 2010-04-21 10:05:10pm 15.2 years ago
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Also a slightly less-remembered example, Ultramix 3's Hot On The Phone
. No fucking way's that a 4.

Post #9 · Posted at 2010-04-21 11:00:14pm 15.2 years ago
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- Drop Out
when it was an 8. Yeah, streams that only 10 bpm slower than Paranoia Survivor totally count as an 8. At least from MAX2 onward it has an accurate foot rating.
- Maxx Unlimited
. It's just as difficult as most 9's, but it was only rated an 8. I don't see the logic behind that.
- Like PanStyle mentioned, Mind Parasite
on SN1. For whatever reason, the foot rating and groove radar were the exact same ones used for the song Monkey Punk.
- Gradiustic Cyber
on MAX1 US. It has trills that are just as fast as Max 300 and lots of jumps, but it was only rated an 8. lol wut
- DXY
. I actually think it's more difficult than stoic, which is a 9.

- Maxx Unlimited

- Like PanStyle mentioned, Mind Parasite

- Gradiustic Cyber

- DXY

Post #10 · Posted at 2010-04-21 11:10:34pm 15.2 years ago
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I could spend hours mentioning stuff from SN2 alone.
Also DDR X has a lot of messed up 12's and 13's.
Also DDR X has a lot of messed up 12's and 13's.
Post #11 · Posted at 2010-04-21 11:39:29pm 15.2 years ago
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Quote: PureBlue
- Like PanStyle mentioned, Mind Parasite
on SN1. For whatever reason, the foot rating and groove radar were the exact same ones used for the song Monkey Punk.
Programming error, which (IIRC) was corrected with the patch that enabled FELM and Flow (true style)
Post #12 · Posted at 2010-04-21 11:40:11pm 15.2 years ago
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Max 300, Max Unlimited and The Legend of Max
are all 15 footers, but I believe they one is harder than the other. Plus, comparing Max 300
and PARONOiA Hades
, I believe maaaaaaybe Hades should be a 16.



Post #13 · Posted at 2010-04-21 11:52:01pm 15.2 years ago
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Quote: PureBlue
- Drop Out
when it was an 8. Yeah, streams that only 10 bpm slower than Paranoia Survivor totally count as an 8. At least from MAX2 onward it has an accurate foot rating.
4th Mix (and by extension, KONAMIX) had a scale of 1-9, so I think the 8 seemed fitting (and a high 8 at that). Once the scale expanded to 10, DROP OUT went up to a 9.
And, yes, I do know DROP OUT debuted in the SOLO games (forget exactly which)
Quote: Oni-91
Also a slightly less-remembered example, Ultramix 3's Hot On The Phone
. No fucking way's that a 4.
Agreed. Looks more like a mid-range 5 to me.
Post #14 · Posted at 2010-04-22 12:29:40am 15.2 years ago
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Quote: TsukiyoX
Max 300, Max Unlimited and The Legend of Max
are all 15 footers, but I believe they one is harder than the other. Plus, comparing Max 300
and PARONOiA Hades
, I believe maaaaaaybe Hades should be a 16.
Okay, this is where it's getting opinionated, but I will gladly leave yours be. On the other hand, Doki Doki (Panic Mix). 





Edit:
Quote: Oni-91
It's a typo in the sim. The actual difficulties are 4/7/8.
Post #15 · Posted at 2010-04-22 01:36:48am 15.2 years ago
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Quote: Exor
And, yes, I do know DROP OUT debuted in the SOLO games (forget exactly which)
DanceDance Revolution SOLO 2000. Which, for the record, had a rating scale of 1-8.
Post #16 · Posted at 2010-04-22 01:58:13am 15.2 years ago
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Okay, this is where it's getting opinionated, but I will gladly leave yours be. On the other hand, Doki Doki (Panic Mix).
1,
4, and
7 I think not.
It's a typo in the sim. The actual difficulties are 4/7/8.


Post #17 · Posted at 2010-04-22 03:12:04am 15.2 years ago
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Quote: PureBlue
- Gradiustic Cyber

- DXY

GdCy, ok.
DXY, no.
It should remain an 8.
Post #18 · Posted at 2010-04-22 03:20:00am 15.2 years ago
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Quote: Chi
DanceDance Revolution SOLO 2000. Which, for the record, had a rating scale of 1-8.
Thanks for clearing that up. I remembered that every game in the main series prior to 4th Mix had the 1-8 rating scale...Quote: PureBlue
- Gradiustic Cyber
on MAX1 US. It has trills that are just as fast as Max 300 and lots of jumps, but it was only rated an 8. lol wut
It's a 9 in MAX US.
EDIT: OH SHIT, it does say 8...it was revised in EX AC (released AFTER MAX US) to be a 9.
Post #19 · Posted at 2010-04-22 04:31:20am 15.2 years ago
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Quote: Exor
I remembered that every game in the main series prior to 4th Mix had the 1-8 rating scale...
Your memory is faulty

3rdMIX had a few 9s (e.g. Afronova, Dynamite Rave, Captain Jack, etc. etc.).
Post #20 · Posted at 2010-04-22 06:08:49am 15.2 years ago
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DYNAMITE RAVE was an 8 in some mix, IIRC... I totally can't remember, but I swear it was an 8 at some point, in one of 3rdMIX's incarnations/spinoffs.