Post #1 · Posted at 2009-09-19 04:00:05am 15.6 years ago
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What do you think is the fastest foot movement that's required in DDR?
Currently the fastest ones I've found are:
(all songs apply to single challenge or single expert if there's no challenge chart)
1. Dead End GRS at 760 bpm (16th note triplet jumps at 190 bpm)
2. Insaner (L.E.D.'s Punishment Mix) at 700 bpm (8th note doublestep at 350 bpm)
3. Trim at 680 bpm (8th note doublestep at 340 bpm)
4. MAXX Unlimited at 640 bpm (8th note doublestep at 320 bpm)
5. MAX. (period) at 600 bpm (quarter note doublestep at 600 bpm)
6. tokyoEVOLVED (all versions) at 560 bpm (8th note doublestep at 280 bpm)
7. osaka EVOLVED Ver. B at 500 bpm (8th note triplet jumps at 250 bpm)
8. 888 at 444 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 444 bpm, so each foot has to step at 444 bpm)
9. Pluto the First at 440 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 440 bpm)
10. Pluto at 440 bpm (8th note quintuple step at 220 bpm)
11. Pluto Relinquish at 400 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 400 bpm)
Personally I think that anything above Pluto Relinquish isnear impossible insane unless you have ridiculously fast feet and don't mind getting giant cramps afterward.
Currently the fastest ones I've found are:
(all songs apply to single challenge or single expert if there's no challenge chart)
1. Dead End GRS at 760 bpm (16th note triplet jumps at 190 bpm)
2. Insaner (L.E.D.'s Punishment Mix) at 700 bpm (8th note doublestep at 350 bpm)
3. Trim at 680 bpm (8th note doublestep at 340 bpm)
4. MAXX Unlimited at 640 bpm (8th note doublestep at 320 bpm)
5. MAX. (period) at 600 bpm (quarter note doublestep at 600 bpm)
6. tokyoEVOLVED (all versions) at 560 bpm (8th note doublestep at 280 bpm)
7. osaka EVOLVED Ver. B at 500 bpm (8th note triplet jumps at 250 bpm)
8. 888 at 444 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 444 bpm, so each foot has to step at 444 bpm)
9. Pluto the First at 440 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 440 bpm)
10. Pluto at 440 bpm (8th note quintuple step at 220 bpm)
11. Pluto Relinquish at 400 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 400 bpm)
Personally I think that anything above Pluto Relinquish is
Post #2 · Posted at 2009-09-19 04:32:37am 15.6 years ago
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2. osaka EVOLVED Ver. B at 500 bpm (8th note triplet jumps at 250 bpm)
3. osaka EVOLVED (all versions) at 480 bpm (16th note doublestep at 120 bpm)
4. 888 at 444 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 444 bpm, so each foot has to step at 444 bpm)
5. Pluto the First at 440 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 440 bpm)
3. osaka EVOLVED (all versions) at 480 bpm (16th note doublestep at 120 bpm)
4. 888 at 444 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 444 bpm, so each foot has to step at 444 bpm)
5. Pluto the First at 440 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 440 bpm)
These are all CS-exclusives, so they aren't designed to be played on an arcade stage, and It's obviously much easier to pull off fast streams on a Wii / XBox soft mat.
Isn't Healing-D-Vision up there somewhere near Relinquish?
Post #3 · Posted at 2009-09-19 05:03:57am 15.6 years ago
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Also some of your stuff there is wrong. 8th notes at 440 BPM is not 440 BPM.
Edited numbers, cba to reorder. And all the MAX songs reach at least 600.
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1. Dead End GRS at 760 bpm (16th note triplet jumps at 190 bpm)
2. osaka EVOLVED Ver. B at 500 bpm (8th note triplet jumps at 250 bpm)
3. osaka EVOLVED (all versions) at 480 bpm (16th note doublestep at 120 bpm)
4. 888 at 888 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 444 bpm, so each foot has to step at 444 bpm)
5. Pluto the First at 880 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 440 bpm)
6. Pluto Relinquish at 800 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 400 bpm)
2. osaka EVOLVED Ver. B at 500 bpm (8th note triplet jumps at 250 bpm)
3. osaka EVOLVED (all versions) at 480 bpm (16th note doublestep at 120 bpm)
4. 888 at 888 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 444 bpm, so each foot has to step at 444 bpm)
5. Pluto the First at 880 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 440 bpm)
6. Pluto Relinquish at 800 bpm (stream of 8th notes at 400 bpm)
Edited numbers, cba to reorder. And all the MAX songs reach at least 600.
Post #4 · Posted at 2009-09-19 05:06:56am 15.6 years ago
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These are all CS-exclusives, so they aren't designed to be played on an arcade stage, and It's obviously much easier to pull off fast streams on a Wii / XBox soft mat.
Isn't Healing-D-Vision up there somewhere near Relinquish?
HDV is only 720, Relinquish is still quite a bit faster.Isn't Healing-D-Vision up there somewhere near Relinquish?
also ive found doing streams on a soft mat is much harder than the arcade. everything is harder in fact.
Post #5 · Posted at 2009-09-19 05:41:17am 15.6 years ago
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Personally I think that anything above Pluto Relinquish is near impossible unless you have ridiculously fast feet and don't mind getting giant cramps afterward.
Don't use the word "impossible", even if you say "near".
Anyway, to use a different comparison, Pluto Relinquish gets up to 13 1/3 steps per second (sps). 888 gets up to 14.8. In that video, Matt maintains 16 1/3.
Post #6 · Posted at 2009-09-19 06:17:31am 15.6 years ago
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You should know that it's MUCH easier to do fast streams in ITG than in DDR...
Post #7 · Posted at 2009-09-19 06:33:40am 15.6 years ago
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Also some of your stuff there is wrong. 8th notes at 440 BPM is not 440 BPM.
When I said "fastest foot movement", I meant movements that must be done with one foot.
So stepping 8th notes at 440 BPM require each foot to step staggered quarter notes at 440 BPM, not 880.
By the way, Pluto Relinquish has 2 instances where there are two notes separated by a 16th note at 400 BPM, meaning that they are separated by only about 1/27 of a second.
Post #8 · Posted at 2009-09-19 06:57:23am 15.6 years ago
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You didn't say that clearly enough though.
But for that you can add MAXX Unlimited's step-jumps. It's either 600 or 640 BPM, not quite sure.
But for that you can add MAXX Unlimited's step-jumps. It's either 600 or 640 BPM, not quite sure.
Post #9 · Posted at 2009-09-19 07:28:46am 15.6 years ago
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Thanks. Added.
Post #10 · Posted at 2009-09-19 07:31:39am 15.6 years ago
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But for that you can add MAXX Unlimited's step-jumps. It's either 600 or 640 BPM, not quite sure.
600 and 640. The step-jumps appear in both halves of the song.
Post #11 · Posted at 2009-09-19 07:31:44am 15.6 years ago
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Also how could I forget Trim at 680 (340 8ths)?
And also in CS releases, Insaner (L.E.D.'s Punishment Remix) has an ending of 700 (350 8ths).
And now to really be pulling off Wheelies of Fact, It's a Small World (Ducking Hardcore Mix) from Disney's Rave. Has 183BPM 16th taps, which equates to 732 BPM. OK, I think that's everything I remember.
And also in CS releases, Insaner (L.E.D.'s Punishment Remix) has an ending of 700 (350 8ths).
And now to really be pulling off Wheelies of Fact, It's a Small World (Ducking Hardcore Mix) from Disney's Rave. Has 183BPM 16th taps, which equates to 732 BPM. OK, I think that's everything I remember.
Post #12 · Posted at 2009-09-19 07:32:34am 15.6 years ago
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Don't feel bad; I try to forget about Trim every chance I get.
Post #13 · Posted at 2009-09-19 07:38:49am 15.6 years ago
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I love Trim...
Post #14 · Posted at 2009-09-19 07:48:33am 15.6 years ago
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MAX.(period). The 600bpm part.
Post #15 · Posted at 2009-09-19 08:36:04am 15.6 years ago
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MAX.(period). The 600bpm part.
Not at all. The speed at which you must step is no greater than MAX 300 and just about every 10 ever requires faster stepping than MAX. (period). Hell, even SAKURA does.