Post #141 · Publicado en 2019-04-22 03:15:53pm Hace 5.4 años
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you're right but yes point still stands
Post #142 · Publicado en 2019-04-24 06:09:06pm Hace 5.4 años
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Quote: rayword45
Trigger should be a 17.
I'm not quite sure how you came to this conclusion, but I think it's fine as an easier 18.
Compared to Spanish Snowy Dance CSP, DeltaMAX CSP, Idola CSP, Air Heroes CSP, Puberty Dysmythia CSP, hell even REVOLUTION CSP is pretty comparable in density. (Hell, let's go a bit older, does nobody else find the idea that someone would fail Trigger but survive the back half of FAXX preposterous?)
The ending and sync of Trigger is pretty shitty for scoring but it requires FAR less stamina than I'd argue a majority of the 17s in the game
I'd also argue Mei and maybe HDV are 17s for passing (but probably not the latter, I just find that one bizarrely easy for someone who considers Pluto Relinquish one of the harder 18s), but IMO the score killers in those charts are FAR more egregious enough that I think they're fine as 18s.
Post #143 · Publicado en 2019-05-29 07:29:59pm Hace 5.3 años
It boggles the mind why Spanish Snowy Dance is still a 15. The EDP chart got upped to 16, why not the ESP?
Post #144 · Publicado en 2019-05-29 09:53:19pm Hace 5.3 años
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It boggles the mind why Spanish Snowy Dance is still a 15. The EDP chart got upped to 16, why not the ESP?
Yeah, the fact that Vanquish the Ghost is a 16, and Spanish Snowy Dance and Beach Side Bunny are both 15s, makes me sad. There's no way VtG is harder than those two songs
Post #145 · Publicado en 2019-08-03 05:45:11pm Hace 5.1 años
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If it hasn't been brought up yet, I think Tribe S- should really be a 14, the rhythms seem like a lot for even a hard 13.
Post #146 · Publicado en 2019-08-03 06:14:14pm Hace 5.1 años
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All singles:
No Tears Left To Cry 10 ->11
- Too many 16th streams and 12ths streams for a 10
Something Like This (Alesso Remix) ditto
- Too many 16ths streams for a 10
Tsugaru 12 -> 13
- The gallops
Tsugaru (Apple Mix) 11->12
- Ditto
D2R (Freeze Special) 12->11 or D2R should be a 12 instead
- For freeze special, the spins are tough and the streams are there but the chart isn't draining; for the original it's the bursts, and the chart doesn't look like an 11
No Tears Left To Cry 10 ->11
- Too many 16th streams and 12ths streams for a 10
Something Like This (Alesso Remix) ditto
- Too many 16ths streams for a 10
Tsugaru 12 -> 13
- The gallops
Tsugaru (Apple Mix) 11->12
- Ditto
D2R (Freeze Special) 12->11 or D2R should be a 12 instead
- For freeze special, the spins are tough and the streams are there but the chart isn't draining; for the original it's the bursts, and the chart doesn't look like an 11
Post #147 · Publicado en 2019-08-03 06:32:49pm Hace 5.1 años
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Helios could definitely qualify as a 16
Post #148 · Publicado en 2019-08-03 07:22:35pm Hace 5.1 años
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LONG TRAIN RUNNIN' (20th Anniversary Mix) EDP does not look like a 13 IMO
Post #149 · Publicado en 2019-08-04 06:45:33pm Hace 5.1 años
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Quote: SomethingRandom
Tsugaru 12 -> 13
- The gallops
- The gallops
Seconded. The EDP was bumped up to 13 for A20 so perhaps they'll bump the ESP in due time.
Post #150 · Publicado en 2019-08-11 12:16:02pm Hace 5.1 años
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Ska Ska No.3 ESP 12 -> 11
Small Steps DSP 7 -> 6
Small Steps ESP 10 -> 9
Small Steps DSP 7 -> 6
Small Steps ESP 10 -> 9
Post #151 · Publicado en 2019-08-11 05:34:57pm Hace 5.1 años
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Rejoin S-: 6 ->7
Rejoin S-: 10->11
Life is beautiful S-: 16->15
Rejoin is yet another song where they rerated the offending difficulties for doubles but not singles.
I know this thread has been all DDR so far, but here's a few for jubeat as well:
December Breeze EXT: 10.0 -> 10.2/.3
Xibercannon EXT: 10.0 -> 10.1
ディアブロ EXT (even though it's already been removed): 9.3 -> 9.6/.7
Rejoin S-: 10->11
Life is beautiful S-: 16->15
Rejoin is yet another song where they rerated the offending difficulties for doubles but not singles.
I know this thread has been all DDR so far, but here's a few for jubeat as well:
December Breeze EXT: 10.0 -> 10.2/.3
Xibercannon EXT: 10.0 -> 10.1
ディアブロ EXT (even though it's already been removed): 9.3 -> 9.6/.7
Post #152 · Publicado en 2019-08-12 02:29:25pm Hace 5.1 años
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I think Life is Beautiful is fine as a 16. Yes, the patterns are mega easy, but it is a DRAINING song to play. Plus with Emera bumped down this is a good replacement baby 16.
Post #153 · Publicado en 2019-08-14 07:34:29am Hace 5.1 años
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I took the time to reflect those A20 re-ratings and revised a ton of thoughts in the meantime. Put a few new things here and there, took out a few others, and such. Still don't know a whole lot on lower difficulties, since I tend to just look at what I hear people say are glaring errors.
1st
MAKE IT BETTER S- 12 -> 11
PARANOiA D- 11 -> 12
2nd
BRILLIANT 2U (Orchestra Groove) D- 9 -> 8
GENOM SCREAMS D- 12 -> 13
MAKE IT BETTER (So-REAL Mix) S- 10 -> 11
PARANOiA KCET ~clean mix~ D- 15 -> 14
PARANOiA MAX ~DIRTY MIX~ D- 11 -> 12
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME D- 8 -> 7
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME (Jazzy Groove) D- 11 -> 10
3rd
DROP THE BOMB D- 10 -> 11
LOVE THIS FEELIN’ D- 11 -> 12
4th
BABY BABY GIMME YOUR LOVE D- 9 -> 7
BURNIN’ THE FLOOR D- 12 -> 10
MY SUMMER LOVE S- 12 -> 11 / D- 12 -> 10
ORION.78(AMeuro-MIX) D- 9 -> 10
SUPER STAR S- 12 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE CLIMAX S- 12 -> 13
5th
サナ・モレッテ・ネ・エンテ S- 12 -> 11 / D- 12 -> 11
AFRONOVA PRIMEVAL S- 8 -> 10 / D- 9 -> 10, 13 -> 14
CAN'T STOP FALLIN' IN LOVE ~SPEED MIX~ S- 12 -> 13
STILL IN MY HEART D- 9 -> 10
MAX
exotic ethnic D- 7 -> 9
Let the beat hit em!(CLASSIC R&B STYLE) S- 10 -> 9 / D- 10 -> 9
MAX 300 S- 12 -> 13
MAX2
革命 D- 11 -> 12
AFRONOVA(FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX) S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
D2R D- 11 -> 12
DROP OUT(FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX) S- 12 -> 13
MY SUMMER LOVE(TOMMY'S SMILE MIX) S- 12 -> 11
Secret Rendez-vous D- 12 -> 11
EXTREME
蒼い衝動 ~for EXTREME~ S- 9 -> 10 / D- 6 -> 8, 11 -> 10
三毛猫ロック S- 11 -> 12
A S- 12 -> 13
Across the nightmare D- 13 -> 12
air D- 11 -> 10
bag S- 11 -> 10 / D- 12 -> 10
I'm gonna get you! S- 9 -> 10
Kiss me all night long D- 11 -> 10
♥Love²シュガ→♥ S- 8 -> 9
LOVE♥SHINE S- 9 -> 10
PARANOIA survivor MAX S- 11 -> 12
sync (EXTREME version) S- 9 -> 10
The legend of MAX S- 13 -> 12 / D- 12 -> 13
TRIP MACHINE survivor D- 12 -> 13
1998 S- 9 -> 10 / D- 9 -> 10
SuperNOVA
怒れる大きな白い馬 S- 11 -> 12 / D- 11 -> 12
月光蝶 S- 10 -> 11
BALLAD FOR YOU~想いの雨~ S- 11 -> 9 / D- 11 -> 9
Brazilian Anthem S- 12 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
cachaca S- 12 -> 11
CURUS S- 7 -> 6, 10 -> 11
DoLL D- 14 -> 13
Dragon Blade D- 11 -> 12
Flow D- 11 -> 12
HAPPY☆ANGEL D- 11 -> 12
KEEP ON MOVIN' ~DMX MIX~ D- 12 -> 11
LOGICAL DASH S- 11 -> 10
MAX 300 (Super-Max-Me Mix) S- 13 -> 14 / D- 9 -> 11, 12 -> 13, 15 -> 16
MIDNIGHT SPECIAL S- 10 -> 11
Mind Parasite S- 13 -> 12
No.13 D- 12 -> 13
PARANOiA-Respect- S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12-> 13
STARS☆☆☆(2nd NAOKI's style) D- 11 -> 10
Star Gate Heaven D- 11 -> 12
TIERRA BUENA D- 11 -> 10
TOMORROW S- 10 -> 11
TRUE♥LOVE S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
SuperNOVA2
Arrabbiata S- 11 -> 10
D2R (“FREEZE” Special) D- 13 -> 11
FIRE S- 11 -> 12
Freeway Shuffle D- 9 -> 10
L'amour et la liberté(Darwin & DJ Silver remix) S- 11 -> 12
Raspberry♥Heart(English version) S- 11 -> 10 / D- 12 -> 11
Shades of Grey S- 11 -> 9
STARS☆☆☆ (Re-tuned by HΛL) - DDR EDITION – S- 9 -> 10 / D- 10 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE PhoeniX S- 11 -> 12 / D- 12 -> 13
Unreal S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
X
革命(X-Special) S- 14 -> 13
AFRONOVA(X-Special) S- 13 -> 14
dazzle S- 10 -> 9 / D- 10 -> 9
Inspiration D- 9 -> 10
LOVING YOU (Epidemik remix) D- 7 -> 9
Malacca S- 10 -> 9, 13 -> 14 / D- 13 -> 14
on the bounce S- 16 -> 15
PARANOIA ETERNAL(X-Special) D- 13 -> 14
PARANOIA EVOLUTION(X-Special) D- 15 -> 16
S・A・G・A D- 10 -> 12
SABER WING D- 13 -> 14, 13 -> 14
SUPER SAMURAI S- 12 -> 13, D- 12 -> 13
Taj He Spitz D- 11 -> 10
Till the lonely’s gone S- 9 -> 10 / D- 9 -> 10
TimeHollow S- 10 -> 8
Trigger D- 11 -> 12
X2
All My Love D- 11 -> 10
Anti-Matter D- 11 -> 12
Crazy Control S- 9 -> 10
Decade D- 12 -> 11
Heatstroke D- 10 -> 11
in love wit you S- 8 -> 10 / D- 9 -> 10
roppongi EVOLVED ver.D S- 15 -> 16
Poseidon (kors k mix) S- 14 -> 13
POSSESSION S- 7 -> 8 / D- 17 -> 18
Sacred Oath D- 11 -> 12
sakura storm S- 10 -> 11 / D- 11 -> 10
Shiny World S- 14 -> 13
smooooch・∀・S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 12
Taking It To The Sky D- 8 -> 9
Valkyrie dimension S- 15 -> 14
Your Angel S- 10 -> 11
ZETA~素数の世界と超越者~ S- 11 -> 10
ΔMAX S- 3 -> 5, 5 -> 7, 17 -> 16 / D- 7 -> 9
X3 VS 2ndMix
アルストロメリア (walk with you remix) D- 12 -> 11, 13 -> 12
ビューティフル レシート D- 13 -> 12
CRAZY♥LOVE D- 15 -> 14
Find You Again D- 13 -> 12
FLOWER D- 9 -> 10
HEARTBREAK (Sound Selektaz remix) D- 11 -> 10
Let's Get Away D- 13 -> 12
LOVE IS THE POWER -Re:born- S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 12
Mermaid girl D- 12 -> 11
New York EVOLVED (Type B, Type C) D- 16 -> 15
PARANOiA Revolution S- 9 -> 11 / D- 14 -> 15
Seule S- 10 -> 9 / D- 10 -> 9
SigSig S- 12 -> 11
SILVER☆DREAM S- 11 -> 12
Something Special S- 11 -> 9 / D- 11 -> 10
TIME D- 9 -> 10
Tohoku EVOLVED D- 17 -> 18
tokyoEVOLVED (TYPE1, TYPE2, TYPE3) D- 16 -> 15
Tribe D- 10 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE EVOLUTION D- 9 -> 8
TWINKLE♡HEART S- 10 -> 11 / D- 11 -> 13
2013
お米の美味しい炊き方、そしてお米を食べることによるその効果。S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
晴天Bon Voyage D- 11 -> 12
創世ノート S- 13 -> 14
ちくわパフェだよ☆CKP S- 12 -> 11
からふるぱすてる S- 12 -> 13
虹色の花 D- 11 -> 12
フー・フローツS- 12 -> 13 / D- 9 -> 10
めうめうぺったんたん!! D- 15 -> 16
ACROSS WORLD S- 12 -> 11, 14 -> 15
Air Heroes D- 15 -> 16
Blew My Mind S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
Bombay Bomb D- 12 -> 13
Children of the Beat D- 10 -> 11
Elemental Creation D- 14 -> 15
Find The Way S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
GAIA D- 16 -> 17
Magnetic S- 17 -> 16
Monkey Business D- 16 -> 17
New Gravity S- 12 -> 11 / D- 12 -> 11
nightbird lost wing D- 14 -> 15
Qipchãq D- 11 -> 12
RЁVOLUTIΦN D- 17 -> 18
sola D- 12 -> 13
Spanish Snowy Dance S- 15 -> 16 / D- 11 -> 12, 16 -> 17
Starry HEAVEN S- 11 -> 9 / D- 11 -> 10
Straight Oath S- 11 -> 10
Synergy for Angels D- 10 -> 11
THE REASON S- 15 -> 16
Triple Journey -TAG EDITION- S- 16 -> 17
Wow Wow VENUS D- 12 -> 11
2014
漆黒のスペシャルプリンセスサンデー S- 13 -> 12
灼熱Beach Side Bunny S- 11 -> 12 / D- 15 -> 16
天空の華 S- 12 -> 11
ドーパミンD- 17 - > 18
夏色DIARY -DDR mix- S- 10 -> 11 / D- 15 -> 14
パ→ピ→プ→Yeah! S- 13 -> 12
バンブーソード・ガールD- 12 -> 13
ホメ猫☆センセーションS- 10 -> 9
マインド・ゲーム D- 15 -> 14
回レ!雪月花 D- 12 -> 11
ラクガキスト D- 13 -> 14
海神 D- 16 -> 15
Adularia S- 14 -> 13 / D- 13 -> 12
Cleopatrysm S- 15 -> 14 / D- 11 -> 10, 15 -> 14
Din Don Dan D- 10 -> 11
Dispersion Star D- 14 -> 13
Do The Evolution D- 13 -> 12
Engraved Mark S- 12 -> 11 / D- 13 -> 12
FUNKY SUMMER BEACH S- 14 -> 13
Go↓Go↑Girls&Boys! S- 11 -> 10
Idola D- 17 -> 18
IMANOGUILTS S- 15 -> 16 / D- 11 -> 12, 15 -> 16
MAX.(period) S- 12 -> 13
LoveLove DokiDoki D- 12 -> 13
Over The “Period” S- 8 -> 9, 15 -> 16 / D- 15 -> 16
Party Lights (Tommie Sunshine's Brooklyn Fire Remix) S- 11 -> 10
Remain D- 12 -> 13
Romancing Layer S- 11 -> 10
SABER WING (satellite silhouette remix) D- 14 -> 13
Sakura Mirage S- 14 -> 13
Samurai Shogun vs. Master Ninja S- 14 -> 15
Sand Blow D- 16 -> 15
Starlight Fantasia (Endorphins Mix) S- 15 -> 16 / D- 15 -> 16
starmine S- 15 -> 14
Stella Sinistra S- 15 -> 14
Summer fantasy (Darwin remix) S- 13 -> 12
SUPER HERO S- 12 -> 11
The Lonely Streets S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
Truare! S- 11 -> 12 / D- 11 -> 12
True Blue D- 16 -> 15
VEGA S- 14 -> 15 / D- 14 -> 15
8000000 S- 10 -> 9
A
ありふれたせかいせいふく S- 14 -> 13 / D- 14 -> 13
イーディーエム・ジャンパーズ D- 11 -> 12
きゅん×きゅんばっきゅん☆LOVE S- 11 -> 10 / D- 11 -> 12
君氏危うくも近うよれ S- 12 -> 11 / D- 13 -> 12
恋のパズルマジックS- 11 -> 10
春風ブロ―インウィンド D- 14 -> 15
宇宙(ソラ)への片道切符 S- 13 -> 12
チルノのパーフェクトさんすう教室(EDM REMIX) S- 13 -> 14 / D- 13 -> 14
ナイト・オブ・ナイツ D- 15 -> 14
輪廻転生S- 13 -> 14 / D- 13 -> 14
恋愛観測 D- 12 -> 13
ALGORITHM S- 10 -> 11
Astrogazer D- 12 -> 11
Be a Hero! S- 9 -> 10
Boss Rush S- 14 -> 15 / D- 14 -> 15
Electric Dance System Music D- 10 -> 11
Eternal Summer S- 6 -> 7 / D- 6 -> 7
Far east nightbird kors k Remix -DDR edit ver- S- 7 -> 6 / D- 11 -> 10
Happy S- 9 -> 8, 12 -> 11 / D- 13 -> 12
Hillbilly Shoes S- 13 -> 12
I Want You To Know S- 11 -> 10
Life is beautiful S- 16 -> 15
Love You More S- 12 -> 13
MAX 360 S- 12 -> 13, 15 -> 16 / D- 12 -> 13
Neutrino D- 16 -> 17
out of focus S- 12 -> 11 / D- 12 -> 11
Poochie D- 15 -> 16
POSSESSION (20th Anniversary Mix) S- 16 -> 17
Puberty Dysthymia D- 13 -> 14
Rejoin D- 13 -> 14
Sakura Reflection S- 15 -> 14
Sephirot D- 13 -> 12
SHION D- 10 -> 11
The Night Away (MK Remix) S- 12 -> 11
Time Of Our Lives S- 11 -> 10
Towards the TOWER D- 12 -> 13
A20
腐れ外道とチョコレゐト S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 14
ベビーステップ S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
未来(ダ)FUTURE S- 15 -> 14 / D- 15 -> 14
妄想感傷代償連盟 S- 12 -> 11
Avenger D- 17 -> 18
CARTOON HEROES (20th Anniversary Mix) D- 12 -> 13
Dead Heat D- 14 -> 13
Drop The Bounce S- 14 -> 15
HAVE YOU NEVER BEEN MELLOW (20th Anniversary Mix) S- 6 -> 7, 10 -> 11 / D- 6 -> 7
Helios S- 15 -> 16 / D- 12 -> 13, 15 -> 16
LONG TRAIN RUNNIN' (20th Anniversary Mix) D- 13 -> 12
ORCA D- 18 -> 17
Right Time Right Way D- 15 -> 14
Seta Para Cima↑↑ S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
Skywalking S- 10 -> 11, 14 -> 15 / D- 11 -> 12, 14 -> 15
Small Steps S- 7 -> 6, 10 -> 9
Splash Gold S- 16 -> 17
The Light S- 13 -> 12 / D- 13 -> 12
Toy Box Factory S- 14 -> 15 / D- 14 -> 15
1st
MAKE IT BETTER S- 12 -> 11
PARANOiA D- 11 -> 12
2nd
BRILLIANT 2U (Orchestra Groove) D- 9 -> 8
GENOM SCREAMS D- 12 -> 13
MAKE IT BETTER (So-REAL Mix) S- 10 -> 11
PARANOiA KCET ~clean mix~ D- 15 -> 14
PARANOiA MAX ~DIRTY MIX~ D- 11 -> 12
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME D- 8 -> 7
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME (Jazzy Groove) D- 11 -> 10
3rd
DROP THE BOMB D- 10 -> 11
LOVE THIS FEELIN’ D- 11 -> 12
4th
BABY BABY GIMME YOUR LOVE D- 9 -> 7
BURNIN’ THE FLOOR D- 12 -> 10
MY SUMMER LOVE S- 12 -> 11 / D- 12 -> 10
ORION.78(AMeuro-MIX) D- 9 -> 10
SUPER STAR S- 12 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE CLIMAX S- 12 -> 13
5th
サナ・モレッテ・ネ・エンテ S- 12 -> 11 / D- 12 -> 11
AFRONOVA PRIMEVAL S- 8 -> 10 / D- 9 -> 10, 13 -> 14
CAN'T STOP FALLIN' IN LOVE ~SPEED MIX~ S- 12 -> 13
STILL IN MY HEART D- 9 -> 10
MAX
exotic ethnic D- 7 -> 9
Let the beat hit em!(CLASSIC R&B STYLE) S- 10 -> 9 / D- 10 -> 9
MAX 300 S- 12 -> 13
MAX2
革命 D- 11 -> 12
AFRONOVA(FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX) S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
D2R D- 11 -> 12
DROP OUT(FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX) S- 12 -> 13
MY SUMMER LOVE(TOMMY'S SMILE MIX) S- 12 -> 11
Secret Rendez-vous D- 12 -> 11
EXTREME
蒼い衝動 ~for EXTREME~ S- 9 -> 10 / D- 6 -> 8, 11 -> 10
三毛猫ロック S- 11 -> 12
A S- 12 -> 13
Across the nightmare D- 13 -> 12
air D- 11 -> 10
bag S- 11 -> 10 / D- 12 -> 10
I'm gonna get you! S- 9 -> 10
Kiss me all night long D- 11 -> 10
♥Love²シュガ→♥ S- 8 -> 9
LOVE♥SHINE S- 9 -> 10
PARANOIA survivor MAX S- 11 -> 12
sync (EXTREME version) S- 9 -> 10
The legend of MAX S- 13 -> 12 / D- 12 -> 13
TRIP MACHINE survivor D- 12 -> 13
1998 S- 9 -> 10 / D- 9 -> 10
SuperNOVA
怒れる大きな白い馬 S- 11 -> 12 / D- 11 -> 12
月光蝶 S- 10 -> 11
BALLAD FOR YOU~想いの雨~ S- 11 -> 9 / D- 11 -> 9
Brazilian Anthem S- 12 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
cachaca S- 12 -> 11
CURUS S- 7 -> 6, 10 -> 11
DoLL D- 14 -> 13
Dragon Blade D- 11 -> 12
Flow D- 11 -> 12
HAPPY☆ANGEL D- 11 -> 12
KEEP ON MOVIN' ~DMX MIX~ D- 12 -> 11
LOGICAL DASH S- 11 -> 10
MAX 300 (Super-Max-Me Mix) S- 13 -> 14 / D- 9 -> 11, 12 -> 13, 15 -> 16
MIDNIGHT SPECIAL S- 10 -> 11
Mind Parasite S- 13 -> 12
No.13 D- 12 -> 13
PARANOiA-Respect- S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12-> 13
STARS☆☆☆(2nd NAOKI's style) D- 11 -> 10
Star Gate Heaven D- 11 -> 12
TIERRA BUENA D- 11 -> 10
TOMORROW S- 10 -> 11
TRUE♥LOVE S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
SuperNOVA2
Arrabbiata S- 11 -> 10
D2R (“FREEZE” Special) D- 13 -> 11
FIRE S- 11 -> 12
Freeway Shuffle D- 9 -> 10
L'amour et la liberté(Darwin & DJ Silver remix) S- 11 -> 12
Raspberry♥Heart(English version) S- 11 -> 10 / D- 12 -> 11
Shades of Grey S- 11 -> 9
STARS☆☆☆ (Re-tuned by HΛL) - DDR EDITION – S- 9 -> 10 / D- 10 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE PhoeniX S- 11 -> 12 / D- 12 -> 13
Unreal S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
X
革命(X-Special) S- 14 -> 13
AFRONOVA(X-Special) S- 13 -> 14
dazzle S- 10 -> 9 / D- 10 -> 9
Inspiration D- 9 -> 10
LOVING YOU (Epidemik remix) D- 7 -> 9
Malacca S- 10 -> 9, 13 -> 14 / D- 13 -> 14
on the bounce S- 16 -> 15
PARANOIA ETERNAL(X-Special) D- 13 -> 14
PARANOIA EVOLUTION(X-Special) D- 15 -> 16
S・A・G・A D- 10 -> 12
SABER WING D- 13 -> 14, 13 -> 14
SUPER SAMURAI S- 12 -> 13, D- 12 -> 13
Taj He Spitz D- 11 -> 10
Till the lonely’s gone S- 9 -> 10 / D- 9 -> 10
TimeHollow S- 10 -> 8
Trigger D- 11 -> 12
X2
All My Love D- 11 -> 10
Anti-Matter D- 11 -> 12
Crazy Control S- 9 -> 10
Decade D- 12 -> 11
Heatstroke D- 10 -> 11
in love wit you S- 8 -> 10 / D- 9 -> 10
roppongi EVOLVED ver.D S- 15 -> 16
Poseidon (kors k mix) S- 14 -> 13
POSSESSION S- 7 -> 8 / D- 17 -> 18
Sacred Oath D- 11 -> 12
sakura storm S- 10 -> 11 / D- 11 -> 10
Shiny World S- 14 -> 13
smooooch・∀・S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 12
Taking It To The Sky D- 8 -> 9
Valkyrie dimension S- 15 -> 14
Your Angel S- 10 -> 11
ZETA~素数の世界と超越者~ S- 11 -> 10
ΔMAX S- 3 -> 5, 5 -> 7, 17 -> 16 / D- 7 -> 9
X3 VS 2ndMix
アルストロメリア (walk with you remix) D- 12 -> 11, 13 -> 12
ビューティフル レシート D- 13 -> 12
CRAZY♥LOVE D- 15 -> 14
Find You Again D- 13 -> 12
FLOWER D- 9 -> 10
HEARTBREAK (Sound Selektaz remix) D- 11 -> 10
Let's Get Away D- 13 -> 12
LOVE IS THE POWER -Re:born- S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 12
Mermaid girl D- 12 -> 11
New York EVOLVED (Type B, Type C) D- 16 -> 15
PARANOiA Revolution S- 9 -> 11 / D- 14 -> 15
Seule S- 10 -> 9 / D- 10 -> 9
SigSig S- 12 -> 11
SILVER☆DREAM S- 11 -> 12
Something Special S- 11 -> 9 / D- 11 -> 10
TIME D- 9 -> 10
Tohoku EVOLVED D- 17 -> 18
tokyoEVOLVED (TYPE1, TYPE2, TYPE3) D- 16 -> 15
Tribe D- 10 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE EVOLUTION D- 9 -> 8
TWINKLE♡HEART S- 10 -> 11 / D- 11 -> 13
2013
お米の美味しい炊き方、そしてお米を食べることによるその効果。S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
晴天Bon Voyage D- 11 -> 12
創世ノート S- 13 -> 14
ちくわパフェだよ☆CKP S- 12 -> 11
からふるぱすてる S- 12 -> 13
虹色の花 D- 11 -> 12
フー・フローツS- 12 -> 13 / D- 9 -> 10
めうめうぺったんたん!! D- 15 -> 16
ACROSS WORLD S- 12 -> 11, 14 -> 15
Air Heroes D- 15 -> 16
Blew My Mind S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
Bombay Bomb D- 12 -> 13
Children of the Beat D- 10 -> 11
Elemental Creation D- 14 -> 15
Find The Way S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
GAIA D- 16 -> 17
Magnetic S- 17 -> 16
Monkey Business D- 16 -> 17
New Gravity S- 12 -> 11 / D- 12 -> 11
nightbird lost wing D- 14 -> 15
Qipchãq D- 11 -> 12
RЁVOLUTIΦN D- 17 -> 18
sola D- 12 -> 13
Spanish Snowy Dance S- 15 -> 16 / D- 11 -> 12, 16 -> 17
Starry HEAVEN S- 11 -> 9 / D- 11 -> 10
Straight Oath S- 11 -> 10
Synergy for Angels D- 10 -> 11
THE REASON S- 15 -> 16
Triple Journey -TAG EDITION- S- 16 -> 17
Wow Wow VENUS D- 12 -> 11
2014
漆黒のスペシャルプリンセスサンデー S- 13 -> 12
灼熱Beach Side Bunny S- 11 -> 12 / D- 15 -> 16
天空の華 S- 12 -> 11
ドーパミンD- 17 - > 18
夏色DIARY -DDR mix- S- 10 -> 11 / D- 15 -> 14
パ→ピ→プ→Yeah! S- 13 -> 12
バンブーソード・ガールD- 12 -> 13
ホメ猫☆センセーションS- 10 -> 9
マインド・ゲーム D- 15 -> 14
回レ!雪月花 D- 12 -> 11
ラクガキスト D- 13 -> 14
海神 D- 16 -> 15
Adularia S- 14 -> 13 / D- 13 -> 12
Cleopatrysm S- 15 -> 14 / D- 11 -> 10, 15 -> 14
Din Don Dan D- 10 -> 11
Dispersion Star D- 14 -> 13
Do The Evolution D- 13 -> 12
Engraved Mark S- 12 -> 11 / D- 13 -> 12
FUNKY SUMMER BEACH S- 14 -> 13
Go↓Go↑Girls&Boys! S- 11 -> 10
Idola D- 17 -> 18
IMANOGUILTS S- 15 -> 16 / D- 11 -> 12, 15 -> 16
MAX.(period) S- 12 -> 13
LoveLove DokiDoki D- 12 -> 13
Over The “Period” S- 8 -> 9, 15 -> 16 / D- 15 -> 16
Party Lights (Tommie Sunshine's Brooklyn Fire Remix) S- 11 -> 10
Remain D- 12 -> 13
Romancing Layer S- 11 -> 10
SABER WING (satellite silhouette remix) D- 14 -> 13
Sakura Mirage S- 14 -> 13
Samurai Shogun vs. Master Ninja S- 14 -> 15
Sand Blow D- 16 -> 15
Starlight Fantasia (Endorphins Mix) S- 15 -> 16 / D- 15 -> 16
starmine S- 15 -> 14
Stella Sinistra S- 15 -> 14
Summer fantasy (Darwin remix) S- 13 -> 12
SUPER HERO S- 12 -> 11
The Lonely Streets S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
Truare! S- 11 -> 12 / D- 11 -> 12
True Blue D- 16 -> 15
VEGA S- 14 -> 15 / D- 14 -> 15
8000000 S- 10 -> 9
A
ありふれたせかいせいふく S- 14 -> 13 / D- 14 -> 13
イーディーエム・ジャンパーズ D- 11 -> 12
きゅん×きゅんばっきゅん☆LOVE S- 11 -> 10 / D- 11 -> 12
君氏危うくも近うよれ S- 12 -> 11 / D- 13 -> 12
恋のパズルマジックS- 11 -> 10
春風ブロ―インウィンド D- 14 -> 15
宇宙(ソラ)への片道切符 S- 13 -> 12
チルノのパーフェクトさんすう教室(EDM REMIX) S- 13 -> 14 / D- 13 -> 14
ナイト・オブ・ナイツ D- 15 -> 14
輪廻転生S- 13 -> 14 / D- 13 -> 14
恋愛観測 D- 12 -> 13
ALGORITHM S- 10 -> 11
Astrogazer D- 12 -> 11
Be a Hero! S- 9 -> 10
Boss Rush S- 14 -> 15 / D- 14 -> 15
Electric Dance System Music D- 10 -> 11
Eternal Summer S- 6 -> 7 / D- 6 -> 7
Far east nightbird kors k Remix -DDR edit ver- S- 7 -> 6 / D- 11 -> 10
Happy S- 9 -> 8, 12 -> 11 / D- 13 -> 12
Hillbilly Shoes S- 13 -> 12
I Want You To Know S- 11 -> 10
Life is beautiful S- 16 -> 15
Love You More S- 12 -> 13
MAX 360 S- 12 -> 13, 15 -> 16 / D- 12 -> 13
Neutrino D- 16 -> 17
out of focus S- 12 -> 11 / D- 12 -> 11
Poochie D- 15 -> 16
POSSESSION (20th Anniversary Mix) S- 16 -> 17
Puberty Dysthymia D- 13 -> 14
Rejoin D- 13 -> 14
Sakura Reflection S- 15 -> 14
Sephirot D- 13 -> 12
SHION D- 10 -> 11
The Night Away (MK Remix) S- 12 -> 11
Time Of Our Lives S- 11 -> 10
Towards the TOWER D- 12 -> 13
A20
腐れ外道とチョコレゐト S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 14
ベビーステップ S- 12 -> 13 / D- 12 -> 13
未来(ダ)FUTURE S- 15 -> 14 / D- 15 -> 14
妄想感傷代償連盟 S- 12 -> 11
Avenger D- 17 -> 18
CARTOON HEROES (20th Anniversary Mix) D- 12 -> 13
Dead Heat D- 14 -> 13
Drop The Bounce S- 14 -> 15
HAVE YOU NEVER BEEN MELLOW (20th Anniversary Mix) S- 6 -> 7, 10 -> 11 / D- 6 -> 7
Helios S- 15 -> 16 / D- 12 -> 13, 15 -> 16
LONG TRAIN RUNNIN' (20th Anniversary Mix) D- 13 -> 12
ORCA D- 18 -> 17
Right Time Right Way D- 15 -> 14
Seta Para Cima↑↑ S- 10 -> 11 / D- 10 -> 11
Skywalking S- 10 -> 11, 14 -> 15 / D- 11 -> 12, 14 -> 15
Small Steps S- 7 -> 6, 10 -> 9
Splash Gold S- 16 -> 17
The Light S- 13 -> 12 / D- 13 -> 12
Toy Box Factory S- 14 -> 15 / D- 14 -> 15
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Quite an extensive list. Only one that I can think of off the top of my head that I would add is: TOMORROW by nc ft. Dreamscanner S- 10 ->11 from DDR SN
Post #155 · Publicado en 2019-08-14 05:40:36pm Hace 5.1 años
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Strange how that one never raised any flags for me, I guess I agree with you on that one though. I'll add it.
Post #156 · Publicado en 2019-09-30 02:16:16am Hace 4.9 años
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Pluto S- 16 -> 15, even understanding that it's hell to score on.
I understand why it's rated that high, but if there weren't all those stops and bpm changes, there's 14s that are harder imo. I say this mainly because it seems really silly that I now have the ability to claim I've cleared a 16 even though every 15 I've played so far has been a lot harder to clear.
I understand why it's rated that high, but if there weren't all those stops and bpm changes, there's 14s that are harder imo. I say this mainly because it seems really silly that I now have the ability to claim I've cleared a 16 even though every 15 I've played so far has been a lot harder to clear.
Post #157 · Publicado en 2019-09-30 03:28:51pm Hace 4.9 años
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It's been a while since hnkul posted this list, but I wanted to take this opportunity to look at his rerates and say my thoughts on them.
These are my objections or reservations (since I don't know doubles well, they'll mostly be singles):
A
- Boss Rush DSP 14-15: I think you're overestimating how hard this chart is. The 8th crossovers streams should be trivial to doublestep and there are similar or harder sequences in 14s (e.g. Nephilim). There's a reason lots of people go for New Century DSP as a first pass or PFC. The 16ths in here aren't flanked by jumps like they are in Sakura Reflection, nor is any section particularly dense enough to serve as an egregious choke point. While the slowdown is hard, only the first half is really difficult and doesn't last more than 4 measures at 95BPM until a looser section that allows for gauge-building comes. I can't speak for DDP since I haven't played it
- Sakura Reflection ESP 15-14: See what I said previously. Most of Sakura Reflection's difficulty (imo) stems from the use of 16ths close to jumps, which Boss Rush doesn't have. It also places its 'big stream' at the end after such sections, compared to Boss Rush's more lenient sequences.
2014
- Adularia ESP 14-13: I think this is fine as an entry level 14. The 16th bursts can be hard to get down, especially as they're clustered closely at the song's climax. However, as the stamina requirement is very low, I can see this being firmly 13 level for many people who are proficient at footspeed. I think that any 16th streams you see at this speed in 13s are either laid out like trills or spaced out more (e.g. Dispersion Star).
- Cleopatrysm ESP 15-14: I think this is similarly fine as an entry 15. It's incredibly easy, but there are other candidates I'd put down before this. 190 is a dicey BPM for many (including me), and I can see people tripping up from the awkwardness of this chart paired with the bursts.
- FUNKY SUMMER BEACH ESP 14-13: I wouldn't underestimate the gallops and burst sections here (you yourself know someone that would've struggled with this chart quite a lot a while ago lol). If I were dropping this down, I might honestly consider dropping down PUNISHER and Mind Game too while I'm at it.
- Sakura Mirage ESP 14-13: The jacks and constant pace of crossovers that take you back and forth and back again make this a chart that's hard to recover from once you trip up imo. Compared to Hyena (another 14), it trades the drills for harder patterning and a slightly higher speed. I think this should stay in the 14 zone.
2013
- THE REASON 15-16: This chart is disgustingly vile, but I wouldn't rate it a 16. The stepjump patterns aren't *sustained* here in any form - all of the clusters and bursts are contained within relatively short sections, which allows for recovery and for them to be hit more easily. I think this separates it from other jump-heavy 16s.
I can't comment as well on earlier charts as I don't know them as well.
I would like to add a few rerates hnkul didn't include (again, mostly in newer releases and singles) though:
A20
- No Tears Left To Cry ESP 10-11
- Something Just Like This (Alesso Remix) ESP 10-11
- Procyon ESP 15-14
- Cartoon Heroes 20th Anniversary DSP 14-13 (Yes, I think the original ESP is a 14)
- New Era EDP 17-16
The following is newer content released after he made the list
- Chaos Terror Tech Mix CDP 17-18
- Six String Proof ESP 15-14
A
- Night of Knights CSP 16-17
- Rinne Tensei CSP/CDP 16-17
- All My Heart ESP 13-12
- Neutrino DSP 12-13
- Sennen no Kotowari ESP 12-11
- Chaos Terror Tech Mix ESP 16-15 (although this may be borderline)
2014
- Beach Side Bunny ESP 15-16
- Awaodori ESP 14-15
2013
- Summer Fairytale CSP 14-13
- Air Heroes CSP 17-18
X3
- Tribe CSP 13-14
Also, Pluto should definitely stay a 16. The steps are technical and dense enough that I think it qualifies as a 16 all things considered.
These are my objections or reservations (since I don't know doubles well, they'll mostly be singles):
A
- Boss Rush DSP 14-15: I think you're overestimating how hard this chart is. The 8th crossovers streams should be trivial to doublestep and there are similar or harder sequences in 14s (e.g. Nephilim). There's a reason lots of people go for New Century DSP as a first pass or PFC. The 16ths in here aren't flanked by jumps like they are in Sakura Reflection, nor is any section particularly dense enough to serve as an egregious choke point. While the slowdown is hard, only the first half is really difficult and doesn't last more than 4 measures at 95BPM until a looser section that allows for gauge-building comes. I can't speak for DDP since I haven't played it
- Sakura Reflection ESP 15-14: See what I said previously. Most of Sakura Reflection's difficulty (imo) stems from the use of 16ths close to jumps, which Boss Rush doesn't have. It also places its 'big stream' at the end after such sections, compared to Boss Rush's more lenient sequences.
2014
- Adularia ESP 14-13: I think this is fine as an entry level 14. The 16th bursts can be hard to get down, especially as they're clustered closely at the song's climax. However, as the stamina requirement is very low, I can see this being firmly 13 level for many people who are proficient at footspeed. I think that any 16th streams you see at this speed in 13s are either laid out like trills or spaced out more (e.g. Dispersion Star).
- Cleopatrysm ESP 15-14: I think this is similarly fine as an entry 15. It's incredibly easy, but there are other candidates I'd put down before this. 190 is a dicey BPM for many (including me), and I can see people tripping up from the awkwardness of this chart paired with the bursts.
- FUNKY SUMMER BEACH ESP 14-13: I wouldn't underestimate the gallops and burst sections here (you yourself know someone that would've struggled with this chart quite a lot a while ago lol). If I were dropping this down, I might honestly consider dropping down PUNISHER and Mind Game too while I'm at it.
- Sakura Mirage ESP 14-13: The jacks and constant pace of crossovers that take you back and forth and back again make this a chart that's hard to recover from once you trip up imo. Compared to Hyena (another 14), it trades the drills for harder patterning and a slightly higher speed. I think this should stay in the 14 zone.
2013
- THE REASON 15-16: This chart is disgustingly vile, but I wouldn't rate it a 16. The stepjump patterns aren't *sustained* here in any form - all of the clusters and bursts are contained within relatively short sections, which allows for recovery and for them to be hit more easily. I think this separates it from other jump-heavy 16s.
I can't comment as well on earlier charts as I don't know them as well.
I would like to add a few rerates hnkul didn't include (again, mostly in newer releases and singles) though:
A20
- No Tears Left To Cry ESP 10-11
- Something Just Like This (Alesso Remix) ESP 10-11
- Procyon ESP 15-14
- Cartoon Heroes 20th Anniversary DSP 14-13 (Yes, I think the original ESP is a 14)
- New Era EDP 17-16
The following is newer content released after he made the list
- Chaos Terror Tech Mix CDP 17-18
- Six String Proof ESP 15-14
A
- Night of Knights CSP 16-17
- Rinne Tensei CSP/CDP 16-17
- All My Heart ESP 13-12
- Neutrino DSP 12-13
- Sennen no Kotowari ESP 12-11
- Chaos Terror Tech Mix ESP 16-15 (although this may be borderline)
2014
- Beach Side Bunny ESP 15-16
- Awaodori ESP 14-15
2013
- Summer Fairytale CSP 14-13
- Air Heroes CSP 17-18
X3
- Tribe CSP 13-14
Also, Pluto should definitely stay a 16. The steps are technical and dense enough that I think it qualifies as a 16 all things considered.
Post #158 · Publicado en 2019-09-30 06:31:06pm Hace 4.9 años
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Quote: talkion
Also, Pluto should definitely stay a 16. The steps are technical and dense enough that I think it qualifies as a 16 all things considered.
I feel like the technical patterns in Pluto are too infrequent to push it all the way to a 16. Arrabbiata has similarly difficult patterns but at a consistent high speed of 225 BPM (although Pluto's spins at the end are slightly faster) and keeps those crossovers and spins going throughout almost the entire song and it's rated a 15.Post #159 · Publicado en 2019-09-30 07:07:36pm Hace 4.9 años
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Pluto and Chaos Terror Tech are 16s for the BPM changes. Without them they would be 15s. The ratings are the most helpful for players who have never played the songs before and need an idea of what they're getting themselves into, therefore songs with lots of gimmicks should be rated a bit higher, as there's no way to see them coming the first time.
Post #160 · Publicado en 2019-09-30 07:19:25pm Hace 4.9 años
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Quote: talkion
Awaodori ESP 14->15
Why do you think it should be a 15? It does not have any of the qualities to be such a high rating. It's not overly draining, has hard movement, or anything that would throw off a player who just started passing mid 14's.
Awaodori IMO belongs to a large list of charts that are hard 14's, but not quite a 15, but these charts have been misrated into 15's. These are:
PARANOiA KCET CSP & CDP 15 -> 14
Electronic and Treat! ESP 15 -> 14
Sakura Reflection ESP 15 -> 14
Six String Proof ESP 15 -> 14
Samurai Shogun vs. Master Ninja EDP 15 -> 14
Drop The Bounce EDP 15 -> 14
Valkyrie dimension DSP 15 -> 14
IMHO the easiest a 15 should be is PARANOiA survivor ESP.
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Pluto CSP 16 -> 15
Should stay a 16 IMO. It does compete against some other easier 16's such as Life is beautiful, POSSESSION Live Mix and CHAOS Terror Tech Mix ESP (which I do agree with talkion might be a 15).
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THE REASON 15 -> 16
Should become a 16, but barely so -- the entire last quarter of the chart, from the weird green notes until the ending including the 16th jumps, push it above what should be a 15.
and here is some other stuff I noticed while playing, including lower level doubles:
Dance Celebration (System7 Remix) DDP 8 -> 9
Silver Platform -I wanna get your heart- ESP 11 -> 12, EDP 11 -> 12
BALLAD FOR YOU DSP 9 -> 7, ESP 11 -> 9, DDP 9 -> 8, EDP 11 -> 10
Dragon Blade EDP 11 -> 12
iFUTURELIST ESP 12 -> 11
Mind Parasite ESP 13 -> 12, DDP 8 -> 7