Post #121 · Posté à 2019-03-22 08:17:20pm il y a 5.2 années
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CHAOS Terror Tech Mix
could be a 15 imo. Once you learn the stops, it's not that complex or draining.
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I agree, singles is extremely easy for a 16
Post #122 · Posté à 2019-03-22 09:01:52pm il y a 5.2 années
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Still surprised Sakura
is a 13 instead of a 14.
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Yeah, Sakura is not near a 13, 14 for sure
What, because it goes fast? It's not any harder than something like Illegal Function Call or HEART BEAT FORMULA, two songs that also go fast and are upper 13s.
In terms of timing, Sakura is a 14
Post #123 · Posté à 2019-03-22 09:23:11pm il y a 5.2 années
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Still surprised Sakura
is a 13 instead of a 14.
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Yeah, Sakura is not near a 13, 14 for sure
What, because it goes fast? It's not any harder than something like Illegal Function Call or HEART BEAT FORMULA, two songs that also go fast and are upper 13s.
In terms of timing, Sakura is a 14
In tems of difficult, Sakura is way harder than all of the other 13s, singles and doubles (the 13s that aren't misrated)
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Post #124 · Posté à 2019-03-22 10:43:54pm il y a 5.2 années
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Post #125 · Posté à 2019-03-22 11:55:55pm il y a 5.2 années
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I can't wait for Cartoon Heroes to be added as a 15 to end the debates forever.
Post #126 · Posté à 2019-03-23 02:29:29am il y a 5.2 années
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I can't wait for Cartoon Heroes to be added as a 15 to end the debates forever.
The easiest and lamest 15 of all time lol
Post #127 · Posté à 2019-03-23 10:29:25am il y a 5.2 années
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For the debate on SAKURA, it's honestly not that hard for a 13. Sure there are way easier 13s, but there's definitely harder ones too. Personally I've found Xenon
, DROP OUT
, V
, and Illegal Function Call
to be far more difficult than SAKURA, and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head. There'd have to be a lot of 13s bumped up to 14 if SAKURA got bumped up imo.
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Post #128 · Posté à 2019-03-23 02:54:02pm il y a 5.2 années
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Xenon and Drop Out harder than Sakura? Lmao. V
needs to be rerated as a 14 on doubles. Illegal Function Call
is a 14 at some points, so i'm ok with that
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Post #129 · Posté à 2019-03-23 03:43:20pm il y a 5.2 années
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Is this based on pad playing experience or nothing equivalent to it
Post #130 · Posté à 2019-03-23 04:08:09pm il y a 5.2 années
Based on the fact that at least i've pfcd all these songs named before on arcade (except for V oni doubles)
Post #131 · Posté à 2019-03-23 07:40:52pm il y a 5.2 années
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Quote: Vito
Xenon and Drop Out harder than Sakura? Lmao. V
needs to be rerated as a 14 on doubles. Illegal Function Call
is a 14 at some points, so i'm ok with that
I'm talking about singles (maybe should have specified), so if you're thinking of all of those relative to doubles I have honestly no clue about anything harder than PARANOiA D-![Challenge](../emoticons/icon_challenge.gif)
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SAKURA is harder to time (especially during the slowdown) but as for just clearing (which is what I assume the ratings are mostly based on but idk) I find that the hard parts are spaced out enough that it's not a very tiring song compared to the other ones I mentioned.
Post #132 · Posté à 2019-03-24 06:00:15am il y a 5.2 années
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I don’t believe 桜 S-
is significantly more difficult to pass than 無頼ック自己ライザー S-
, there is no way to make it 14.
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Post #133 · Posté à 2019-03-25 03:56:43am il y a 5.2 années
Sup nerds.
RISING FIRE HAWK
15 -> 14
Pretty self explanatory. This is just an easier EoT and if you think this isn't valuable as a 14 look at Samurai Shogun vs Master Ninja / Cytokinesis.
siberite
13 -> 14
This one is a little harder than the competition it has in the same category. Idc if it's a slower song the song is not fun to play on. Pretty much on par with Electronic Dance System Music which got bumped up due to the very same reasons I would say siberite needs to be bumped up.
Vanquish The Ghost
16 -> 15
Yeah it's a little hard but it's not a 16. Since Engraved Mark / Astrogazer got bumped down this is almost exactly on par with those two and really should have stayed where it was to begin with.
CHAOS Terror-Tech Mix
16 -> 15
The gimmick has worn off. Now for it to be ranked properly.
Poochie
16 -> 17
Yes. It is that fucking difficult and those trills are REALLY brutal even for a 16. I cannot give it the same category as like POSSESSION / Boss Rush / Life is Beautiful when it has some awful trills and crossovers. Nah dawg.
EDIT: I guess after re-loading the chart it is just idk. It is BARELY a 16 due to how most of the chart itself is somewhat simple but man is it a burtal as fuck 16.
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Pretty self explanatory. This is just an easier EoT and if you think this isn't valuable as a 14 look at Samurai Shogun vs Master Ninja / Cytokinesis.
siberite
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This one is a little harder than the competition it has in the same category. Idc if it's a slower song the song is not fun to play on. Pretty much on par with Electronic Dance System Music which got bumped up due to the very same reasons I would say siberite needs to be bumped up.
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Yeah it's a little hard but it's not a 16. Since Engraved Mark / Astrogazer got bumped down this is almost exactly on par with those two and really should have stayed where it was to begin with.
CHAOS Terror-Tech Mix
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The gimmick has worn off. Now for it to be ranked properly.
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Yes. It is that fucking difficult and those trills are REALLY brutal even for a 16. I cannot give it the same category as like POSSESSION / Boss Rush / Life is Beautiful when it has some awful trills and crossovers. Nah dawg.
EDIT: I guess after re-loading the chart it is just idk. It is BARELY a 16 due to how most of the chart itself is somewhat simple but man is it a burtal as fuck 16.
Post #134 · Posté à 2019-03-25 07:05:25pm il y a 5.2 années
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Quote: Vito
Xenon and Drop Out harder than Sakura? Lmao. V
needs to be rerated as a 14 on doubles. Illegal Function Call
is a 14 at some points, so i'm ok with that
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Speaking on clearing vs scoring (and singles on pad), Drop Out is just as difficult as Sakura
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Post #135 · Posté à 2019-04-19 01:36:43am il y a 5.1 années
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Egoism 440 D-
19--> 20
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Most important one tbh because I can't imagine how the fuck a singles 20 could come anywhere close
Also I think L'Amour
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Post #136 · Posté à 2019-04-19 05:34:38am il y a 5.1 années
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I understand the thought behind CHAOS Terror Tech Mix
being rerated a 15, but a lot of it/the whole is based on "well once you memorize it". Therein lies the issue, which is that ratings shouldn't rely on memorizing the gimmicks and then removing entire elements of the chart/song to artificially manipulate the rating so that it benefits the people who know but greatly puts those that don't at a disadvantage.
Like, Pluto
never stops being a 16 just because you know the gimmicks, it will always be a 16 because for someone playing it the first time or someone that doesn't remember the stops/bpm changes, it is as hard or harder than a handful of 16s. As for someone that's played it 50 times and learned it? A 15 without question, but it's not getting rerated because they played it 50 times and learned it.
also sakura is a 13, that doesn't change even if you're sightreading it :V
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Like, Pluto
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also sakura is a 13, that doesn't change even if you're sightreading it :V
Post #137 · Posté à 2019-04-20 07:33:31pm il y a 5.1 années
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I understand the thought behind CHAOS Terror Tech Mix
being rerated a 15, but a lot of it/the whole is based on "well once you memorize it". Therein lies the issue, which is that ratings shouldn't rely on memorizing the gimmicks and then removing entire elements of the chart/song to artificially manipulate the rating so that it benefits the people who know but greatly puts those that don't at a disadvantage.
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That's exactly why Bag was a 10 on the old scale
Post #138 · Posté à 2019-04-20 10:53:14pm il y a 5.1 années
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Trigger
should be a 17.
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I'm not quite sure how you came to this conclusion, but I think it's fine as an easier 18.
Post #139 · Posté à 2019-04-22 02:18:43pm il y a 5.1 années
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y is love love sugar still an 9
Post #140 · Posté à 2019-04-22 03:02:13pm il y a 5.1 années
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I thought it was an 8.