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Post #181 · Posted at 2009-11-18 12:40:23pm 14.4 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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Crazy Control still feels a little early, anyone agree?
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Post #182 · Posted at 2009-11-18 04:02:45pm 14.4 years ago

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I tried it, I thought it was on sync pretty much.

Post #183 · Posted at 2009-11-19 10:54:43pm 14.4 years ago

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I notice you only work for the songs not the COURSES
DDR THE ULTIMATE VERSION (System Only Songs & official with some modification/variation)
DDR Missing Arcade/Home Version Songs & Official Steps
DDR Official Step Variations (No Duplication. All step variations in one song simfile)
For more details and other graphics variation check this thread:
DDR Graphics Variation & For Non-256x80 conversions
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Post #184 · Posted at 2009-11-20 01:34:01am 14.4 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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Yeah, well, courses are easy enough for players to make themselves anyways.

Post #185 · Posted at 2009-11-22 04:39:13am 14.4 years ago

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Speaking of courses, know of anywhere where I could find banners for them?

Post #186 · Posted at 2009-11-22 04:47:25am 14.4 years ago

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Post #187 · Posted at 2009-11-26 03:19:33pm 14.4 years ago

Offline neothe0ne
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Quote: Terra (Red)
al2k4 I know I talked to you on aim about this. But I've noticed a few more things since. I tried the default 3.9 theme and it works fine like you said. But SM MAX2 works just fine as well.

However both the DDR X themes and the SN2 themes have the same exact problem. Is there anyway to fix this? I know you where saying some themes ignore a negative value video start. And is there anyway to fix this on the themes? I'm going to assume for now that the SN theme has the same problem too. So at least for sure all the video starts for the X2 simfiles will be off on the X and SN2 themes. I think it's like a half second too.

I actually investigated this for all of us.

If you go into SN2's metrics.ini file and change "MinimumDelay" from 0 to 3.9's default of 3 seconds, it does nothing to the videos. Even if you replace the metrics.ini of the SuperNOVA 2 theme with the 3.9(+) default, you'll notice that the video start times are still unaffected.

Thus, I immediately moved on to BGAnimations. The culprit appears to be \BGAnimations\ScreenGameplay in\. If you change that BGAnimations.ini to take 3 seconds (3.9's default value is 2) instead of SN2's value of 0.682, "Let's Get It Started" (which has a video offset of more than -4......) is considerably less off-sync.

Basically what this means?

Negative video start times are WRONG, and I believe the sm files and/or m3ps should be re-done/re-encoded so this can be fixed.

(disclaimer: I have no knowledge of theming, but I'm not inclined to believe the theme was written wrong versus the sm file's bganimations being written wrong)

Post #188 · Posted at 2009-11-26 04:26:30pm 14.4 years ago

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Hahaha, I spent a bit of time just pushing the start times a few measures back so the video will start properly on the themes I use.

Post #189 · Posted at 2009-11-26 09:38:43pm 14.4 years ago

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neothe0ne, it would mean sacrificing the effect on how they would appear in-game for compatibility with StepMania.

I don't know, but I don't feel like uploading over half a gig again.

Post #190 · Posted at 2009-12-02 02:51:16am 14.4 years ago

Offline King of Light
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On Heatstroke double standard and challenge, there is a pseudo-hand on the first beat of measure 52, one of the freezes needs to be moved up.
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Post #191 · Posted at 2009-12-02 03:03:49am 14.4 years ago

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Quote: King of Light
On Heatstroke double standard and challenge, there is a pseudo-hand on the first beat of measure 52, one of the freezes needs to be moved up.

tee-hee thanks for spotting that! Laughing Out Loud

sent the fixed sm file to alan.

Post #192 · Posted at 2009-12-02 03:42:06am 14.4 years ago

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No problem Smile
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Post #193 · Posted at 2009-12-05 09:05:15pm 14.4 years ago

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Quote: Arctic Wolves
Crazy Control still feels a little early, anyone agree?

I played it, and as the song went along, the song got more and more out of sync.Confused It may be a bpm problem?

Post #194 · Posted at 2009-12-13 12:44:44pm 14.3 years ago

Offline hellrazor
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Why is the Sample Length in roppongi EVOLVED ver. C 12.000 seconds, when in every other song it's 15.000 including roppongi EVOLVED ver. B and A.

Also is the pack ready for final sync yet, I just downloaded it yesterday since there have been no changes in some time (I assume the steps are all finished now).

Post #195 · Posted at 2009-12-13 04:27:06pm 14.3 years ago

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Quote: hellrazor
Why is the Sample Length in roppongi EVOLVED ver. C 12.000 seconds, when in every other song it's 15.000 including roppongi EVOLVED ver. B and A.

sent the fixed sm file to alan.

Post #196 · Posted at 2009-12-13 09:00:38pm 14.3 years ago

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Sync check was done ages ago, anything after is just pure fixes.

Post #197 · Posted at 2009-12-14 04:23:16am 14.3 years ago

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Quote: al2k4
Sync check was done ages ago, anything after is just pure fixes.
You mean Pluto's sync was checked and accepted?

Post #198 · Posted at 2009-12-14 04:33:51am 14.3 years ago

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Yep.

Post #199 · Posted at 2009-12-14 05:20:31am 14.3 years ago

Offline hellrazor
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Quote: al2k4
Yep.
Well it sucks bad, I thought it was a very rough sync.

Anyways I'll post fixes as I find errors, so far I've tried the first song only and the BPM was considerably off, I suggest changing the sync to:

#MUSIC:A Brighter Day.mp3;
#OFFSET:0.191;
#BPMS:0=155.046;

As always, my offsets are based off the StepMania 4.0 synching standard. The big here was the BPM was too slow.

Post #200 · Posted at 2009-12-14 05:46:45am 14.3 years ago

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Quote: hellrazor
Quote: al2k4
Yep.
Well it sucks bad, I thought it was a very rough sync.

Anyways I'll post fixes as I find errors, so far I've tried the first song only and the BPM was considerably off, I suggest changing the sync to:

#MUSIC:A Brighter Day.mp3;
#OFFSET:0.191;
#BPMS:0=155.046;

As always, my offsets are based off the StepMania 4.0 synching standard. The big here was the BPM was too slow.

Please take into consideration that some of us still use stepmania 3.9 and 3.9+ I thought the sync was fine.
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