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Post #61 · Posted at 2012-02-27 03:32:17am 12 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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I honestly don't remember like anything from War Games.

The guidance point might be more valid on a lengthy tournament like the Summer Contest, but for a tournament with 5 rounds, will it really be an issue? I feel like if people see that someone is consistently making DDR edits or doing songs by the same artist, it would tend to effect them negatively in terms of votes anyways,

Post #62 · Posted at 2012-02-27 03:38:01am 12 years ago

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Except take a look at the track record for the Summer Tournaments and see how many people participate in the first round vs the last round.

You honestly think that's related to the presence of themes and not just that most people didn't see the contest all the way through (myself included)?

I think it plays a part. I know that for myself, I often saw a theme I didn't like or knew I would have a hard time finding a song for and decided to skip the week, only to completely forget about the contest for several weeks after. There's always expected fallout from these tournaments considering the length, but I think it could be lessened.
I think the reason why SC seems to die out near the end is school is starting up and people have other things to do and no time to make a file. This is why this years Summer Contest will likely end early August appose to late August.

I understand Pie's point of having all free week, but I did all free week for War Games and was told by many that it made it boring. I like the idea of adding some new themes along with some old ones.

The point of the contests is who is the best simfile artists and bring in new simfile artists to ZIv. Can you call someone the best simfile artists if he just did DDR Edits? Also the themes can make the simfile artist hit new grounds. Some new artists might go "Oh wow making that J-Pop file was fun! I should make more!".

Post #63 · Posted at 2012-02-27 03:38:38am 12 years ago

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Post #64 · Posted at 2012-02-27 03:43:15am 12 years ago

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Obviously it's up to the official organizer(s), I'm just giving my personal opinion.

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Post #65 · Posted at 2012-02-27 04:00:23am 12 years ago

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Post #66 · Posted at 2012-02-27 04:11:31am 12 years ago

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Post #67 · Posted at 2012-02-27 06:43:34am 12 years ago

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Post #68 · Posted at 2012-02-27 09:35:46am 12 years ago

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Post #69 · Posted at 2012-02-27 12:30:10pm 12 years ago

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How about you don't announce the theme for the week, and whoever's simfile falls under theme after it is revealed, gets one extra point?

I think it would make for a nice Russian roulette.

Post #70 · Posted at 2012-02-27 12:33:20pm 12 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
Make the theme optional. Every week is free week but if you adhere to the special rules you get a five-point bump.

Post #71 · Posted at 2012-02-27 12:37:54pm 12 years ago

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Make the theme optional. Every week is free week but if you adhere to the special rules you get a five-point bump.

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Post #72 · Posted at 2012-02-27 12:45:52pm 12 years ago

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Five points is too much, especially when you consider the possibility that no will participate in any given week.

Post #73 · Posted at 2012-02-27 12:48:17pm 12 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
*shrugs* Just a thought. One single point isn't likely to change the ranking regardless the combination of valid/invalid entries.

Post #74 · Posted at 2012-02-27 01:53:24pm 12 years ago

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I think that there should be no themes, but if there are themes they should be simple like Licensed Music, BEMANI, DDR Edit, etc.
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Post #75 · Posted at 2012-02-27 11:05:17pm 12 years ago

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Post #76 · Posted at 2012-02-27 11:18:04pm 12 years ago

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Post #77 · Posted at 2012-02-27 11:18:49pm 12 years ago

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Post #78 · Posted at 2012-02-27 11:57:02pm 12 years ago

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On the topic of new themes I have a good theme we could do:

KONAMI Step Artist - We all pretty much assume that Konami picks the songs them will give a rating to a song before the chart is made (or it seems that way sometimes). Create a pool of songs and then the contestants are randomly assigned one of the songs from the pool. The pool includes step ratings (reasonable) to adhere to. Here me out: I told people at my local arcade, give me a song you want to see an edit of and a rating. They gave me polyrythm - 12 (X-scale). My first edit of only turned out to be a 10. I tweaked it, 11, scrapped it and did it again: 12. The judging could be how well you adhered to the rating. It would be basically like judging Konami charts, we see the rating before the chart then decide if the chart was fun and if it matched the rating.

Post #79 · Posted at 2012-02-27 11:58:05pm 12 years ago

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That sounds good.

Post #80 · Posted at 2012-02-28 01:34:08am 12 years ago

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I thought it would be interesting to have a tournament like this:

1st round: Make a 7 on Heavy
2nd round: Make an 8
3rd round: Make a 9
4th round: Make a 10

The song can be whatever, but it has to be the specified difficulty.

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