Post #1 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 06:11:01am Hace 12.9 años
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I know ITG ratings are supposed to be the same as DDR ratings, but with 11+ in ITG and the X scale in DDR I was wondering about some songs recently.
10
FELM
Paranoia Hades
Pluto
ΔMax /
Possession
Anti-Matter
New Decade
11
Faxx /
Pluto Relinquish
VD
Anti-Matter
Mei
Possession
New Decade
12
Paranoia Hades
Pluto Relinquish
FELM
13
VD
Possession D-
10
FELM
Paranoia Hades
Pluto
ΔMax /
Possession
Anti-Matter
New Decade
11
Faxx /
Pluto Relinquish
VD
Anti-Matter
Mei
Possession
New Decade
12
Paranoia Hades
Pluto Relinquish
FELM
13
VD
Possession D-
Post #2 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 06:12:59am Hace 12.9 años
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There is no way those songs are ITG 10's.
Post #3 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 07:12:16am Hace 12.9 años
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The general rule with ITG ratings is they're slightly lower than their equivalent DDR ratings; as far as officials go:
ITG 9 = between 7-9 on DDR
ITG 10 = high DDR 9 and low DDR 10 (ie Sakura)
ITG 11 = mid/high DDR 10
ITG 12 = high DDR 10
ITG 13 = 19s on the DDRX scale
Thus:
Felm Expert = 12
Hades Expert = 11
Hades Challenge = solid 12
Deltamax Expert = 10, Challenge = 11/12
Antimatter Expert = 11, Challenge 12
New Decade Challenge = 12/low 13
VD Challenge = mid 13
Arrabbiata = 10
Faxx Expert = 12, Challenge = 13
Roppongi A = 10
Roppongi D = 11/low 12
Fire Fire = 10
VD Beginner = ITG 8
Captivate Chikai = 9
Relinquish Challenge = 13
Pluto The First = 11
Uranus Challenge = 9
Chaos Challenge = 11
PSMO = 12
Max 300 = 11
IMO
ITG 9 = between 7-9 on DDR
ITG 10 = high DDR 9 and low DDR 10 (ie Sakura)
ITG 11 = mid/high DDR 10
ITG 12 = high DDR 10
ITG 13 = 19s on the DDRX scale
Thus:
Felm Expert = 12
Hades Expert = 11
Hades Challenge = solid 12
Deltamax Expert = 10, Challenge = 11/12
Antimatter Expert = 11, Challenge 12
New Decade Challenge = 12/low 13
VD Challenge = mid 13
Arrabbiata = 10
Faxx Expert = 12, Challenge = 13
Roppongi A = 10
Roppongi D = 11/low 12
Fire Fire = 10
VD Beginner = ITG 8
Captivate Chikai = 9
Relinquish Challenge = 13
Pluto The First = 11
Uranus Challenge = 9
Chaos Challenge = 11
PSMO = 12
Max 300 = 11
IMO
Post #4 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 07:24:21am Hace 12.9 años
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I thought ITG went up to 15 these days.
A single digit difference between PARANOiA survivor MAX Challenge and Valkyrie Dimension Challenge? No sir.
A single digit difference between PARANOiA survivor MAX Challenge and Valkyrie Dimension Challenge? No sir.
Post #5 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 07:24:55am Hace 12.9 años
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NO SONG hits the 12 range until FmaxX . Hell the only 11 pre-SN1 would be PSMO.
Post #6 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 07:30:10am Hace 12.9 años
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So Deep = 10 (could pass off as a high ITG 9 though, the song is really easy)
Maria (I Believe) Doubles = 10 (SLIGHTLY harder than Kimono Princess Doubles Difficult)
Surrender Your Love Doubles = 9 (best chart in SuperNOVA, full stop)
Flash In The Night = 9
God of Romance = 10
Bloodrush would like a word with you.
Saying that, I find PSMO harder than Delirium purely from the turns (Straight runs at 163bpm is not much of an issue, turns at 290 (145) are a lot more draining).
I will say though that VD wanders into 14 territory, it's a lot harder than Vertex^2.
So Deep = 10 (could pass off as a high ITG 9 though, the song is really easy)
Maria (I Believe) Doubles = 10 (SLIGHTLY harder than Kimono Princess Doubles Difficult)
Surrender Your Love Doubles = 9 (best chart in SuperNOVA, full stop)
Flash In The Night = 9
God of Romance = 10
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NO SONG hits the 12 range until FmaxX . Hell the only 11 pre-SN1 would be PSMO.
Bloodrush would like a word with you.
Saying that, I find PSMO harder than Delirium purely from the turns (Straight runs at 163bpm is not much of an issue, turns at 290 (145) are a lot more draining).
I will say though that VD wanders into 14 territory, it's a lot harder than Vertex^2.
Post #7 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 08:17:40am Hace 12.9 años
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ITG 9 = between 7-9 on DDR
A DDR 7 qualifies for an ITG 9? Are you sure about that? Heck, I'm not sure if a low DDR 8 would qualify (of course, songs like No Princess, Little Kitty Mine, and Birdie to name a few probably shouldn't have been rated 9).
So, I guess Max 300 and Paranoia Survivor (and maybe Paranoia Survivor Max:hea would be 10's, and MaxX Unlimited and the legend of max 11's? If So Deep is a 10, does that mean Exotic Ethnic, Healing Vision -Angelic Mix-, Xepher, and Cartoon Heroes are 10's? Sakura
I've actually played on an ITG upgrade cabinet that actually has a folder containing DDR EXTREME songs, so maybe something like that would help us decide?
Post #8 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 08:18:52am Hace 12.9 años
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A solid 10 would be Soapy Bubble.
Post #9 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 08:27:33am Hace 12.9 años
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Quote: Mercury
Maria (I Believe) Doubles = 10 (SLIGHTLY harder than Kimono Princess Doubles Difficult)
Can you please give a more thorough explanation as to why that song would be a 10?
Post #10 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 11:05:55am Hace 12.9 años
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A solid 10 would be Soapy Bubble.
If you mean in terms of what it would be on in DDR, then yeah :/
If you're talking about ITG, then that's usually considered the hardest 10.
Also, 7-9 = ITG 9 my ass. The average ITG 9 is much harder then an average DDR 9. Compare On A Day Like Today/Liquid Moon to Mad Blast/Uranus, which are a level apart.
DDR's old rating system was very inaccurate though, considering some 8's (Witch Doctor) were harder then some 10's (Sakura)
P.S. PSMO wouldn't be a 12, some people (not me though) consider it easier then The Beginning. Hades would possibly end up as a 13 based on the Jumps in the long-ass deathrun, and VD wouldn't be a mid-13, more like a borderline 14.
Post #11 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 05:01:08pm Hace 12.9 años
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Quote: silenttype01
Quote: Mercury
Maria (I Believe) Doubles = 10 (SLIGHTLY harder than Kimono Princess Doubles Difficult)
Can you please give a more thorough explanation as to why that song would be a 10?
It's quite possibly one of the twistiest and most technical DDR doubles charts I've come across (bar Kimono or 888), and since in places it's basically a slow PSMO on doubles it's an ITG 10 (becomes a high 9 once I take my Supernova 2 rating hat off). It is an awesome chart though
Quote: rayword45
Also, 7-9 = ITG 9 my ass. The average ITG 9 is much harder then an average DDR 9. Compare On A Day Like Today/Liquid Moon to Mad Blast/Uranus, which are a level apart.
DDR's old rating system was very inaccurate though, considering some 8's (Witch Doctor) were harder then some 10's (Sakura)
Dude: I find On A Day Like Today is for the most part easier than So Deep. Compare Maxx Unlimited Difficult to Kagami, which are a level apart.
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P.S. PSMO wouldn't be a 12, some people (not me though) consider it easier then The Beginning. Hades would possibly end up as a 13 based on the Jumps in the long-ass deathrun, and VD wouldn't be a mid-13, more like a borderline 14.
Yes but PSMO is harder than Vertex. (and easier than Bloodrush, Euphoria)
The Beginning is TIRING though (hardest 11 IMO), on the other end of the 11 scale you've got Xuxa, Vertex^2 Hard...
Bottom line is, I find twisty charts are tiring (and thus, hard) while straight runs are fairly easy upto about 170-180? Apples and pears and all that...
Post #12 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 08:30:44pm Hace 12.9 años
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Those 9s you listed are the easiest of them all. An average one is probably My Life Is So Crazy, which is basically 14 X-Scale. Also, have you never played Monolith?
I find LOM to be MUCH easier then 300, though Unlimited is the hardest.
I find LOM to be MUCH easier then 300, though Unlimited is the hardest.
Post #13 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 10:50:42pm Hace 12.9 años
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ITG 9:
Bag
Sakura
Chaos
ITG 10:
PS
max 300
Max 300 SMMM
PSM
So Deep
Cartoon Heroes
G2
Outer Limits
ITG 11:
MaxX Unlimited
PSMO
Max 300 SMMM
FELM
Possession
Delta Max
ITG 12:
FELM
HDVO
FAXX and
Possession
New Decade
Anti Matter
Pluto Relinquish
VD
Mei
ITG 13:
Anti Matter
New Decade
Paranoia Hades
Pluto Relinquish
Dead End GRS
888
ITG 15:
VD Oni
Bag
Sakura
Chaos
ITG 10:
PS
max 300
Max 300 SMMM
PSM
So Deep
Cartoon Heroes
G2
Outer Limits
ITG 11:
MaxX Unlimited
PSMO
Max 300 SMMM
FELM
Possession
Delta Max
ITG 12:
FELM
HDVO
FAXX and
Possession
New Decade
Anti Matter
Pluto Relinquish
VD
Mei
ITG 13:
Anti Matter
New Decade
Paranoia Hades
Pluto Relinquish
Dead End GRS
888
ITG 15:
VD Oni
Post #14 · Publicado en 2011-10-30 10:53:27pm Hace 12.9 años
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VD Oni is NOT a 15. :/
Post #15 · Publicado en 2011-10-31 02:17:48am Hace 12.9 años
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A lot of your 13s are more like 12s--Anti-Matter, PARANOiA ~Hades~, Pluto Relinquish and 888 come to mind. VDO is a 13, too.
But generally I agree with you. Max 300 is what I think of as the difficulty level of a "quintessential" ITG 10.
But generally I agree with you. Max 300 is what I think of as the difficulty level of a "quintessential" ITG 10.
Post #16 · Publicado en 2011-12-18 05:58:15am Hace 12.7 años
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Quote: Mercury
Maria (I Believe) Doubles = 10 (SLIGHTLY harder than Kimono Princess Doubles Difficult)
Can you please give a more thorough explanation as to why that song would be a 10?
It's quite possibly one of the twistiest and most technical DDR doubles charts I've come across (bar Kimono or 888), and since in places it's basically a slow PSMO on doubles it's an ITG 10 (becomes a high 9 once I take my Supernova 2 rating hat off). It is an awesome chart though
Because it really does not sound like you are. You really must be thinking of an entirely different chart. If's really not all that twisty or technical, and it's nowhere near a 10.
I'd rate it an 8, myself, but that would be a bit of a stretch.
For converting ratings between old DDR and ITG, I consider the scales the same. A 10 on DDR that isn't misrated high is at least a 10 on ITG, and a 10 on ITG is a 10 on DDR. The major difference is that ITG doesn't have as large of a gap between the hard 9s and the easy 10s the way DDR does.
Cartoon Heroes would be a 9 on ITG. (compare it to Liquid Moon)
Sakura would be a 9 on ITG.
So Deep could go either way.
Arrabiatta D- would be a mid range ITG 11. (passed it the other day with the bar, never playing again)
Arrabiatta singles would be an easy ITG 11.
PSMO is a mid range 11 on singles and doubles. Most of the song on singles is easier than The Beginning, but the death run at the end makes PSMO harder to actually get a pass on.