Post #1 · Posted at 2018-04-07 03:40:45pm 5.9 years ago
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Here’s a question: how dose offline mode work on ddr a, in fact, how dose offline work in general? Let’s say I wanted to buy a ddr a cabinet from someone that’s not the manufacturer. If I’m right, that ddr a will not work for accessing the internet and such. Can I still play on the machine on offline mode? What about the same thing for 2013 and 2014?
Post #2 · Posted at 2018-04-07 04:14:09pm 5.9 years ago
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Quote: imparatripin
Here’s a question: how does offline mode work on DDR A, in fact, how does offline work in general? Let’s say I wanted to buy a ddr a cabinet from someone that’s not the manufacturer. If I’m right, that DDR A will not work for accessing the internet and such. Can I still play on the machine on offline mode? What about the same thing for 2013 and 2014?
Fixed.Anywho to answer your question: Yes you can play 2013, 2014 and A offline, but you won't be able to do any updates to the firmware and you'll lose access to unlocked songs, You'll be pretty much stuck with the default song list.
Post #3 · Posted at 2018-04-07 04:16:50pm 5.9 years ago
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The EU version can run offline (in fact it has no choice right now), and I'm pretty sure the US version can as well. Offline mode would work the same as if you were playing online mode without an eAmusement pass, though I suspect that also includes the inability to get updates as well. What songs are available would depend on the software version of the machine.
DDR 2013 and 2014 are Asian only, and require online connectivity, which is no longer available officially. The Asian versions of DDR A also require online connectivity.
DDR 2013 and 2014 are Asian only, and require online connectivity, which is no longer available officially. The Asian versions of DDR A also require online connectivity.
Post #4 · Posted at 2018-04-07 06:30:28pm 5.9 years ago
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offline ddr A isn't bad but once you play online
it's hard to go back
it's hard to go back
Post #5 · Posted at 2018-04-07 06:51:12pm 5.9 years ago
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I'm not sure why anyone would want to play with the timing issues that plagued DDR Ace before the updates.
Post #6 · Posted at 2018-04-07 06:54:54pm 5.9 years ago
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Not being able to unlock new boss songs is a deal breaker for me.
Post #7 · Posted at 2018-04-08 05:53:55pm 5.9 years ago
The reason why I asked was because if I somehow get the money, witch will take some years because I’m a lazy 16 year old who currently has $400.00 and needs to work for the other who knows how much (I only looked at one site that had the machine. The price is tba) is because it’s going to be in South America. It will be in my dads vacation home and there’s no good ddr machines in Uruguay. Yes there is ddr machines in Uruguay, but the best one with there full song list is X. And the mats on that machine is ass. So thanks for the useful info. Hopefully I win the lottery.
Post #8 · Posted at 2018-04-13 03:35:58am 5.9 years ago
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Even if you did have the money to buy it (around $10,000 a machine), they only sell machines to companies and in lots of 50 as far as I'm aware.
Post #9 · Posted at 2018-04-13 04:19:11am 5.9 years ago
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Actually, I've heard that the distributor has recently opened up to anyone being able to purchase a machine (once again, only HEARD). This might be why that one trampoline place in Florida is allegedly getting an Ace machine.
Post #10 · Posted at 2018-04-13 06:41:17am 5.9 years ago
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Each Ace machine (last I heard from electrocoin) is valued at roughly around $20,000.
Purchase this, and you get the white cabinet (most likely UNIUNA cabs), but no online service. You will basically be playing a machine that has the default Ace songs + semi-full song list from DDR 2014 - DDR 1stMIX.
If you want to have it connected online through an e-amuse server, that will cost you somewhere around $500 - $1,000 YEARLY. Plus, you would need to buy e-amuse cards if you have players that want to save their progress in the game, which that probably would not be too much money to spend (or if you plan on getting SEGA/Capcom arcade rhythm games, wait until the 'unified' Nesica/e-amuse/Banamana card comes out in the summer).
In my eyes, you would need to be a millionaire (or your countries equivalent of a millionaire) to have the money to spend on just a SINGLE machine. Probably making $500,000 income yearly a minimum at best.
Konami just has not made buying these single machines easy, however my data could be even more outdated (this was from what I last heard back in January or when Europe got their first Ace machine, which was where we found out that there is now a distributor that can sell single machines outside Konami's '50 cab' thing) and the price may have lowered a bit since, but I doubt it would be anything less than $10k, hell even $15k.
You also have to factor shipment to another country, and if the country has any laws and regulations with the hardware that is being imported to said country (though honestly, has that EVER stopped anyone from getting these machines in the first place?)
It's a hefty penny, if your pockets are deep enough, go for it. I would love to see more machines start to pop up outside Round 1's and Dave&Buster locations in the US, more so to have machines in countries that probably did not even had DDR machines in the first place. Just wanted to share what I knew about the current state of buying Ace machines as of today, hope this somewhat helps.
P.S. I am keeping an eye on that Florida arcade/trampoline place, sent a PM to the person who made the listing and even they were skeptical of it, guess we'll find out once that date comes across. Betting it's a Betson X cab with X2 installed or something that's not Ace.
Purchase this, and you get the white cabinet (most likely UNIUNA cabs), but no online service. You will basically be playing a machine that has the default Ace songs + semi-full song list from DDR 2014 - DDR 1stMIX.
If you want to have it connected online through an e-amuse server, that will cost you somewhere around $500 - $1,000 YEARLY. Plus, you would need to buy e-amuse cards if you have players that want to save their progress in the game, which that probably would not be too much money to spend (or if you plan on getting SEGA/Capcom arcade rhythm games, wait until the 'unified' Nesica/e-amuse/Banamana card comes out in the summer).
In my eyes, you would need to be a millionaire (or your countries equivalent of a millionaire) to have the money to spend on just a SINGLE machine. Probably making $500,000 income yearly a minimum at best.
Konami just has not made buying these single machines easy, however my data could be even more outdated (this was from what I last heard back in January or when Europe got their first Ace machine, which was where we found out that there is now a distributor that can sell single machines outside Konami's '50 cab' thing) and the price may have lowered a bit since, but I doubt it would be anything less than $10k, hell even $15k.
You also have to factor shipment to another country, and if the country has any laws and regulations with the hardware that is being imported to said country (though honestly, has that EVER stopped anyone from getting these machines in the first place?)
It's a hefty penny, if your pockets are deep enough, go for it. I would love to see more machines start to pop up outside Round 1's and Dave&Buster locations in the US, more so to have machines in countries that probably did not even had DDR machines in the first place. Just wanted to share what I knew about the current state of buying Ace machines as of today, hope this somewhat helps.
P.S. I am keeping an eye on that Florida arcade/trampoline place, sent a PM to the person who made the listing and even they were skeptical of it, guess we'll find out once that date comes across. Betting it's a Betson X cab with X2 installed or something that's not Ace.
Post #11 · Posted at 2018-04-13 01:37:12pm 5.9 years ago
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Quote: Max
Each Ace machine (last I heard from electrocoin) is valued at roughly around $20,000.
Purchase this, and you get the white cabinet (most likely UNIUNA cabs), but no online service. You will basically be playing a machine that has the default Ace songs + semi-full song list from DDR 2014 - DDR 1stMIX.
If you want to have it connected online through an e-amuse server, that will cost you somewhere around $500 - $1,000 YEARLY. Plus, you would need to buy e-amuse cards if you have players that want to save their progress in the game, which that probably would not be too much money to spend (or if you plan on getting SEGA/Capcom arcade rhythm games, wait until the 'unified' Nesica/e-amuse/Banamana card comes out in the summer).
In my eyes, you would need to be a millionaire (or your countries equivalent of a millionaire) to have the money to spend on just a SINGLE machine. Probably making $500,000 income yearly a minimum at best.
Konami just has not made buying these single machines easy, however my data could be even more outdated (this was from what I last heard back in January or when Europe got their first Ace machine, which was where we found out that there is now a distributor that can sell single machines outside Konami's '50 cab' thing) and the price may have lowered a bit since, but I doubt it would be anything less than $10k, hell even $15k.
Purchase this, and you get the white cabinet (most likely UNIUNA cabs), but no online service. You will basically be playing a machine that has the default Ace songs + semi-full song list from DDR 2014 - DDR 1stMIX.
If you want to have it connected online through an e-amuse server, that will cost you somewhere around $500 - $1,000 YEARLY. Plus, you would need to buy e-amuse cards if you have players that want to save their progress in the game, which that probably would not be too much money to spend (or if you plan on getting SEGA/Capcom arcade rhythm games, wait until the 'unified' Nesica/e-amuse/Banamana card comes out in the summer).
In my eyes, you would need to be a millionaire (or your countries equivalent of a millionaire) to have the money to spend on just a SINGLE machine. Probably making $500,000 income yearly a minimum at best.
Konami just has not made buying these single machines easy, however my data could be even more outdated (this was from what I last heard back in January or when Europe got their first Ace machine, which was where we found out that there is now a distributor that can sell single machines outside Konami's '50 cab' thing) and the price may have lowered a bit since, but I doubt it would be anything less than $10k, hell even $15k.
Electrocoin cabinets are ~$18,000 USD and eAmuse service was quoted at ~$12,000 USD a year. They are likely are sitting on a 50 cabinet stock and are selling them individually.
Post #12 · Posted at 2018-04-13 02:02:26pm 5.9 years ago
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>12000 dollars for eamuse on one cab for a year
I think we figured out why noone buys this.
I think we figured out why noone buys this.
Post #13 · Posted at 2018-04-13 02:44:03pm 5.9 years ago
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or if you plan on getting SEGA/Capcom arcade rhythm games,
Wait, wait, wait... SEGA is getting into the music rhythm game genre? Tickle me surprised. (been out of the music game world news/update wise, just because I've been so busy with school. )
Post #14 · Posted at 2018-04-13 03:16:48pm 5.9 years ago
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Maimai, Chunithim, some other Ongeki game that looks a little strange.
As well as those Vocaloid games (Project Diva).
As well as those Vocaloid games (Project Diva).
Post #15 · Posted at 2018-04-18 09:11:41pm 5.9 years ago
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ok. sadly thinking about it, it would be cheaper to buy a old ddr machine, then turning it into a "stepmaina" machine. my issue is A: i never had a ddr machine. i would have to hire somebody who knows how to work the machine, and mod the machine B: i dont know anybody who even knows how to do that. C: (you should be able to find out why this is a problem, i just dont want to say just in case) ERROR: 151. and i would need a very simple guide on how to turn a ddr machine into a stepmania machine if i was to hire nobody. parts, ways to not kill my self with wires. and again: error 151 (if i somehow get "that" machine) so i hope that someday i can get the info i need, do things right, and get the "most accurate" modern ddr machine. if anyone if willing to help in some way, i would highly thank you, heck, "maybe" i will throw in "money" depending on how you helped. i really want to somehow bring modern DDR into uruguary. there is a small fan base there, and they have no idea on what there missing. thank you Max for telling me the actual prices that you knew. i now know that me getting ddr a will not happen.
Post #16 · Posted at 2018-04-18 10:19:11pm 5.9 years ago
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Quote: imparatripin
ok. sadly thinking about it, it would be cheaper to buy a old ddr machine.....
OR
You can buy a StepmaniaX machine/pads. They are of equal, if not BETTER quality than actual DDR machine dance pads, they cost a lot less than buying a full-on machine, and they ship worldwide.
You can purchase the pads + software if you want, but if you only get the pads, they can also be used for a StepMania setup and still work on that program as well, it's pretty versatile (oh and you can do 4-panel, 5-panel, and even 9-panel play per dance pad).
Post #17 · Posted at 2018-04-24 02:11:54am 5.9 years ago
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Or wait for Impulse Platforms to release their pads, which should run you a bit less than half of StepManiaX and just as good according to testers.
Post #18 · Posted at 2018-04-26 03:30:19pm 5.9 years ago
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Or wait for Impulse Platforms to release their pads, which should run you a bit less than half of StepManiaX and just as good according to testers.
Whenever that is.
Post #19 · Posted at 2018-04-26 03:59:00pm 5.9 years ago
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It's fairly soon, Joey.