Post #1 · Posted at 2018-01-09 05:47:11pm 6.2 years ago
Ok, I've checked once more any threads I remember containing rules so I know about the rules about posting external sites, but I haven't seen anything, so I've decided to post the link to the official thread I made at another forum for Challenge Series, since it's generally too much work to edit 2 posts every update. In there you'll pretty much find info about it, but I will say this: I need help coding the theme..
Link to site: http://stepmaniaonline.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5182&p=12056#p12056
Hope you enjoy the packs! If you have any comments or opinions, feel free to post them. If you have feedback, post them as well. If you have scores for the future extra stage event, you might want to PM me, rather than post them here. Makes it easier for me to send you the next extra stage and .crs file so you can challenge it.
Challenge Series v1.05 update (CSv1.05 and CSXXv1.02) is now out! Do check the update notes on SMO to see what's new!
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Hey there! The main post in SMO has been updated but I will briefly share with you what's been going on.
There is a new event going on with DDR Challenge Series: one for each pack. I'll explain:
DDR Challenge Series v1.04 (ends when v1.06 comes live)
Backwards Remix is an extra attack event where you try to fulfill the requirements for extra stage completion to unlock the next song.
DDR Challenge Series X-tremiX v1.01 (ends when DDR Challenge Series v1.06 is live)
X-tremiX Challenge is an extra attack event where you try to fulfill the requirements for extra stage completion to unlock the next song.
How do I unlock the next song?
Glad you asked. You will PM me a screenshot of your passing score according to the requirements set for the event. When I come online and notice your message, I will review it, and if it fulfills the requirements indicated below each event (or below all events in some cases), I will send you the link to the next song for you to complete. extra1.crs can be modified to fulfill extra stage requirements.
Unlock requirements for both events:
AA in SN2 format (950,000) the Expert chart
or pass in extra stage mode (4 lives) the Challenge chart 
to unlock the next song.
Play requirements:
Play in Extra Stage or simulate Extra Stage. The Extra Stage is as follows:
Battery: 4 Lives
Goods hurt your combo and lives. Make sure your theme follows this rule!
The following mods are allowed: Speed (Xmod only), Boost, Turn, Appearance (Stealth, Hidden, Sudden), Step Zone mods, Screen Filter and Custom Noteskins are allowed. Do not use mods that give you an unfair advantage!
Timing and Life difficulty are not going to be looked at, so you can be lazy and pass with timing difficulty 1, or try to be Mr. Hotshot and clear it with the highest difficulty levels! #braggingrights
Enjoy the update!
Link to site: http://stepmaniaonline.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5182&p=12056#p12056
Hope you enjoy the packs! If you have any comments or opinions, feel free to post them. If you have feedback, post them as well. If you have scores for the future extra stage event, you might want to PM me, rather than post them here. Makes it easier for me to send you the next extra stage and .crs file so you can challenge it.
Challenge Series v1.05 update (CSv1.05 and CSXXv1.02) is now out! Do check the update notes on SMO to see what's new!
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Hey there! The main post in SMO has been updated but I will briefly share with you what's been going on.
There is a new event going on with DDR Challenge Series: one for each pack. I'll explain:
DDR Challenge Series v1.04 (ends when v1.06 comes live)
Backwards Remix is an extra attack event where you try to fulfill the requirements for extra stage completion to unlock the next song.
DDR Challenge Series X-tremiX v1.01 (ends when DDR Challenge Series v1.06 is live)
X-tremiX Challenge is an extra attack event where you try to fulfill the requirements for extra stage completion to unlock the next song.
How do I unlock the next song?
Glad you asked. You will PM me a screenshot of your passing score according to the requirements set for the event. When I come online and notice your message, I will review it, and if it fulfills the requirements indicated below each event (or below all events in some cases), I will send you the link to the next song for you to complete. extra1.crs can be modified to fulfill extra stage requirements.
Unlock requirements for both events:
AA in SN2 format (950,000) the Expert chart
or pass in extra stage mode (4 lives) the Challenge chart to unlock the next song.Play requirements:
Play in Extra Stage or simulate Extra Stage. The Extra Stage is as follows:
Battery: 4 Lives
Goods hurt your combo and lives. Make sure your theme follows this rule!
The following mods are allowed: Speed (Xmod only), Boost, Turn, Appearance (Stealth, Hidden, Sudden), Step Zone mods, Screen Filter and Custom Noteskins are allowed. Do not use mods that give you an unfair advantage!
Timing and Life difficulty are not going to be looked at, so you can be lazy and pass with timing difficulty 1, or try to be Mr. Hotshot and clear it with the highest difficulty levels! #braggingrights
Enjoy the update!
Post #2 · Posted at 2018-01-09 06:23:31pm 6.2 years ago
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I need help coding the theme.
What have you done on the theme so far and what needs help with?
Post #3 · Posted at 2018-01-22 07:59:44pm 6.2 years ago
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So far, I've tried messing around with metrics.ini and made a couple graphics, as well as ready a couple for placing on the theme.
Once I manage to get some better understanding of .lua, I might work on beyond graphics.
Sometimes if I have some significant stuff to show about the theme, I might show my current progress during the stream.
Hopefully, I'll get back to doing the theme sometime this year, even if it is for a short while... Who, knows, maybe I'll get going with the coding
The main problem is, there are some things I want to do with the theme that changes the appearance (and the key configuration settings for the select song screen) substantially, so I'm not honestly sure where to start.
Once I manage to get some better understanding of .lua, I might work on beyond graphics.
Sometimes if I have some significant stuff to show about the theme, I might show my current progress during the stream.
Hopefully, I'll get back to doing the theme sometime this year, even if it is for a short while... Who, knows, maybe I'll get going with the coding
The main problem is, there are some things I want to do with the theme that changes the appearance (and the key configuration settings for the select song screen) substantially, so I'm not honestly sure where to start.
Post #4 · Posted at 2018-01-22 09:08:14pm 6.2 years ago
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I'd highly recommended working on chart quality before you attempt something ambitious like a theme. Overall, your charts flow poorly, make no sense, and have bizarre gimmicks. Plus, just use the default graphics. Please.
Post #5 · Posted at 2018-01-22 11:47:27pm 6.2 years ago
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Don't bother with him. He wants people to basically make the entire theme for him.
Post #6 · Posted at 2018-01-28 03:34:48pm 6.2 years ago
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Quick Man, just stop. I'm trying to get the gist of .lua, so no need to say what you just said.
As for chart quality and gimmicks, let's see how I fare in the future.
As for chart quality and gimmicks, let's see how I fare in the future.
Post #7 · Posted at 2018-01-28 05:11:59pm 6.2 years ago
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Fuck off.
Post #8 · Posted at 2018-01-28 05:43:38pm 6.2 years ago
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Fuck off.
Honestly how have you not been banned yet ? Seriously some of the posts you make on this site are just horrible and toxic. I know you want to play the role of an arsehole but there’s that and there’s what you just did are two completely different things. The way I’ve read this post is the person is willing to try to make up the theme and stuff theirselves but might want some help, at no point did I get the impression they wanted to see someone do everything for them.
What is actually your deal? If you don’t like what you read or have an opinion that strong for no reason just keep it to yourself please? The site would be a hell of a lot better that way.
Post #9 · Posted at 2018-01-28 05:47:04pm 6.2 years ago
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I've dealt with VGS wanting shit done for him for over a year now. You would snap too. I don't need a bullshit lecture from someone who posts once every 3 weeks.
Post #10 · Posted at 2018-01-28 06:39:15pm 6.2 years ago
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Fuck off.
Honestly how have you not been banned yet ? Seriously some of the posts you make on this site are just horrible and toxic. I know you want to play the role of an arsehole but there’s that and there’s what you just did are two completely different things. The way I’ve read this post is the person is willing to try to make up the theme and stuff theirselves but might want some help, at no point did I get the impression they wanted to see someone do everything for them.
What is actually your deal? If you don’t like what you read or have an opinion that strong for no reason just keep it to yourself please? The site would be a hell of a lot better that way.
When people act stupid on an internet forum, we treat them like they're stupid.
Post #11 · Posted at 2018-01-28 07:21:05pm 6.2 years ago
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To be honest, I agree with Quick Man being overly toxic. Here's what I think of him:
He seems like a nice person, however his toxicity pretty much drains that. If you disagree with him, believe me, get ready to be bombarded, because if you have different views from him, he'll definitely give you a hell of a time. As like his name says, he's Quick tempered, so a discussion with him will end up with him losing it before I do. He also justifies his opinions by being facts (counterwise to how I justify my opinions with my experiences, what I see and sometimes being my point of view).
Sure, I haven't played my words right in a lot of the discussions in the discord channel, and thanks to him, I learned a few things, but simply, it's toxic to be with him.
He's practically the first or second of the people that hate me to the degree of trying to damage other people's view of me and everything that I do like he did. I've been on many many other places and I haven't been mistreated as badly as him.
As for the discord channel, I'm not gonna talk about it, just that we know each other thanks to that channel, with I find a bit loaded with toxicity.
So... rant over, hopefully. As for the discussion about Quick Man, I'd like it removed (if it's allowed to ask and if any mod can), since it's way off topic
He seems like a nice person, however his toxicity pretty much drains that. If you disagree with him, believe me, get ready to be bombarded, because if you have different views from him, he'll definitely give you a hell of a time. As like his name says, he's Quick tempered, so a discussion with him will end up with him losing it before I do. He also justifies his opinions by being facts (counterwise to how I justify my opinions with my experiences, what I see and sometimes being my point of view).
Sure, I haven't played my words right in a lot of the discussions in the discord channel, and thanks to him, I learned a few things, but simply, it's toxic to be with him.
He's practically the first or second of the people that hate me to the degree of trying to damage other people's view of me and everything that I do like he did. I've been on many many other places and I haven't been mistreated as badly as him.
As for the discord channel, I'm not gonna talk about it, just that we know each other thanks to that channel, with I find a bit loaded with toxicity.
So... rant over, hopefully. As for the discussion about Quick Man, I'd like it removed (if it's allowed to ask and if any mod can), since it's way off topic
Post #12 · Posted at 2018-01-28 07:42:42pm 6.2 years ago
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Oh my god I literally hate you because you ramble too much, don't listen to ANY criticism, and are so full of yourself you think people should work for you because you think you're famous or something. This entire thread needs fucking nuking. No theme is going to be made.
Oh, and I don't give a fuck what your opinion about me as a person is.
Oh, and I don't give a fuck what your opinion about me as a person is.
Post #13 · Posted at 2018-01-28 07:56:31pm 6.2 years ago
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So... rant over, hopefully. As for the discussion about Quick Man, I'd like it removed (if it's allowed to ask and if any mod can), since it's way off topic
No, you opened this can of worms. Posts don't get deleted, nice try though sweetie.
Your simfiles are awful. Quickman has tried to help you and be realistic with you, but you've ignored any criticism.
You make stuff like this:
and expect people to appreciate the work you're doing. I played your butterfly (upswing remix) file, and it was literally 100+ 16th freezes. Learn to get better and then people won't tell you you're bad.
Post #14 · Posted at 2018-01-28 08:12:19pm 6.2 years ago
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This is a person who has claimed he will "make an alliance with Konami and make arcade versions of the pack".
Post #15 · Posted at 2018-01-28 08:32:12pm 6.2 years ago
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Fuck off.
Yeah, this is a bit much.I'm not sure what your beef is here, to be honest. Has he been hassling you about getting shit done? Because if he isn't it's best you leave him be.
Post #16 · Posted at 2018-01-28 08:36:07pm 6.2 years ago
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Yes.
Yes in-fucking-deedy.
He's been hassling me, as already said, for over a year.
Yes in-fucking-deedy.
He's been hassling me, as already said, for over a year.
Post #17 · Posted at 2018-01-28 08:37:14pm 6.2 years ago
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Can we see it? To those who don't know the context it just looks like you're ragging on him for nothing.
Post #18 · Posted at 2018-01-28 08:53:19pm 6.2 years ago
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I mean, it's very difficult to provide evidence since it's all on Discord, but there are quite a few users here who could vouch for me being truthful. VGS is overall just a very massive pain in the ass.
Post #19 · Posted at 2018-01-28 08:58:28pm 6.2 years ago
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Screencap it or something. Either way in future it's probably better to try to teach him how to be less of an arsepain. I'm not saying do his shit for him, but just drop some links to resources or something. Educate, not punish. Just like how the Norwegian prisons work.
Post #20 · Posted at 2018-01-28 09:12:30pm 6.2 years ago
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I did some digging, and here's the main thing Quick was alluding to. For context, Quick's nick on the server is "Hello! My Name is Turing!" and VGS' is "Erebus", and Quick had tried a few songs from the DDR Challenge Series and thought they were bad, with VGS trying to push him to try more. After a whole debate about "you didn't see enough", this happened:
This was when Quick was not on ZIv for a while, for context on that last little bit.
From some quick little digging in the server, this type of behavior and attitude from VGS wasn't a one-off thing, so it completely makes sense why it would get on Quick's nerves.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Oh my god you are really goddamn dense
Your fanpack is not going to be an "arcade version"
It is a simfile pack and maybe a theme
Erebus - 06/23/2017
I'm just trying to convince you to download the pack and try all the songs like I did with yours. Let's be even
@Hello! My Name Is Turing! , don't underestimate me. I can create an alliance with Konami and make arcade versions of the pack
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Unless you want to walkthrough the fucking manufacturing process of your Challenge Series cabinets
Wow you are talking out your ass now
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Also, When you say it is a simfile pack and a theme, and it is a fan chart, we're talking about both our charts
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
And? What's your point, I'm not claiming SN3 is an arcade game
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Well, I ain't either, I'm just proyecting the bigger and better future. I'm not stopping at stepmania, I want to be a huge success
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Good goddamn luck
If you think you're going to partner with Konami, you're actually delusional
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Like I said, don't underestimate me. I don't seek to make enemies, I seek to make allies and partners that we can work together with.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
IT'S LITERALLY NOT A THING
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Even if I have to reset everyone's bank accounts (even the elite) to 0 dollars and make everyone even.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
That's not a thing either
Erebus - 06/23/2017
You'll say I'm delusional, but I have a big picture to help the world, but if nobody wants my help, then I'll decently convince them. If not, then God shall take me away when he wishes to.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
You need to get over yourself lmao
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Hmm.. I guess you won't see my ideas clearly. That's okay, there will be (hopefully) like-minded people who want to help the world as well
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
There's been hundreds of people saying the same literal ridiculousness like you and there'll be hundreds more, be reasonable or expect everyone to laugh at you every time you say something in the community
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Lol, many big figures in history books were laughed at, but managed to complete their wishes. Now I use Luther King's words: I have a dream that I will accomplish everything I want to do in life. I have a dream that the companies will be more just to people over their pockets
And I have a dream of many good things to come in the future with the purpose of helping the world become a better place
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Yeah you know I don't think making questionable X 20s will achieve that
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Oh, I have more plans than that, you'll see.
I will go past stepmania and do things that deserve popularity, and will try to make more unique concepts of video games and cartoon series (and movies of variable graphics as well)
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
If you're gonna treat the community as some kind of stepping stone(and trust me, it leads to fucking nothing), the door's over there
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Ummm... where did I say I was gonna treat everyone as a stepping stone?
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Maybe actually realize making edits of DDR charts ISN'T all you need to suddenly break into mainstream popularity
You literally just said "i will go past stepmania"
Erebus - 06/23/2017
That's not what I meant
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
:eyes:
Erebus - 06/23/2017
When I said "I will go past stepmania" I meant that I am going to make games that actually satisfy people, series, shows, and toons that people enjoy watching, and I wish to make as many people happy, with the awareness that I can't make everyone happy. I want to make the greatest company in the history of the world, and make a couple of guidelines for new ones so more companies come, and the video game community has a far larger variety of games to play, and the people who watch stuff, a heckload of stuff to watch, of all genres
However, I am aware that without everyone else, I will have a hard time getting somewhere, but if I don't try, I'll never know. I don't wish to treat people as stepping stones, nor make them feel like that. I want to make them feel like they're part of us without being an employee of VideoGameStar Productions and it's franchises
It's a bit long to word my vision for the future and what I want to do
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
What do you know about any of this shit
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Of what?
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
You can't just say "im going to make the best company and revolutionize games, series and cartoons"(edited)
have you ever heard of this thing called reality? No company top tiers in every media format ever, god
Erebus - 06/23/2017
"I may be underpowered, but not undersmarted" something I said once. It is a quality of mine that I can use my situation to my advantage, and I will try to do things as wisely as I can. I will probably not be top tier, but I will aim for the position.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
How about you make something instead of just talking about how great you're going to be
Erebus - 06/23/2017
I will try. In fact, it's a project in progress and you don't know it.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Because with concepts like dismissing something being bad by saying it's creative, you're going to have a rough ride in game development
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Well, I can improve, but there are some things that I am creative with. The 12ths in Drop Out are one of them, even though they don't fit as well as you want.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Quality > creativity
Erebus - 06/23/2017
True dat.
But by being creative, you can make things of quality as well.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Quality is your pizza base, creativity is the toppings. Get one before the other
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Mmm... but creativity can also be making pizza bases that are unorthodox in the world
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Anyway I'm going to slap the mute on bc the last two hours of talking with you remind me of why I left ZIv, bye
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Ok.
Cya
Oh my god you are really goddamn dense
Your fanpack is not going to be an "arcade version"
It is a simfile pack and maybe a theme
Erebus - 06/23/2017
I'm just trying to convince you to download the pack and try all the songs like I did with yours. Let's be even
@Hello! My Name Is Turing! , don't underestimate me. I can create an alliance with Konami and make arcade versions of the pack
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Unless you want to walkthrough the fucking manufacturing process of your Challenge Series cabinets
Wow you are talking out your ass now
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Also, When you say it is a simfile pack and a theme, and it is a fan chart, we're talking about both our charts
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
And? What's your point, I'm not claiming SN3 is an arcade game
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Well, I ain't either, I'm just proyecting the bigger and better future. I'm not stopping at stepmania, I want to be a huge success
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Good goddamn luck
If you think you're going to partner with Konami, you're actually delusional
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Like I said, don't underestimate me. I don't seek to make enemies, I seek to make allies and partners that we can work together with.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
IT'S LITERALLY NOT A THING
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Even if I have to reset everyone's bank accounts (even the elite) to 0 dollars and make everyone even.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
That's not a thing either
Erebus - 06/23/2017
You'll say I'm delusional, but I have a big picture to help the world, but if nobody wants my help, then I'll decently convince them. If not, then God shall take me away when he wishes to.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
You need to get over yourself lmao
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Hmm.. I guess you won't see my ideas clearly. That's okay, there will be (hopefully) like-minded people who want to help the world as well
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
There's been hundreds of people saying the same literal ridiculousness like you and there'll be hundreds more, be reasonable or expect everyone to laugh at you every time you say something in the community
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Lol, many big figures in history books were laughed at, but managed to complete their wishes. Now I use Luther King's words: I have a dream that I will accomplish everything I want to do in life. I have a dream that the companies will be more just to people over their pockets
And I have a dream of many good things to come in the future with the purpose of helping the world become a better place
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Yeah you know I don't think making questionable X 20s will achieve that
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Oh, I have more plans than that, you'll see.
I will go past stepmania and do things that deserve popularity, and will try to make more unique concepts of video games and cartoon series (and movies of variable graphics as well)
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
If you're gonna treat the community as some kind of stepping stone(and trust me, it leads to fucking nothing), the door's over there
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Ummm... where did I say I was gonna treat everyone as a stepping stone?
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Maybe actually realize making edits of DDR charts ISN'T all you need to suddenly break into mainstream popularity
You literally just said "i will go past stepmania"
Erebus - 06/23/2017
That's not what I meant
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
:eyes:
Erebus - 06/23/2017
When I said "I will go past stepmania" I meant that I am going to make games that actually satisfy people, series, shows, and toons that people enjoy watching, and I wish to make as many people happy, with the awareness that I can't make everyone happy. I want to make the greatest company in the history of the world, and make a couple of guidelines for new ones so more companies come, and the video game community has a far larger variety of games to play, and the people who watch stuff, a heckload of stuff to watch, of all genres
However, I am aware that without everyone else, I will have a hard time getting somewhere, but if I don't try, I'll never know. I don't wish to treat people as stepping stones, nor make them feel like that. I want to make them feel like they're part of us without being an employee of VideoGameStar Productions and it's franchises
It's a bit long to word my vision for the future and what I want to do
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
What do you know about any of this shit
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Of what?
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
You can't just say "im going to make the best company and revolutionize games, series and cartoons"(edited)
have you ever heard of this thing called reality? No company top tiers in every media format ever, god
Erebus - 06/23/2017
"I may be underpowered, but not undersmarted" something I said once. It is a quality of mine that I can use my situation to my advantage, and I will try to do things as wisely as I can. I will probably not be top tier, but I will aim for the position.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
How about you make something instead of just talking about how great you're going to be
Erebus - 06/23/2017
I will try. In fact, it's a project in progress and you don't know it.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Because with concepts like dismissing something being bad by saying it's creative, you're going to have a rough ride in game development
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Well, I can improve, but there are some things that I am creative with. The 12ths in Drop Out are one of them, even though they don't fit as well as you want.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Quality > creativity
Erebus - 06/23/2017
True dat.
But by being creative, you can make things of quality as well.
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Quality is your pizza base, creativity is the toppings. Get one before the other
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Mmm... but creativity can also be making pizza bases that are unorthodox in the world
Hello! My Name Is Turing! - 06/23/2017
Anyway I'm going to slap the mute on bc the last two hours of talking with you remind me of why I left ZIv, bye
Erebus - 06/23/2017
Ok.
Cya
This was when Quick was not on ZIv for a while, for context on that last little bit.
From some quick little digging in the server, this type of behavior and attitude from VGS wasn't a one-off thing, so it completely makes sense why it would get on Quick's nerves.