The 7th KONAMI Arcade Championship

I agree with JanoDX on this. If Konami wants Japan to win then don't bother inviting NA, KR or TW. Just make the KAC Japanese exclusive. I think that KAC 8 should be in NA and then we'll be like Kaiba and screw the rules cause we have money. No, no just kidding. If they were to have KAC 8 in NA we'll try to make it fair for everyone instead of this one sided bullfuckinshit that their pulling.

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this game is great

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As much as I'd want this, I strongly doubt this would happen; at least, not next year. They'd need to get more traction in America with games other than DDR first. Maybe we'd see it for KAC 9?

At this point, I think they need to split this out as a larger "World Championships" similar in style to the PIU ones, with competitions in different categories (come on, I know you all want a doubles championship. Maybe bring back freestyle too?).

Find some prominent community members as hosts/analysts, and people experienced with actual eSports production, and cover it from technical and athletic standpoints. Get Twitch to put it on the front page, etc.

I don't even want to see KAC anymore. Make it Japan exclusive and let them live in their own bubble and let's start acknowledging other tournaments.

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A Japanese player winning DDR championship would be plausible if no one but Japanese players were getting song picks in both semis and finals. Otherwise there's less than 1% chance for them to beat both Fungah and FEFEMZ, and then also Chris in the finals. And by "them" I'm specifically talking about Brosoni, because the rest is a skill level or two lower than him and would need "winning the main lottery prize" levels of luck. The skill gap between the three best players in the world and the rest is very considerable and songs picks don't make that much difference when they only "suck" at specific high-level charts relatively to each other, not the Japanese "elite".
If anything these rules seem to be rigged specifically in FEFEMZ's favor, but I don't know if that makes much sense when the Japanese are racist against Korea almost as much as US. Could be sympathy for him being forced to retire after this tournament, or just him being "their boy" child prodigy.

EDIT I've missed the note about the change of determining the victor from cumulative EX score to sum of relative ranks on each song. This is actually a massive game changer as far as song picking strategy goes. Previously participants were pressured to take extremely difficult / gimmicky charts, preferrably with high notecount, to build up a sizeable score advantage over opponents. But now it doesn't matter how much you beat your opponent by, so players don't lose anything by grinding and then picking specific "easy" charts they can SDP or <20p way more consistently than their opponents. Finals without a single 19 suddenly become a very real possibility. FEFEMZ can rely on Possession and PREvo for an easy 1st place on them, Fungah has Koisuru which he loves and almost MFC'd last year, Brosoni has... we have no idea, but he could retry "count on everyone else choking" DEGRS from last KAC or pick something he's more consistent at like Tohoku Evolved or Healing D-Vision instead.
I also take back my statement about FEFEMZ being my favorite to win, Fungah has equally high chances with this system.

What could they pick to get into finals knowing that both FEFE and Fungah probably are preparing for every song they throw to them? And Chris is hard grinding. I wouldn't be surprised all three are ready.

At this point they should just recall all DDR A cabinets in America.

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Whoops, forgot to mention that the "rank sum" rule change applies to finals and only finals. Not semifinals or (obviously) qualifiers. As if it wasn't clear enough already.

"To 'preserve the spirit of competition'(extra large scare quotes), the defending champion will no longer be eligible for next year's tournament. This rule change applies for this game and that year only." /shitpost

Or "During finals, each player's EX Score will be penalized by the amount of dollars it took for us to fly them out here." /shitpost2

I don't think FEFEMZ is in Konami's sights at all. The five new rules are all against North America, but only one rule is against South Korea (and one rule actually helps FEFEMZ). It would seem like Konami is specifically trying to rig up FEFEMZ as much as possible, just so that North America won't win. So I'm rooting for Chris or Fungah, rather than FEFEMZ.

I'd be mad if any of the following happen (too likely for comfort):
- Fungah loses in semifinals, because he didn't get to pick a song and he didn't get a bye, and now there will be 0 North America song picks in the finals
- FEFEMZ wins strictly because of the rank sum rule (which is exactly what would have happened last year)

I'd be ok with it if any of the following happen instead (not so likely):
- Fungah loses in semifinals after getting to pick a song, which is fair (still, he deserved a bye and now there will be 0 North America song picks in the finals)
- FEFEMZ loses in semifinals for any reason (even if Fungah also loses), making it massively more likely that Chris wins
- FEFEMZ wins even without the rank sum rule
- BROSONI wins for any reason, just because of how dramatic an upset it would be (during last year's finals, BROSONI came in last for all three songs including his own pick)

Do any of these players look like a threat to Jeff to you? Seriously people, stop doomposting. The only way he can miss the finals is if he massively chokes, which would be his own fault even without his own song pick.
In case you missed that tidbit, West Japan will only field one participant (almost definitely Brosoni) while East Japan will field two.

It's almost as if the fear of Japan winning isn't an issue and instead Konami's actions are. "WELL THEY WON'T WIN ANYWAY" doesn't really cut it.

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A bit out of topic, but I'm really curious....

Anyone knows any info about this chara besides Yuni in KAC costume?

She was unlockable as a promotion during the previous KAC; there were promotional images on the cabs after completing a set. You had to sign up and do group A and B in order to unlock her.

Ahh, only on previous KAC :/
Sad to know that

There's a lot of negativity in this thread over people misunderstanding the purpose (for Konami) and KAC. As if you guys think Konami actually treats this as a legitimate tournament and that these rules aren't just to make viewership more exciting to exhibit their product.

So much complaining about "Well if they want Japan to win so bad..." without considering that compared to last year Konami has successfully boosted competitive interest in DDR (not just with KAC but their other events throughout Japan like DDR meet & greets). Caring more for the event than the actual competitors who seem to appreciate this event as a celebration of DDR with a "high stakes exhibition match" that brings players from all around the world together.

I'd hope that you guys take a step back, rethink the purpose of KAC and realize the "Championship" is a little bit of a hyperbole to motivate and hype up their games.

It's obvious for an experienced enough player that the community would know how to throw a legitimate tournament better than the official company most of the time. So try to avoid the shit slinging and negativity at a company because you don't like how they're marketing the game less in favor for your favorite players. I'm sure it kinda bothers the top rankers but I've noticed they're significantly less bothered than everyone else which may be for good reason. Maybe they just see this is a good thing that DDR isn't dead and that Konami is just doing their thing to keep the game going for many more years to come.

They don't hold a single other official tournament/championship for DDR. So they're clearly marketing it as a legitimate tournament. Viewership would be much more exciting if it were done properly rather than done as an unstable and unfair exhibition match. The only people who actually know KAC exist are already fans of the game, and for good reason.


Where have they successfully boosted competitive interest? Is it in Japan? Because all the top American players were playing with or without Konami's full support already. No one is "new" to the scene and no one has been for years. This tournament doesn't bring players from all around the world together unless "players" means "four players to Japan". That's not a global scale, dude.


Scapegoat excuse, nice. "It's just hyperbole". In my opinion, it's actually just a load of nonsense.


Thank god for the EXTRA EXCLUSIVE tournament after KAC. And... really? The "you're just salty that your favourite players are at a disadvantage" excuse? That's such a dumb argument. I could not care less about, like, any of the players who are going to be in KAC. Pointing out how biased and sad of a tournament it is doesn't make you a CHRS4LFE fanboy. If anyone's salty, maybe it's the people changing the rules dramatically once a Western person wins?


Keep the game going but keep the community held down, yes. I assume the top rankers are significantly less bothered because most of the top rankers were the top rankers last year and have had a year to come to terms with how fucking terrible Konami is. The ENDYMION/AfA fiasco also drained a lot of energy and actual care from them.

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"Hey, instead of spreading negativity over misunderstanding the purpose of an exhibition event, try not being so negative."

"Lemme argue against that with points I don't fully understand or have no accurate insight on."

Quickman of Zenius-i-Vanisher.

I'll just pick at one point since you're too mad and in your own head to understand all the other points that were proven otherwise throughout 2017 (way to overlook the whole DDR meet & greet snippet).


Look at every other KAC and look at how the rules have changed. Your interpretation of why the rules have changed for an exhibition event at a Japanese amusement expo when they haven't been in direct favor to other countries besides their own shows that it's not Konami that's "screwing the players over", it's you thinking that and getting upset over your own rationale. Especially considering how HEAVILY the rules favor Japan participation in every other game.

You're incredibly salty and I have no idea why, so how about you take the advice I laid out and take a step back. Just let Japan do their marketing thing, accept that the rules are designed not to screw anyone over in response to a country winning, and support the community instead.

Jesus christ you are so ridiculous lmao

It would be helpful if you actually had any evidence towards the meet and greets or you having AcCuRaTe InSiGhT because right now you're just dickriding. You're literally responding to a calm and collected response to each of your points and just taking the piss in response while implying you have some massive insight into the minds of everyone. "You r mad hurrhurr" is not making you look smart.

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DO YOU HAVE A SINGLE FACT TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS, OR ARE YOU JUST SPECULATING AND GUESSING AT WHAT'S GOING ON LIKE THE OTHERS

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