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Post #321 · Posted at 2017-05-29 08:09:36pm 6.8 years ago

Offline Sigrev2
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>not calling this week Rock Me Amadeus or Autobots, Rock Out
this contest is fucking dumb
also i would like to be added to the contest please and thank you

Post #322 · Posted at 2017-05-29 08:40:34pm 6.8 years ago

Offline hiddennames
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Oh boiii my song got approved. I've been meaning to do this one for a while

Post #323 · Posted at 2017-05-29 09:05:56pm 6.8 years ago

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"Yuuki Mishima for Tekken"
So how many people are going to submit J-pop or K-pop with a guitar in it?
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Post #324 · Posted at 2017-05-29 09:06:54pm 6.8 years ago

Offline The Legendary DJXYZ
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Did someone say it's TIME TO ROCK???
Finally, a week I have time and ideas for.
Not around here too often anymore, but I still play DDR & maimai!
My final contest run was in my signature so I guess I'll keep it here for those who wanna play my last few charts:
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Post #325 · Posted at 2017-05-29 09:44:49pm 6.8 years ago

Offline warpdr!ve
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"Fairy-nough"
I think I have a better shot of getting points if I smacked my head against a wall so there might not be much of me this round.

Looks like I have to play catchup later on then :/
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Post #326 · Posted at 2017-05-29 11:18:46pm 6.8 years ago

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This round is made for me ^.^.

Expect one of my silly rock covers, it's what I do best.

Post #327 · Posted at 2017-05-29 11:20:16pm 6.8 years ago

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I haven't heard nearly enough Sonata Arctica from you. Get to it.
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Post #328 · Posted at 2017-05-29 11:29:44pm 6.8 years ago

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Post #329 · Posted at 2017-05-30 12:37:40am 6.8 years ago

Offline daichiikamuzu
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Darn it. I missed the week 4 deadline Sad Guess I'll try again next week... Evil PuppyEvil PuppyEvil Puppy
ZIv Summer Competition 2017
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Post #330 · Posted at 2017-05-30 02:49:36am 6.8 years ago

Offline hiddennames
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How does the voting criteria work? Is it purely subjective?

Also, do people want feedback on their charts or should I just PM my votes and move on?

Post #331 · Posted at 2017-05-30 02:55:43am 6.8 years ago

Offline Nezemarth
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Voting rules are on the first post, and it is indeed purely subjective.

Personally, I would wish for willing participants to begin giving feedback on the songs' charts. (It's one of the reasons why I've stopped participating in this contest at the moment.) It should also be helpful for the new participants in this competition, of which I believe there are a few. Ultimately, though, it's your decision to make.
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Post #332 · Posted at 2017-05-30 03:21:39am 6.8 years ago

Offline warpdr!ve
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"Fairy-nough"
Mentioning this mostly for hiddennames but nonetheless for anyone else if you want a review, I'd be happy to provide if you don't mind waiting until a weekend when I have more time, just PM me beforehand I'll get back to you.

Yeah I would love some feedback too but I've kinda come to terms that it's extremely hard to come by here and in other charting based communities, so the least I could do is give it.

That all being said I agree with Neze on all counts so yeah.
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Post #333 · Posted at 2017-05-30 04:26:27am 6.8 years ago

Offline hiddennames
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Hopefully I didn't miss anyone

Holy crap this takes forever, I might just not rate things and just submit songs for the next weeks.

Guess I'll start then:

Please read this stuff first
If you want to know what was good or just simply a more detailed review, just PM me and I'll get back to you, eventually
Note:
My scoring system somehow turned from 0-5 to 0-3, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Based on playing the hardest difficulty only
I probably got stricter as I went down the list cause I was running out of points until I said fuck it and went over budget
There's way too many charts so I pretty much just played every song once only.
These are mostly first impressions on a sight read, so take these reviews with that in mind
These comments focus on the things that feel off and not really the things done right, so it might come across as overly negative, sorry about that.
Scores are probably biased towards songs I like to listen to.

EDIT: Guess I'll be a bit more explicit on how I chose my scores.
Because scoring is PURELY subjective, I chose my score on how much I would want to play that chart. There's two parts to this:
Would I want to play a chart once?
and
Would I want to play a chart more than once?

How do i get this idea?
From the first impressions of the hardest difficulty
Why?
1. Because that is what I would play if I just scrolled down to a song on a machine (I'm not going to be like hmm.... the challenge and heavy charts were mediocre but maybe the standard chart is amazing, let's try it out)
2. Because first impressions are really important. There has to be some reason I would want to play a song over the tens and thousands of other simfiles that exist
3. I'm not a scientist

Lets go back to the above criteria:
Would I want to play a chart once?
Humans, and especially me, like to focus on the negatives. There could be a ton right with one simfile but there could be just one glaring problem and that would ruin the entire simfile.

To me, this comes down to 4 things (and maybe more):
1. No double steps (that aren't marked and are easily recognizable especially on a first playthrough)
2. Rhythms are followed correctly
3. Sync and bpm is correct
4. Nothing ridiculously BS

Point 2 includes feeling overstepped and understepped TO AN EXTENT. There is also a difference between feels under/overstepped and IS under/overstepped. (Former being a more subjective feeling, and the latter being more of a fact)

A good example of what I mean here is IF by pie-kun. Is the chart understepped? Yes definitely, but does it feel understepped? No, and that's a positive in my book

If these things are followed then you're well on your way on making something I would want to play.

Positive criteria that I, specifically me, look for:
1. I like the song
2. Crossovers and tech in general are used for accenting purposes
3. Difficulty is between 9 to 12 ish, because that's the difficulty range that is the most fun to me
4. Song isn't repetitive or at least the patterns aren't repetitive
5. BPM gimmicks are tasty (playing on Xmod feels better than playing Cmod)

A lot of that comes down to pure song choice and not really charting ability. The thing is, song choice is a huge portion of the rhythm game experience. This might be slightly unfair if you decided to chart something easier than what I prefer, but remember that this is MY purely subjective criteria. If the chart is great, then others will definitely reflect that in their votes. Statistics is important.

Now the other question:
Would I want to play a chart more than once?
For me to want to play a song more than once, it would have to do something unique and be really solid. Instead of attempting to try any other song in the group of tens and thousands of simfiles, I would rather just play the same thing again, it's that good.
Examples for me include: Love Bird by Sudzi in Sudziosis V

It's really hard for a chart to get into this category, for me.
I don't think any chart in this ENTIRE group got into this category. This is reflected by only having scores between 0 and 3.

Hopefully, this clears things up.




How i would have scored if I had more than 15 points:

H Kiss Kiss - TikalFan9000 : Not bad, pretty repetitive though (due to the song). Crossovers feel arbitrary (seems to be a trend along this community, itg vs ddr i guess?)
H Only L - SupremeX : Not bad except the double step at second 81.4. Arbitrary footing after the jump at second 69.2, bit understepped (seems fine for its difficulty though). End is too crossover heavy (probably unintentional?)
0 Everglow - Devils : Work on your footing (This isn't a keyboard chart competition). Notes are sometimes stepped to nothing.
2 Gekkou Ranbu - ledgam : Good chart except random footswitches (18.4, 18.96) (or is this a spin? either way it's hard to figure out) and double step in the beginning of the 12 (8.56) (I guess this is some crossover? It's arbitrary and I end up triple stepping). Section at 77.4 is quite fun. (WTF is this sampling paradise initial D remix garbage though)
3 Alive - warpdrive : Good. Some crossovers feel arbitrary. Change the preview music Smile
H OMGWTH - djVertical : Not too bad. Slightly repetitive song. Bunch of double steps. Crossovers feel arbitrary. Has some good ideas though.
1 IF - Pie-kun : Pretty good except there are some arbitrary footings after jumps (for example at 20.4, left or right foot for the up? It's easier to use the left I know, but I'm weird, so). My first thought at 64.3 is to use my left foot (and not do crossovers) and that messes up with the footing later. Most crossovers feel arbitrary.
2 Arcana - PandemoniumX : Solid except it feels really understepped (appropriate for its difficulty, just think there should be a higher difficulty). Crossovers don't feel arbitrary (yayyyyyyyy)
3 Arcanes - Benpai : Solid. Much better than the first iteration that's for sure. Beginning feels very slightly overstepped. Some of the 16th footswitches don't feel like they should be footswitches? End crossover into footswitch comes outta nowhere. (Feels like cheating cause Sudzi reviewed it Tongue)
H Up & Down - chewi : Feels understepped. I get the up and down gimmick but it's still boring to me, sorry. Crossovers feel arbitrary.
1 Replay - K-Step : Pretty good. Slightly overstepped at portions. I use my left foot after the 65.5 jump, don't know why. Some crossovers feel arbitrary.
1 Tui Zhe Ge - 01angel : Pretty good. Some crossovers feel arbitrary.
1.5 Nervous - Gameoson : Good except double step problems in the beginning, some arbitrary crossovers, but also some good crossovers
2 Allure - Feraligatr : Good. Feels a bit crude on arrow placement sometimes. (Also, annoying as fk to sight read)
? Ooi - Hiddennames : mine
1 Blue - Spork! : Pretty good. Crossovers feel arbitrary. Hands portions are interesting. (Note: hard to simulate with fingers how the hands would feel on pad play)
H Yojigen chouyaku kikan - Daffa : Not too bad. Doesn't follow rhythms all of the time. There are good portions though. Crossovers feel arbitrary.
0 Reflux - Mr.Music : Has good portions but doesn't follow rhythms all of the time. Has double steps. Slowdown and return to normal speed don't completely follow the music. Crossovers feel arbitrary.
0 ix - stylek : (I guess this song isn't really my thing) Has double steps. Repetitive song. Repetitive patterns. Mine placement is rage inducing.
1.5 Be The One - Astroman129 : Good. Some arbitrary crossovers.
1 MATADOR - DigitalBasic : Good. Song gets kind of repetitive at the end. Jumps at 112.85 section are meant to be crossovers (I think) but if you just perform two jumps you end up with bad footing later on. Some crossovers feel arbitrary.
2 Bezel - HealingDMax300 : Solid. Nothing really wrong about it except that to me, song is a bit bland until the end
0 Like+it! - SomethingRandom : Bunch of double steps. Really understepped.
1.5 bbiribbom bbiribom - ddrstepper : Good. Bit understepped. Crossovers feel arbitrary.
2 Catchit - mu-box : What a meme song. Bit repetitive cause of the music. Otherwise solid.
H Max301 - NuVirus: Slightly overstepped at portions. Some sections are pretty BS (Lots of unnecessary tech: spins, hands, etc). EDIT: Actually, it's just the end jumps that are the pretty BS, the other tech is fine
1.5 Pretty Age 25 - DDRDIKENKAI : Good. Slightly understepped at portions. Not all crossovers feel like they should be crossovers.
2 End to End - Rikame : (holy 16) (I'm not good enough to sight read brackets). No comment.
H Fembot - tamtamino : (Not my type of song). Bit repetitive. Solid otherwise
H PUPA - my32892 : Random stops in the beginning. (and that speedup gimmick is too fast). Sometimes there are holds when there should be notes. Stops throughout make it real hard to sight read. Probably more fun on 2nd+ playthroughs.
1.5 We Are One - KevinRocker10 : Good use of bpm gimmicks. Some crossovers feel arbitrary.
H On the FM - Wari : Impossible to sight read (By design I assume). Bpm gimmicks are too fast or erratic. Some rhythms are off. Probably more fun on 2nd+ playthroughs.
H Diagram - Oni-91 : I stopped playing halfway through cause having the vast majority of the chart at half speed is annoying to me. Seemed fine rhythmically.
H mirage - 5l1n65h07 : Should be an 11 (173bpm crossovers in stream what). Random 270 in the beginning. Some arbitrary footing after jumps in the middle. Most crossovers feel arbitrary. Slightly repetitive song. Felt fine rhythmically.

Post #334 · Posted at 2017-05-30 04:30:29am 6.8 years ago

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Only reason I haven't been posting reviews is because I feel like I have a tendency to piss off a few people any time I do reviews. Confused And then there's also the people that probably don't read reviews and keep making the same mistakes* over and over and I feel like I'm wasting my time.

Buuuut for anyone that does want a review on any of their files, just send a PM my way and I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

*completely subjective

Quote: hiddennames
Nervous - Gameoson : Good except double step problems in the beginning, some arbitrary crossovers, but also some good crossovers

There's only two double-steps in the entire chart (both intentional), and they're those super-fast gallops anyway so I personally don't think it's a problem.

Post #335 · Posted at 2017-05-30 04:40:28am 6.8 years ago

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Quote: Gameoson


There's only two double-steps in the entire chart (both intentional), and they're those super-fast gallops anyway so I personally don't think it's a problem.

In the ITG community at least, intentional double steps are marked with mines.

Post #336 · Posted at 2017-05-30 04:42:15am 6.8 years ago

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Post #337 · Posted at 2017-05-30 04:43:22am 6.8 years ago

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Quote: hiddennames
Good chart except random footswitches (18.4, 18.96) (or is this a spin? either way it's hard to figure out) and double step in the beginning of the 12 (8.56) (I guess this is some crossover? It's arbitrary and I end up triple stepping). Section at 77.4 is quite fun. (WTF is this sampling paradise initial D remix garbage though)

You have the choice to either spin or footswitch that section; I don't want to force you to choose one or the other.

Also, I highly recommend you check out my Heavy chart too, at the very least. I did say my file only works in SM5 for a reason.
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Post #338 · Posted at 2017-05-30 04:43:53am 6.8 years ago

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I don't care if people don't post reviews, they usually don't help me. Like this:
Quote: hiddennames
Up & Down - chewi : Feels understepped
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Post #339 · Posted at 2017-05-30 04:46:51am 6.8 years ago

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"suffering from success"
really wishing people start hopping on that [code] block train pretty soon tbh

also i don't think i was put into the contest yet

not ravishing

Post #340 · Posted at 2017-05-30 04:58:32am 6.8 years ago

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Last updated: 2017-05-30 04:58am
Quote: Gameoson
Only reason I haven't been posting reviews is because I feel like I have a tendency to piss off a few people any time I do reviews. Confused

Point Taken

Quote: chewi
I don't care if people don't post reviews, they usually don't help me. Like this:
Quote: hiddennames
Up & Down - chewi : Feels understepped

Well I can't really go in depth with every chart cause there's so many. Maybe I should bold that these are more of first impressions.

To me, the hardest difficulty of a song should not feel understepped. That's what all the easier difficulties are for. Just my 2 cents.
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