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Theme help-- new themes too nice for my ancient monitor?

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Post #1 · Posted at 2016-09-14 11:56:53pm 7.5 years ago

Offline destructo-bot
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"...but where's MY machine"
Moving the display discussion from the SM5 Extreme thread to here, so I won't continue to derail it.

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If you help me with nothing else, I would love to know why things always go off the edges of my screen no matter what theme I'm using.

http://i.imgur.com/lakSTCA.png

(I had all these pictures inserted into the post, but the resizing didn't work, and they were way too big.)

It's always the left and right edges. It's just too wide, even though I have it set to the right aspect ratio. I can force it with the overscan correction, but that causes its own weirdness.

http://i.imgur.com/RPoF8tW.png

Without overscan correction, the arrows are right on the edge of the screen, and the bottom right is cut off. Not that it matters, the score at the bottom never changes; it stays zero the entire time regardless of timing or combos.

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Anyway, like I said, if nothing else, I'd love for any theme I downloaded ever to stop going past my left and right screen edges. I don't understand why it's doing this. I have tried every display option there is. I tried windowed versus full screen, I tried different resolutions and aspect ratios. Nothing worked except overscan, which kind of boxes everything in. It's not unbearable, but I just wish I knew why it was doing this. If there's something I can edit to make the themes stop being too wide for my monitor, I will absolutely do that. I don't mind doing the work, but I'm completely new to SM5 and it's been almost a decade since I played the older versions, and theme editing was never something I looked into back then anyway (we weren't exactly lacking in good themes), so basically I'm pretty lost.

Any help at all is appreciated.

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I tried every combination of resolution and aspect ratio I could think of, starting with the ones accurate to my monitor and then changing them in an effort to get it to display correctly. None of them worked.

My monitor is far from 'up to date'. I got it during a newegg sale dirt cheap; it's a 5:4, 1280x1024 HP monitor. I started off using SM5 with the correct aspect ratio and resolution, and to be fair, the default theme seems to work fine enough, which makes me think other 'minimal' themes would too, I just really want something nice to look at. (I thought that themes were built off of the default, which makes me wonder why the default seems to display within my monitor and none of the other themes do...) I tried fiddling with different combinations in an effort to get the various themes I tried, which I'm sure are all made with nice modern widescreen monitors in mind, to stop being too wide for my display. Right now I'm back to the correct ratio and resolution, since it doesn't matter anyway, and an overscan correction of -75.

At this point I kinda want to make my own theme, if only so that I can have a theme that I know has everything I want (banners instead of jackets, groove radar included, pretty graphics, etc) and so that I can build it to make sure it fits my monitor, but it seemed pretty hard to make a theme back in the 3.9 era, and for SM5 it seems it somehow got even harder. (Doesn't help that I'm not the most tech-savvy person in the world, of course.)

So yeah, any help or advice is appreciated.
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Post #2 · Posted at 2016-09-15 12:49:27am 7.5 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Most likely problem: Theme elements are positioned for 4:3 normally, or for 16:9 if widescreen is detected.

To handle 5:4 and other widths more generally, themes would have to decide which things have a fixed width, position those, then allocate the remaining screen space to the things that can be sized down to fit.
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Post #3 · Posted at 2016-09-15 08:39:49pm 7.5 years ago

Offline Jousway
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there is my theme which can do 5:4, some things slightly overlap, but overal it works pretty good, hey it even works with SMO if thats your thing, only thing is that my theme is so darn ugly


http://i.imgur.com/sSEaMg3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gjoqPe0.jpg


if ya do make your own theme I'm sure enough people here would want to test it for 16:9 and 4:3 if ya need help with that
Its not a bug its a FEATURE!
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Post #4 · Posted at 2016-09-20 05:35:56pm 7.5 years ago

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"...but where's MY machine"
I got it to work!!

Thanks to everyone who helped me, both in this thread and out. What I did was I set the resolution to 800x600 and set the aspect to 4:3. Put it in full screen mode and boom! It works!! While I'd tried this before, maybe I tried it with the wrong resolution, which might've been why there was still some edge bleeding weirdness. 800x600 works perfectly except that some of the background images are kinda... pixelly (that's what happens when you stretch a 4:3 to fit a 5:4), but heck I'll take it. Most everything else is perfect.

One theme I have still won't work right, but it's a Problem Theme that's extreeemely widescreen, and my other themes work now, so I'm not torn up about it.
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