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Can an itg2 groove arcade game be converted to openitg and maintain coinop pay to play?

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Post #1 · Posted at 2016-05-12 07:11:22pm 7.8 years ago

Offline wsxxsw1
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Hello,

My father manages an arcade on the boardwalk and they have a broken itg2 machine. They have been unable to fix it at this point he is telling me they are thinking about just getting rid of it. I told him that there is a way to install open itg and you can get it running again. He is curious if it would still work with the pay to play?

Does anyone know of arcades using old ddr/itg machines running open itg?

Is installing open itg going to be something that is easy for long-term arcade mechanics?

Post #2 · Posted at 2016-05-12 07:33:50pm 7.8 years ago

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Obviously yes
Open ITG is a perfect replica of the old itg2 arcade build, with a lot of extra features, you will not notice the difference in a gameplay with ITG or OITG
Please read my tutorial about converting an arcade DDR cab to OITG
if you have original linux build functional you have simply to update machine, you have to manually add the patch and then run the update
if your cabinet doesn't work probably it's a hardware or hard drive problem, in that case you have first to fix hardware problem and then do a clean linux or windows installation.
If you have an original ITG2 boxor unit I suggest to use a linux build, so you can use the ITGIO
Also I suggest to use the official OpenITG2 build.

Post #3 · Posted at 2016-05-12 10:38:50pm 7.8 years ago

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okay that's good to know. I would really like them to fix it so I could play, it's the only dancing game left on the boardwalk.

I am not sure what the problem is - they originally thought it was a power supply issue but after replacing the power supply they still can not get it to work.

I will talk to the arcade mechanic tomorrow and show him some of the tutorials and try to get more information. If I have more questions I will post them here.

Thank you.

edit: Sorry, the hardware is broken I was suggesting that they took all the hardware out and then installed a PC with open itg. Isn't that what people are doing with old DDR machines? How easy would this be for an arcade game mechanic?

Post #4 · Posted at 2016-05-13 05:05:22am 7.8 years ago

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Sorry, the hardware is broken I was suggesting that they took all the hardware out and then installed a PC with open itg. Isn't that what people are doing with old DDR machines? How easy would this be for an arcade game mechanic?

In that case I invite you to read my guide (posted in this forum you can also download a PDF one with pictures and diagrams)
It's not a 5 min job and it should be done by qualified arcade technicians. Arcade machines are not toys, and there is high voltage inside.
If you have your technician ready, with enough experience and knowledge, with all hardware in workshop, it could take from one or two days to one week, it depends from many factors, (hardware install, software install, checks, cleaning, tuning monitor) etc. etc. etc...
You can print a copy of my guide and use it as refer point, I upgraded a lot of machines, and it's supposed to be highly tested.
Good Job ;)

Post #5 · Posted at 2016-06-27 03:06:03am 7.7 years ago

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Quote: yoshi75
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Sorry, the hardware is broken I was suggesting that they took all the hardware out and then installed a PC with open itg. Isn't that what people are doing with old DDR machines? How easy would this be for an arcade game mechanic?

In that case I invite you to read my guide (posted in this forum you can also download a PDF one with pictures and diagrams)
It's not a 5 min job and it should be done by qualified arcade technicians. Arcade machines are not toys, and there is high voltage inside.
If you have your technician ready, with enough experience and knowledge, with all hardware in workshop, it could take from one or two days to one week, it depends from many factors, (hardware install, software install, checks, cleaning, tuning monitor) etc. etc. etc...
You can print a copy of my guide and use it as refer point, I upgraded a lot of machines, and it's supposed to be highly tested.
Good Job ;)

I'm sorry but nothing you are saying is true.

Firstly, the only thing dangerous in a DDR/ITG cab is, potentially, the CRT, and OP doesn't need to touch it.

Secondly, it took me literally 30 minutes to upgrade the hardware and replace the software on my boxor to modern linux + oITG. It's very very easy and there's a million scripts to automate the process nowadays. Don't scare OP.

I took a quick peek at your guide, and besides it being an unstructured wall of text full of rambling, your ~8000 word thread can be simplified to one sentence:
If you have a broken ITG machine, replace the computer and use https://github.com/concubidated/itgpro2

Please send this github link to your arcade tech, OP

Post #6 · Posted at 2016-08-13 04:13:23pm 7.6 years ago

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If you have a faulty boxor with the ITGIO ready it's obvious that it will took less time and I'm happy for you, I just said the things in the way safest possible clearly explaining step by step what it should be done with any type of hardware.
I don't think if you have to begin from zero in 30 minutes you can prepare the place for the motherboard, io inputs pcb, hdd, and if you haven't a lights controller you modify the dance boards and maybe also install an isolation transformer in the case you have a korean cabinet, and so on...
I wrote the "~8000 word thread" exactly for people are not in the lucky position to have all ready. The first revision of my tutorial was much smaller and a lot of people asked me to explain all the passages step by step, so I decided to explain everything one technician should know, because it's a technician job.
You can think what you like but when you do an engineering job, please consider all variables.
I read the itgpro2 guide, and I know the itgpro iso, but I decided to start over not only for people use linux but also (for example) for a guy that maybe doesn't know even how to boot from disc.
Finally, just to say, linux is beatiful because it's flexible, on machines I used linux I preferred to install the arch-linux distro, but it's question of personal likes, nothing more.
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