DanceDanceRevolution A (AC)

Just tried DREAMING-ING! D- completely blind. The steps were actually incredibly straightforward, except for two wide stretches. I actually liked it more than S-, not that that wasn't also fun. The BG video wasn't as distracting as I expected, either! I'm happy North America got it too.

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Anyone able to translate what the message says?



Edit: In case image failed to load, source: https://twitter.com/acTroopers/status/920852246115393537

I'm not that great at Japanese anymore and it's written in honorifics, but from what I gather it says something like

"Thank you for always supporting BEMANI. Regarding your concern about the BEMANI fan site that you wrote us about, we are currently not publishing artist pages because of circumstances at the company. Please forgive us that we are not able to give you more detailed information.

Thank you for sharing your valuable opinion about our contents with us, we will share your feedback with the company. Thank you for your continued support of BEMANI"

Seems rather cryptic.

The person who posted the message on Twitter also posted a follow-up tweet saying "For those optimistic people who think the artist profiles were taken down because they're working on a site renewal, this is how it is".

What on Earth is going on over at Konami?

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the MC of the Benama livestream was apparently sexually harassing people at KONAMI, whether or not the artist removals is related to that incident is unknown (though it probably is, somehow)

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Who was the MC of them again?

Can all this discussion of the death of BEMANI go on in another thread?

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let's talk about DREAMING-ING (the tomosuke song is much better tho)
the chart is nice, song is eh
life goes on
and yay USA got something even though only 9 songs are missing out of the 80, and most of them are
kinda bleh

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You know what, the gameplay for Tokimeki Idol is waaaay similar to Deresute (5-lanes)

I don’t think this was posted anywhere.

Dreaming-ing!! double expert steps, off-screen:
https://twitter.com/modelft2miracle/status/920835725293076480

Endymion D-: Yesterday, TAKASKE made it to the end of the first 440 BPM section with 2 lives left for the first time instead of 1, but unfortunately lost a life on one of the 220 BPM 16th crossovers and then started the 880 BPM section's direction change too early, so no new steps have been revealed. :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjHXP4EEltU

Notably, this is the very first time TAKASKE's full combo'd any one of the chart's 440 BPM crossovers. It looks like the strategy to beat the crossovers is the same as FEFEMZ's, by massive amounts of doublestepping and sometimes hitting notes out of order (deliberately getting multiple Goods to avoid getting Misses). Can hardly blame TAKASKE for doing that though.

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On a related note, I did some more analysis of what we know so far about Endymion D-. Here's another prediction video:



Highlights:
- When I last tried to guess the chart's rhythm, I made a counting fail and didn't see the two 4th notes that are missing from the jumpstream at the end. (933-935 combo and 948-950 combo) This means that in all of the unknown parts after the 880 BPM section, Singles' rhythm and Doubles' rhythm are only 8 notes apart, not 10. Importantly, this means that Doubles can't just remove all the 440 BPM 12ths and jumpstream 8ths and call it a day, since that would be removing 10 notes. Instead, Doubles might keep at least two 8ths in the jumpstream. Trouble brewing ahead for anyone who gets that far several months from now. (This kind of rhythm change has some precedent: e.g. Paranoia Revolution D- removes almost all of the 360 BPM 16ths that S- has, but keeps one right at the end, and Max.(period) D- removes a large majority of the 600 BPM 6ths that S- has, but keeps a handful right at the end.) The stepchart artists could foil this guess by adding in two more extra freezes earlier in the chart (they've already added in two; they'd need four).
- Even CUT1 at 440 BPM reveals several patterns that could only be extra crossovers that aren't present in the Singles chart. Here's a list:
- In the second-to-last stream before the 110 BPM part, 1L 1U 2L forces at least one new crossover no matter where you put the 8ths in between. (623 combo)
- In the first stream after the 110 BPM part, 2D 1R 1R 1L again forces a new crossover. (720 combo)
- Immediately after that, 1L 1R 2D forces two new crossovers in a row and is strongly reminiscent of a pattern in Egoism 440 D-'s ending, which is already ranked as the hardest Doubles chart of all time. (728 combo)
- A mere 1/8 of the way through the deathstream, 2D 2R 2L forces a new crossover again. (822 combo)
- tl;dr While Singles has a total of 9 crossovers inside 440 BPM 8th streams, Doubles could easily have 15. (Compare to Egoism 440, where Singles has 0 such crossovers while Doubles has 6.)
- There's a few other parts that were weird to fill in given the CUT1 steps. Given that the last time I found steps weird to fill in, we got unexpected 440 BPM 12th quintuples, I wonder how the stepchart artists filled this stuff in this time. There's less room for error now that Singles' rhythm is known 100%. Here's a list:
- At 447 combo, Doubles has a freeze that Singles doesn't have. Meanwhile, Singles has a freeze at 444 combo. This presents an unusual scenario: It is impossible for Doubles to match both Singles' rhythm and Singles' freeze length (otherwise the player is forced to hit three arrows at once). Doubles could keep the length and delete a note from Singles' rhythm, or it could delete Singles' freeze, but both of these would mean adding another scoring item elsewhere (maybe a third 8th in the jumpstream). Doubles could also shorten the freeze a little and make 2 extra jacks, or shorten the freeze down to one 16th note long (I did the last one).
- The whole sequence from 557 combo - 710 combo is weird to chart. Unlike Singles which has several jumps to 'reset' the player's position and avoid badly demonstrated doublesteps, Doubles has no jumps at all. It would be fine if the whole thing could be done as an unbroken stream of alternating feet, but I can't find a way to do that - the player looks forced to spin at least twice. I ended up 'fixing' both places by adding a jack in one place and adding extra jumps (jumps on 8ths where there are no jumps on 4ths) in the other place, but I don't like either solution.

Exactly!

It feels like a piece of music made from a high school student who has great ideas and creativity, but has shitty softwear for editing and polishing the final product.

Also, coming after ENDYMION, which is basically the definition of "drama", it's super boring.

I honestly don't know what people are talking about when they say ACE FOR ACES is underwhelming. Maybe it's because we don't have clean audio yet, maybe it's because people's tastes vary, I don't know. I think it's the best Encore Extra Stage song we've ever had. Yes, really.

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Have you found the source beat for Ace for Aces? Because EDSM is partly sampled. Shocker, because I thought U1 was gonna save us from the TAG synth tune by bringing the Wub Wub if we cannot get Naoki-style dance music again. I'm sure if I look and listen hard enough, I might even find the DDR A BGM loop on the site below.

Here is EDSM's sample beat, courtesy of U1Berserker from YouTube.

https://www.pond5.com/stock-music/50195435/vde3-128-bpm-complex-kit-1-mix-root-f.html#2

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I'm not 100% on if it's the best but I do think it's very much up there too. Where the point of contention is with the beat, I actually like how it sounds a lot. It doesn't have to be super complex to be interesting in my opinion.
I thought ENDYMION was a very good song, if not the best sounding 19. The drama is more so the event and how absurdly hard the steps are rather than the song itself.

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Musically speaking, ENDYMION is the best 19 we've ever gotten, and one of the best songs in the entire mix and it's definitely up there comparing previous mixes as well.

No way was ACE FOR ACES going to live up to that - not unless we get another 18, at the least.


Don't you dare insult Roppongi EVOLVED (all 4 versions), Valkyrie Dimension, MAX. (Period), or Over The "Period", those were all amazing (musically wise, I'm aware VDO is a terrible chart).

Roppongi EVOLVED is generic, Valkyrie Dimension is boring, MAX.(Period) is a mess and OT"P" is mediocre.

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ACE FOR ACES is one of the better DDR A songs. It sounds diff from most TAG songs, disregarding the synths.
It doesn't have to be a energetic dramatic song like ENDYMION. it isn't suppose to be. it's like LOVE IS THE POWER Re:born, a extra treat, though i'm sure many of you dont like Love is the Power if you dont like AFA
I thought oppongi was a nice listen though VD and OTP are eh.

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I like A4A because it actually doesn't sound like an OMES song at all. Most of the previous ones were like, super dramatic sounding, whereas A4A is a lot more laid back and relaxing in comparison.

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I suppose since we're on the topic of basically every EES I'll give my rundown:

CANDY☆: It's decent, fun but nothing special imo.
KAKUMEI: Really cool, though seeing as how it's based off a classical song I don't know if it should be judged the same or what.
DanceDanceRevolution: Cool instrumental, but all the vocal samples thrown on top are kind of a mess.
CHAOS: Interesting, but not something I'd just be like "YEAH LETS LISTEN TO THAT." Not in a bad way though.
TRIP MACHINE PheoniX: Pretty cool remix of SP-Trip Machine. I always found it weird that the chart didn't have BPM gimmicks.
PARANOiA ~HADES~: Cool PARANOiA remix. I like the spooky style it has.
Pluto: One of my favorites but you can really tell it's made specifically to be a crazy song with bpm gimmicks in DDR.
Pluto Relinquish: I like it but I don't think it has a lot of substance to it, nothing memorable really.
Horatio: Really cool, has a fun style to it. Forgot it started as an EES.
on the bounce: Another one of those interesting songs that you like but you don't ever really think to just listen to.
Trigger: Neat but nothing special.
roppongi EVOLVED: I'll agree that it's somewhat generic but I like it a lot regardless.
Valkyrie dimension: I like it a lot but it's most memorable from its beat which is fairly ordinary for the genre but cool regardless.
UNBELIEVABLE (Sparky Remix): I don't care for it, been a while since I've listened to it though so idk.
NEPHILIM DELTA: I like it, certainly not a song for everyone.
SILVER☆DREAM: I've never really been a big fan of jun's solo work, so I don't care for it too much.
Tohoku EVOLVED: Really cool but it's just a remix of London EVOLVED.
LOVE IS THE POWER -Re: born-: Pretty chill and good song. A cool thing as the final song in the throwback to 2ndMIX.
MAX. (Period): A good remix of MAX 300 but I can see where the "Why do you need" sample could be annoying to some.
Over The "Period": It's alright but nothing particularly special. If the charts made any sense it'd be fun in DDR at least...
Ace For Aces: Really cool song. Synths are good. The beat, though somewhat simple, is very good and fits well imo.

I guess my favorites are probably KAKUMEI, AFA, Pluto, and Horatio. I like most of the others though.

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