DanceDanceRevolution A (AC)

I mean from what i understand from people on twitter, it's the fact you have to get about 2 hours gameplay out first before you can actually get an attempt and it has to be done in one day, so if you go to the arcade and its busy you might not actually physically be capable of getting an attempt ? I've seen a lot of tweets about people having big queues at their arcades of like 8 credits before them, so if you need to get out like 10 credits to attempt it (i have no idea how many it actually is i just know its a lot apparently) and theres a constant queue you're looking like 50-100 credits before you can actually hit all the requirements and it has to be done in one day?



Im like 99% sure if it wasnt for the time limit on your heat power resetting it'd have been done long ago by now. Purely because you'd be able to save up between sessions.

That's essentially my big issue with it. Not only do you have to grind out like crazy (in an arcade game), you need to max out your heat power (which resets before most people can get ten credits in) to even attempt the song. Maybe they just forgot this is an arcade game and that this kind of padding doesn't work in one.

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I mean, this is exactly the kind of thing a company would do to get more revenue for their game. I don't know why people seem to conveniently forget that Konami is a business. Shit like this, the constant grinding and dire consequences for a simple fuck up, is absolutely genius. People keep paying, people keep playing. And obviously it's working, since most of this thread seems to be focusing on one chart for one song from this event as a result.
They keep DDR fans on a drip feed and then do something devilish like this to get people going again. Konami knows what they're doing. For the most part.
Doesn't mean I like it as a fan, but hey I have CS games to play to give me my fix.

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My personal (conspiracy) theory is that they're trying beat OT'P's record (132 days) for longest time to pass something, ENDYMION's at 70-something at the time of this post and honestly they're failing at that, FEFEMZ probably only has a few more attempts before he gets it

EDIT: And the stupid heat power way is an artificial way of inflating that time, but the thing is ENDYMION is hard but probably not literally-thousands-of-attempts level of difficult

Unpopular opinion:

The event is fine. A little tuning to heat power mechanics may be warranted, but it's largely fine.

Also IMO, accessibility to DDR A locations is an issue.

The new hinabitta event doesn't include DDR A. Apologies to all DDR players...

I think the real problem with the event, especially in America, is not only accessibility to locations with A, but the fact that these locations often only have one machine, leading to potentially long wait times between credits. The only ones I can think of that have more than one are a few R1s in California.

Fine by me, the only song I thought sounded good from the previews is Drizzly Venom :v

I don't know. When some players find a machine to themselves and feel compelled to select Pluto Relinquish on RISKY 23 times in a row, I don't know that I'd call that "fine"
(p.s.: Is there a faster way to farm heat power?)

I mean i completely understand the concept of doing stuff like that from a business stand point, and as someone who sat through the entirety of worldmax on PIU NXA i've had my share of credit snatching (UFO and Bomb missions let alone sheer memorization charts). But i think the issue with this is the amount they expect one player to do in one day requires them to be willing to grind out an obscene amount of time which might not be physically possible in most locations, if the requirement was like, 5 credits in a day as opposed to the 10 we're saying it might be (but dont actually know) it'd be significantly more doable.

Alternatively they could have your heat gauge only drop one part overnight as opposed to the whole thing, or allow you to pay extra to double the growth on it or something anything, there's a large number of options they could have done to still get revenue and playtime without just making it literally impossible to reach if your only location is a busy arcade.

Regardless it's near a pass now, im legitimately surprised though that we've not had two people level up together at the same time so they get two subsequent tries and then got 2-4 people to mash the crap out of the pads as goods dont break combo anymore just to get a full chart so people can go off and practice it. It's what I would have done day one personally.

There is not. If there was, this event wouldn't be nearly as bad.

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Yeah, I actually don't think the Heat Power requirement is the issue so much as it's the fact that you lose it all at the end of the day - making it near impossible to farm if you don't have access to a machine basically by yourself. I mean, the whole "Play this song once per 8 credits" song and dance I'm not apologizing for that pun has been done not once but three times before - with both Valkyrie Dimension, MAX. (Period) and Over The "Period".

It takes seven rounds to reach heat power level 3, and on the eighth you can play endymion. Also keep in mind both players get to play endymion no matter what, meaning that it's essentially twice every eight rounds that you get to play endymion.

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Keep in mind that when two players play together and select ENDYMION, both players lose all their heat units. Thus, playing the song twice in eight rounds only works once - if one player plays ENDYMION and then borrows someone else's EXTRA STAGE Level 3 the round after, draining the other player's heat power. The luckiest scenario for a player wanting to attempt ENDYMION is to constantly find players that are on Level 3 and are willing to give up all their heat units - if there are eight players around, he can technically play ENDYMION every single round. However, such a case is not statistically possible unless there are eight DDR A cabinets and eight players who are willing to do that.

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And this is why people don't like the fact that they have to exhaust their money and energy to reach the exhausting boss stage. I downloaded the simfile of Endymion just to try out the challenge charts on my phone, and my friends think I'm on crack just based on how complex the step chart is. Just stop playing for Endymion, let's see how Konami will react to it.

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I actually never played ENDYMION (except I let a friend select the song to try it out before unlocking level A while he was with me), and I'm sure very few people out of the entire fanbase actually play it at all. I'm not sure if Konami will even react if we stopped. In any case, we can expect a lot more people to start playing it once it's playable on a normal stage.

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I'm just trying to figure out what the best way to delay a chart's unveiling over 100+ days that doesn't involve strictly limiting how often you can play it - the current record for longest delay on something that didn't do this is 38 days, for both Trip Machine Evolution and Paranoia Revolution, less than 1/3rd of VDO and OT'P'; since clearly they want to make this event take as long as possible, I'm still trying to figure it out - then again, it could just be we're looking too much into this and they don't actually expect anyone to get it.

(I'm still on forcing 1-life for a 18-footer, but honestly that wouldn't last a month if it's freely available, literally there's only one 18-footer that hasn't been PFC'd at this point (and that one is DEGRS, which is ahahahaha levels of stupid). Maybe forcing a PFC-attack Extra Stage? I'd honestly love to see something like that, as currently all Perfect Attack stages were done on EES.)

but don't let me stop you from trying, keep those credits comin'

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Well, think of endymion as a bonus. Like an extra stage. Something you play after your normal round of ddr. You could...not play endymion and do something else with that time you have. Maybe play another song.

I don't think I'll ever play endymion on a cab, but I like to see people try to pass it.

More ARM is coming to DDR A??? It must be my birthday!

Funny that they're going back and adding the original version of Cirno's Perfect Math class... wonder what the difficulty will be.

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Hate to break it, but US isn't getting these.
If MDX:U was on there, we'd get it.

On another note, what region is MDX:Y?