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Post #3621 · Posted at 2017-03-18 06:08:07am 7.1 years ago

Offline wrsw
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"Sleep cancelled due to COVID-19."
From what I've gathered, outside of Round 1, Bemani titles other than DDR A are not going to happen.

The Rhythm game market, as much as I hate to admit it, is very niche. DDR was one of the few rhythm games (until guitar hero) that was ever 'mainstream' (and even that's very much stretching the definition; DDR was never that mainstream).

It's not going to happen, baring a literal miracle.

Post #3622 · Posted at 2017-03-18 07:04:09am 7.1 years ago

Offline rapidemboar
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"Blank for now."
Okay, so I re-read all the posts and tried to figure things out...

So I'm betting we'll probably get localizations of future DDR games if we continue on the same path as 2013 and onward. Since in Japan, DDR A is merely an update added to a DDR 2013 cabinet, I'd say it's safe that at the very least we get new updates for later releases unless they upgrade to an entirely new machine. Considering they didn't bother to romanize the Japanese titles, they might have plans for that. Mostly everything is in English anyway, so the only issues with localization would be running the whole eAmuse thing, but that's already set up.

Reading through the reddit post again, it almost seems to me that the reason D&B won't be localizing other BEMANI games isn't just because of their choice, but rather because Konami won't localizing them. Which is likely due to the niche market. I don't know if there's a niche market for rhythm games in general, but I do know that arcade games are pretty niche in the US in general. I feel like it's kinda a byproduct of us starting to isolate ourselves more and more, but that's a personal opinion I don't really want to rant about. I was confused because I didn't notice the topic of the post at first, but after reading it through multiple times it seems like Kevin would like to localize BEMANI games, but they don't have the power to because Konami will never localize them.

As for games that would probably localize well, I'd think Reflec Beat could be relatively popular. I hear it's relatively disliked within the BEMANI community, but from what I've noticed from taking my brother's iPad Pro around for Speech & Debate tournaments, people enjoy it as a multiplayer game and usually catch on relatively quickly (Except for those dang triangle notes). Whether they actually score well is another story, most people get a full combo but don't get enough points to pass the round. But people enjoy the multiplayer aspect, and I think playing the game on a air-hockey like table would be cool. (Probably won't happen since that would require a lot of reworking of a pre-existing game)

As a side note, how many people would flame me if I put "DDR" and "redemption game" in the same sentence? I mean, it is Konmai we're talking about here, so I know that realistically it wouldn't work. But I'm sure the right mathematical formulas would allow new players to noticeably win bigger ticket yields while top players draw attention through their yields, and yet they don't clear the entire prize rack after clearing a bunch of 18s. Ignoring the complex mathematics and how exactly we get it to work, would people hate the existence of a redemption aspect in a DDR game simply because of its very existence?

Please correct me if I'm confused about something, it's midnight and I'm tired.

Post #3623 · Posted at 2017-03-18 09:44:21am 7.1 years ago

Offline hollandaze
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Quote: rapidemboar
I'd think Reflec Beat could be relatively popular. I hear it's relatively disliked within the BEMANI community.

I struggle to believe that a game as fun as and with such awesome music as RB is disliked. Dead
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Post #3624 · Posted at 2017-03-18 12:10:43pm 7.1 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
Reflec is a fucking mess to play, regardless of the soundtrack.

Also, yes, Dave and Busters isn't going to be bringing anything over from Bemani from now on.
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #3625 · Posted at 2017-03-18 02:53:09pm 7.1 years ago

Offline AxelWasHere
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"No."

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Quote: omglonghair
I don't get this topic, what's the arguement?

No more Bemani games in the US.
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Post #3626 · Posted at 2017-03-18 03:28:24pm 7.1 years ago

Offline Michael1991
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Quote: AxelWasHere
Quote: omglonghair
I don't get this topic, what's the arguement?

No more Bemani games in the US.

WhatwhatWhat?!?! For real.

Post #3627 · Posted at 2017-03-18 03:36:42pm 7.1 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
The fact that anyone is surprised at this blows my mind on so many levels.
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #3628 · Posted at 2017-03-18 03:58:38pm 7.1 years ago

Offline Sigrev2
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"suffering from success"
you mean to tell me that a company with very little involvement in the us market will continue to have very little involvement in the us market?
needless to say, i am #shocked

Post #3629 · Posted at 2017-03-18 04:27:56pm 7.1 years ago

Offline Michael1991
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Quote: AnonyWolf
you mean to tell me that a company with very little involvement in the us market will continue to have very little involvement in the us market?
needless to say, i am #shocked

But unfortunately, yes. All of it.

Post #3630 · Posted at 2017-03-18 05:07:52pm 7.1 years ago

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"bootylicious "

Post #3631 · Posted at 2017-03-18 05:25:03pm 7.1 years ago

Offline tockytoes
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While it's a shame I probably won't see anything outside of Pump It Up at my D&B, I guess we'll have to rely on the growth and success of Round 1.

Post #3632 · Posted at 2017-03-18 06:59:24pm 7.1 years ago

Offline Michael1991
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Quote: tockytoes
While it's a shame I probably won't see anything outside of Pump It Up at my D&B, I guess we'll have to rely on the growth and success of Round 1.

Wow this is bad. Very bad indeed!

Post #3633 · Posted at 2017-03-18 07:01:12pm 7.1 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
Not really, you can still go to a Round 1...
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #3634 · Posted at 2017-03-18 07:04:57pm 7.1 years ago

Offline SomethingRandom
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Not to mention there are simulators, and you can import or play older releases. Some conventions also have such games you may wanna play as well. It's a shame that not all BEMANI games will be getting a US release, but you have to remember: it's konami, and no one might care. I do think Konami should take a risk at the very least.

Post #3635 · Posted at 2017-03-18 08:31:09pm 7.1 years ago

Offline rapidemboar
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Quote: tockytoes
While it's a shame I probably won't see anything outside of Pump It Up at my D&B, I guess we'll have to rely on the growth and success of Round 1.

Reviving the arcade scene in the US seems to be their goal here, and they seem to be doing at least an okay job at it. With it's growth, we should see some competitors rise, and demand to increase. But I don't think waiting is the only option. This might sound a bit sappy, but sharing our love of these games with other people and showing them the world of Bemani would help spark interest in the semi-general population, and potentially grab Konami's attention. How do we do that, exactly? Well, you gotta get creative. Hope is one thing. But speaking won't accomplish everything- You gotta do something crazy.

Post #3636 · Posted at 2017-03-18 08:32:21pm 7.1 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
[meme]Like publicly release simulation themes[/meme]
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #3637 · Posted at 2017-03-20 11:55:01pm 7.1 years ago

Offline VR0
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"ムーン ゴーシュス メヂィデーション"
Out of Focus D Heavy - EXPERT:

AC Score Tracker: DDR EXTREME // SN2 (JP)
My username in these games:
DDR(1st)-EXTREME: VRC
StepMania 3.9+ REDUX: VRC
DDR Supernova onwards / IIDX ID: VR0

Post #3638 · Posted at 2017-03-21 03:28:15am 7.1 years ago

Offline ohaiimian
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Last updated: 2017-03-21 03:33am
New song comments for the following are now available!

http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/ddr/ddra/p/images/music/jk300_come_to_life.jpg http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/ddr/ddra/p/images/music/jk300_emera.jpg
http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/ddr/ddra/p/images/music/jk300_far_east_nightbird.jpg http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/ddr/ddra/p/images/music/jk300_sterling_silver_u1.jpg

http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/ddr/ddra/p/music/info.html

Post #3639 · Posted at 2017-03-21 07:40:37am 7.1 years ago

Offline omglonghair
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Speaking of song comments,was reading the OTP entry on remywiki and man that song has such an interesting background.
What the hell does U1 smoke to come up with EGOISM 440?

Post #3640 · Posted at 2017-03-21 05:25:43pm 7.1 years ago

Offline wrsw
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"Sleep cancelled due to COVID-19."
https://remywiki.com/Over_The_%22Period%22#Song_Production_Information

Quote: TAG
Since X3's LOVE IS THE POWER was cleared up easily, this time I made the Difficult chart Level 15 so it would not be able to clear that easily, but this time it was a bit overkill...
Quote: TAG
but this time it was a bit overkill...
Quote: TAG
a bit overkill...
Quote: TAG
a bit

well okay then

Though in all seriousness, the background to that song really is something.
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