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Post #3201 · Posted at 2016-12-07 04:43:36pm 7.3 years ago

Offline PerroXX
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hyped for that Hopeful song
can't wait to hear it

Actually there's a preview here

Post #3202 · Posted at 2016-12-07 05:15:28pm 7.3 years ago

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SOTAG is a good alias and I hope it gets used more down the line.

This.
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Post #3203 · Posted at 2016-12-07 05:34:23pm 7.3 years ago

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"suffering from success"
I was told there was a new song and some revivals.
Needless to say, I'm not mad. Just disappointed.

Post #3204 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:11:41am 7.3 years ago

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"ムーン ゴーシュス メヂィデーション"
1 new + 1 UMU x BEMANI + 1 Xmas song!!! Very Happy
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Post #3205 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:19:32am 7.3 years ago

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Sota and TAG's styles work really well together.

Post #3206 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:30:08am 7.3 years ago

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Thank You Merry Christmas hasn't appeared on DDR yet in the US, or am I missing some information?

Post #3207 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:31:35am 7.3 years ago

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"suffering from success"
Quote: ohaiimian
Thank You Merry Christmas hasn't appeared on DDR yet in the US, or am I missing some information?
yeah, this is the song's US debut

Post #3208 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:55:15am 7.3 years ago

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https://twitter.com/echospherics/status/806671396851961856

Hopeful is a 13Heavy in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.

Post #3209 · Posted at 2016-12-08 02:01:05am 7.3 years ago

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"ムーン ゴーシュス メヂィデーション"
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https://twitter.com/echospherics/status/806671396851961856

Hopeful is a 13Heavy in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.
OBJECTION!!!
S - Heavy EXPERT only. It redirects me to ZEROWOLF tweet.
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Post #3210 · Posted at 2016-12-08 02:09:31am 7.3 years ago

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Last updated: 2016-12-08 02:09am
Hopeful S-Heavy


Pretty tame for a 13. It does have tougher rhythms and jumps before 16th clusters, etc. I sort of wonder why they elected to just use freeze arrows during those parts with a lot of rhythms though.
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Post #3211 · Posted at 2016-12-08 02:17:24am 7.3 years ago

Offline PerroXX
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Quote: PerroXX
https://twitter.com/echospherics/status/806671396851961856

Hopeful is a 13Heavy in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.
OBJECTION!!!
S - Heavy EXPERT only. It redirects me to ZEROWOLF tweet.

Uhh ... There's the double rating

Btw speaking about the song, yeah, is good ... Nothing spectacular but is a nice song to hear (idk, but with her latest appereances i starting to like Hiragii Rio as an exclusive DDR artist)

Post #3212 · Posted at 2016-12-08 02:58:10am 7.3 years ago

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Super easy for a 13.


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Post #3213 · Posted at 2016-12-08 04:15:59am 7.3 years ago

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Hopeful and Determination should both be 1 rating lower than they are.

Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.

Post #3214 · Posted at 2016-12-08 07:13:45am 7.3 years ago

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Thank You Merry Christmas hasn't appeared on DDR yet in the US, or am I missing some information?
It unlocked at 10AM JST for non-US machines. It does not unlock until 10AM PST for US cabinets... at least from what I can tell.

Note the time in the bottom-right. US has a separate timezone mention.

http://eacache.konaminet.jp/game/ddr/ddra/p/images/top/bnr/tymc_bnr.jpg

Post #3215 · Posted at 2016-12-08 11:39:51am 7.3 years ago

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Hopeful's expert chart looks like a 13 I could play...in other words, an easy 13 all the way Laughing Hard

Argh, I'm trying to stop myself from making Undertale references in regards to Determination returning to DDR...and I shall stop myself by saying this: OMG. YES. THANK YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS IS BACK, and for the first time overseas which is getting me SO HYPED!! Very Happy Luv VENUS <3
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Post #3216 · Posted at 2016-12-08 11:46:14am 7.3 years ago

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Quote: 01angel
Argh, I'm trying to stop myself from making Undertale references in regards to Determination returning to DDR...and I shall stop myself

Controlling your urge to make Undertale references fills you with Determination Puppy Face

Kidding aside, I really like the new "SOTAG" collab. Here's hoping that they do more songs with their team-up
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Post #3217 · Posted at 2016-12-08 05:25:50pm 7.3 years ago

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Quote: Storm_x8
Hopeful and Determination should both be 1 rating lower than they are.

Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.

I feel there's definitely been a way of prescribing levels in more recent iterations of the game (from my view, anyway); 12's usually have around 300+ steps, 13's around 300-400+, 14's 400--500+, 15's 500-600+, 16s, 600-700+, and so on, and I feel they're marked that way regardless of step pattern complexity. In my view, difficulty should be based more on how complex the patterns can get, rather than pure note count, because a 13 that's mostly 190 bpm 8th streams versus a 13 that's 140 bpm with complex 16th patterns shouldn't necessarily be on the same plane, even if the former has something like 100+ more notes than the latter.

So I feel Determination lives up to its difficulty on pad. It's easy to correlate total stepcounts with difficulty, but that doesn't mean songs like Possession challenge is a 16 only because there are 643 steps. Konami was likely basing it more on the nature of the song's stepchart itself, particularly in its speed and patterns. I've noticed Konami rated older songs this way, but since lot of the newer charts are more straightforward with more notes, I feel that this way of determining difficulty is lost.

Post #3218 · Posted at 2016-12-08 08:02:31pm 7.3 years ago

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Argh, I'm trying to stop myself from making Undertale references in regards to Determination returning to DDR...and I shall stop myself

Controlling your urge to make Undertale references fills you with Determination Puppy Face
You made the reference for me ;w;
Thanks, LOL
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Post #3219 · Posted at 2016-12-09 01:26:01am 7.3 years ago

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Quote: coolpeaches
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Hopeful and Determination should both be 1 rating lower than they are.

Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.

I feel there's definitely been a way of prescribing levels in more recent iterations of the game (from my view, anyway); 12's usually have around 300+ steps, 13's around 300-400+, 14's 400--500+, 15's 500-600+, 16s, 600-700+, and so on, and I feel they're marked that way regardless of step pattern complexity. In my view, difficulty should be based more on how complex the patterns can get, rather than pure note count, because a 13 that's mostly 190 bpm 8th streams versus a 13 that's 140 bpm with complex 16th patterns shouldn't necessarily be on the same plane, even if the former has something like 100+ more notes than the latter.

So I feel Determination lives up to its difficulty on pad. It's easy to correlate total stepcounts with difficulty, but that doesn't mean songs like Possession challenge is a 16 only because there are 643 steps. Konami was likely basing it more on the nature of the song's stepchart itself, particularly in its speed and patterns. I've noticed Konami rated older songs this way, but since lot of the newer charts are more straightforward with more notes, I feel that this way of determining difficulty is lost.

This whole note count thing has been a dead topic for a couple years now. We have multiple 12s and 13s now with 500+ notes, such as Marisa (insert rest of title here) Heavy which has over 500 notes and is a 12. Songs like that and VEGA have continued to show that ratings are given based on patterns, gimmicks, and overall skill requirement rather than step count or song length.

Post #3220 · Posted at 2016-12-09 06:21:43am 7.3 years ago

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Quote: coolpeaches
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Hopeful and Determination should both be 1 rating lower than they are.

Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.

In my view, difficulty should be based more on how complex the patterns can get, rather than pure note count

So I feel Determination lives up to its difficulty on pad.

I said in my post that Determination is easier than those other 14s in stamina/step count and patterning. The entire chart has what, like 1 crossover? I don't see any difficult patterns - it's mostly just fairly straightforward 8th streams. The other 14s I listed have many more crossovers and complicated patterns (and are much less relentless in the 8th streams they throw at you) that someone seeing the chart for the first time could easily mess up.
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