Post #3201 · Posted at 2016-12-07 04:43:36pm 7.3 years ago
Post #3202 · Posted at 2016-12-07 05:15:28pm 7.3 years ago
RGTM | |
---|---|
Moderator+ | |
7,195 Posts | |
Reg. 2007-07-19 | |
"BBCode Not Allowed" |
Quote: Silver Spirit
SOTAG is a good alias and I hope it gets used more down the line.
This.
Post #3203 · Posted at 2016-12-07 05:34:23pm 7.3 years ago
Sigrev2 | |
---|---|
Member+ | |
4,159 Posts | |
Reg. 2009-10-17 | |
"suffering from success" |
I was told there was a new song and some revivals.
Needless to say, I'm not mad. Just disappointed.
Needless to say, I'm not mad. Just disappointed.
Post #3204 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:11:41am 7.3 years ago
VR0 | |
---|---|
Member | |
969 Posts | |
Reg. 2012-03-20 | |
"ムーン ゴーシュス メヂィデーション" |
1 new + 1 UMU x BEMANI + 1 Xmas song!!!
Post #3205 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:19:32am 7.3 years ago
Pandemonium X | |
---|---|
Member | |
10,358 Posts | |
Reg. 2007-04-06 | |
Sota and TAG's styles work really well together.
Post #3206 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:30:08am 7.3 years ago
ohaiimian | |
---|---|
Member | |
1,026 Posts | |
Reg. 2012-07-02 | |
Thank You Merry Christmas hasn't appeared on DDR yet in the US, or am I missing some information?
Post #3207 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:31:35am 7.3 years ago
Sigrev2 | |
---|---|
Member+ | |
4,159 Posts | |
Reg. 2009-10-17 | |
"suffering from success" |
Quote: ohaiimian
Thank You Merry Christmas hasn't appeared on DDR yet in the US, or am I missing some information?
yeah, this is the song's US debutPost #3208 · Posted at 2016-12-08 01:55:15am 7.3 years ago
https://twitter.com/echospherics/status/806671396851961856
Hopeful is a 13 in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.
Hopeful is a 13 in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.
Post #3209 · Posted at 2016-12-08 02:01:05am 7.3 years ago
VR0 | |
---|---|
Member | |
969 Posts | |
Reg. 2012-03-20 | |
"ムーン ゴーシュス メヂィデーション" |
Quote: PerroXX
https://twitter.com/echospherics/status/806671396851961856
Hopeful is a 13 in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.
OBJECTION!!!Hopeful is a 13 in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.
S - EXPERT only. It redirects me to ZEROWOLF tweet.
Post #3210 · Posted at 2016-12-08 02:09:31am 7.3 years ago
NewbStepper | |
---|---|
Moderator+ | |
2,515 Posts | |
Reg. 2013-05-23 | |
"Crybabies unite~ ♡" |
Last updated: 2016-12-08 02:09am
Hopeful S-
Pretty tame for a 13. It does have tougher rhythms and jumps before 16th clusters, etc. I sort of wonder why they elected to just use freeze arrows during those parts with a lot of rhythms though.
Pretty tame for a 13. It does have tougher rhythms and jumps before 16th clusters, etc. I sort of wonder why they elected to just use freeze arrows during those parts with a lot of rhythms though.
Post #3211 · Posted at 2016-12-08 02:17:24am 7.3 years ago
PerroXX | |
---|---|
Member | |
621 Posts | |
Reg. 2015-06-02 | |
Quote: VR0
Quote: PerroXX
https://twitter.com/echospherics/status/806671396851961856
Hopeful is a 13 in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.
OBJECTION!!!Hopeful is a 13 in both, singles and doubles (Pretty cool jacket btw). Also Determination now is listed into the DDR A folder.
S - EXPERT only. It redirects me to ZEROWOLF tweet.
Uhh ... There's the double rating
Btw speaking about the song, yeah, is good ... Nothing spectacular but is a nice song to hear (idk, but with her latest appereances i starting to like Hiragii Rio as an exclusive DDR artist)
Post #3212 · Posted at 2016-12-08 02:58:10am 7.3 years ago
Dr.D | |
---|---|
Member | |
1,451 Posts | |
Reg. 2008-03-01 | |
Super easy for a 13.
Post #3213 · Posted at 2016-12-08 04:15:59am 7.3 years ago
Storm_x8 | |
---|---|
Member | |
144 Posts | |
Reg. 2015-06-08 | |
Hopeful and Determination should both be 1 rating lower than they are.
Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.
Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.
Post #3214 · Posted at 2016-12-08 07:13:45am 7.3 years ago
DigitalBasic | |
---|---|
Member | |
500 Posts | |
Reg. 2015-10-19 | |
"Pancakes!" |
Quote: ohaiimian
Thank You Merry Christmas hasn't appeared on DDR yet in the US, or am I missing some information?
It unlocked at 10AM JST for non-US machines. It does not unlock until 10AM PST for US cabinets... at least from what I can tell.Note the time in the bottom-right. US has a separate timezone mention.
Post #3215 · Posted at 2016-12-08 11:39:51am 7.3 years ago
01angel | |
---|---|
Member | |
2,755 Posts | |
Reg. 2015-11-27 | |
"Mostly just lurking." |
Hopeful's expert chart looks like a 13 I could play...in other words, an easy 13 all the way
Argh, I'm trying to stop myself from making Undertale references in regards to Determination returning to DDR...and I shall stop myself by saying this: OMG. YES. THANK YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS IS BACK, and for the first time overseas which is getting me SO HYPED!! Luv VENUS <3
Argh, I'm trying to stop myself from making Undertale references in regards to Determination returning to DDR...and I shall stop myself by saying this: OMG. YES. THANK YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS IS BACK, and for the first time overseas which is getting me SO HYPED!! Luv VENUS <3
Post #3216 · Posted at 2016-12-08 11:46:14am 7.3 years ago
Nicolas | |
---|---|
Member | |
1,511 Posts | |
Reg. 2009-10-25 | |
Quote: 01angel
Argh, I'm trying to stop myself from making Undertale references in regards to Determination returning to DDR...and I shall stop myself
Controlling your urge to make Undertale references fills you with Determination
Kidding aside, I really like the new "SOTAG" collab. Here's hoping that they do more songs with their team-up
Post #3217 · Posted at 2016-12-08 05:25:50pm 7.3 years ago
Quote: Storm_x8
Hopeful and Determination should both be 1 rating lower than they are.
Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.
Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.
I feel there's definitely been a way of prescribing levels in more recent iterations of the game (from my view, anyway); 12's usually have around 300+ steps, 13's around 300-400+, 14's 400--500+, 15's 500-600+, 16s, 600-700+, and so on, and I feel they're marked that way regardless of step pattern complexity. In my view, difficulty should be based more on how complex the patterns can get, rather than pure note count, because a 13 that's mostly 190 bpm 8th streams versus a 13 that's 140 bpm with complex 16th patterns shouldn't necessarily be on the same plane, even if the former has something like 100+ more notes than the latter.
So I feel Determination lives up to its difficulty on pad. It's easy to correlate total stepcounts with difficulty, but that doesn't mean songs like Possession challenge is a 16 only because there are 643 steps. Konami was likely basing it more on the nature of the song's stepchart itself, particularly in its speed and patterns. I've noticed Konami rated older songs this way, but since lot of the newer charts are more straightforward with more notes, I feel that this way of determining difficulty is lost.
Post #3218 · Posted at 2016-12-08 08:02:31pm 7.3 years ago
01angel | |
---|---|
Member | |
2,755 Posts | |
Reg. 2015-11-27 | |
"Mostly just lurking." |
Quote: Nicolas
Quote: 01angel
Argh, I'm trying to stop myself from making Undertale references in regards to Determination returning to DDR...and I shall stop myself
Controlling your urge to make Undertale references fills you with Determination
Thanks, LOL
Post #3219 · Posted at 2016-12-09 01:26:01am 7.3 years ago
Mr.Music | |
---|---|
Member | |
2,088 Posts | |
Reg. 2010-08-28 | |
Quote: coolpeaches
Quote: Storm_x8
Hopeful and Determination should both be 1 rating lower than they are.
Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.
Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.
I feel there's definitely been a way of prescribing levels in more recent iterations of the game (from my view, anyway); 12's usually have around 300+ steps, 13's around 300-400+, 14's 400--500+, 15's 500-600+, 16s, 600-700+, and so on, and I feel they're marked that way regardless of step pattern complexity. In my view, difficulty should be based more on how complex the patterns can get, rather than pure note count, because a 13 that's mostly 190 bpm 8th streams versus a 13 that's 140 bpm with complex 16th patterns shouldn't necessarily be on the same plane, even if the former has something like 100+ more notes than the latter.
So I feel Determination lives up to its difficulty on pad. It's easy to correlate total stepcounts with difficulty, but that doesn't mean songs like Possession challenge is a 16 only because there are 643 steps. Konami was likely basing it more on the nature of the song's stepchart itself, particularly in its speed and patterns. I've noticed Konami rated older songs this way, but since lot of the newer charts are more straightforward with more notes, I feel that this way of determining difficulty is lost.
This whole note count thing has been a dead topic for a couple years now. We have multiple 12s and 13s now with 500+ notes, such as Marisa (insert rest of title here) which has over 500 notes and is a 12. Songs like that and VEGA have continued to show that ratings are given based on patterns, gimmicks, and overall skill requirement rather than step count or song length.
Post #3220 · Posted at 2016-12-09 06:21:43am 7.3 years ago
Storm_x8 | |
---|---|
Member | |
144 Posts | |
Reg. 2015-06-08 | |
Quote: coolpeaches
Quote: Storm_x8
Hopeful and Determination should both be 1 rating lower than they are.
Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.
Don't know why they decided to rate Determination a 14 - every other 14 I can think of in that 220-260bpm range (Samurai Shogun, Houkago Stride, Nephilim Delta) is significantly harder in terms of both stamina/step count and patterning.
In my view, difficulty should be based more on how complex the patterns can get, rather than pure note count
So I feel Determination lives up to its difficulty on pad.
I said in my post that Determination is easier than those other 14s in stamina/step count and patterning. The entire chart has what, like 1 crossover? I don't see any difficult patterns - it's mostly just fairly straightforward 8th streams. The other 14s I listed have many more crossovers and complicated patterns (and are much less relentless in the 8th streams they throw at you) that someone seeing the chart for the first time could easily mess up.